Because the legal term for insurrection is not the constitutional term for insurrection. There's overlap in the venn diagram but it's not all inclusive. Also: be very careful what you ask for if you desire parity between those sources, lest you take several casualties in the form of other lines in the Constitution and its amendments.I was curious and looked up the many charges against the raging hoard from Jan 6th and it appears that no one was charged with insurrection for the January 6th riot. I wonder why?
I'm 100% all for legal action against the rioters that entered the capital building illegally and have stated so from day 1.
30 Months Since the Jan. 6 Attack on the Capitol
www.justice.gov
Criminal charges:
Approximately 350 defendants have been charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers or employees, including approximately 110 individuals who have been charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury to an officer.
- Approximately 140 police officers were assaulted Jan. 6 at the Capitol, including about 80 from the U.S. Capitol Police and about 60from the Metropolitan Police Department.
- Approximately 11 individuals have been arrested on a series of charges that relate to assaulting a member of the media, or destroying their equipment, on Jan. 6.
- Approximately 935 defendants have been charged with entering or remaining in a restricted federal building or grounds. Of those, 103 defendants have been charged with entering a restricted area with a dangerous or deadly weapon.
- Approximately 61 defendants have been charged with destruction of government property, and approximately 49 defendants have been charged with theft of government property.
- More than 310 defendants have been charged with corruptly obstructing, influencing, or impeding an official proceeding, or attempting to do so.
- Approximately 55 defendants have been charged with conspiracy, either: (a) conspiracy to obstruct a congressional proceeding, (b) conspiracy to obstruct law enforcement during a civil disorder, (c) conspiracy to injure an officer, or (d) some combination of the three.
kage69
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Can't wait to hear the new calvinball rules from SCOTUS over Traitor Trump somehow being exempt from the 14th Amendment.
womp womp
Just shocking. Oh and Ron Johnson's very nervous and completely unconvincing denials these last few years certainly seem to indicate what we all thought they did. The magats who betrayed the country and their oaths of office must answer for it. One of the many reasons I'll again be voting an almost entirely Democratic ballot in 2024, though not having our economy destroyed by another repug, while he shits on our allies, also factor in greatly.
Colorado and Maine have both passed the No Fucking Shit test, but that figures. When broken ass christofascist red states start doing it, then I'll be surprised.
womp womp
Just shocking. Oh and Ron Johnson's very nervous and completely unconvincing denials these last few years certainly seem to indicate what we all thought they did. The magats who betrayed the country and their oaths of office must answer for it. One of the many reasons I'll again be voting an almost entirely Democratic ballot in 2024, though not having our economy destroyed by another repug, while he shits on our allies, also factor in greatly.
Colorado and Maine have both passed the No Fucking Shit test, but that figures. When broken ass christofascist red states start doing it, then I'll be surprised.
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kage69
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I was curious and looked up the many charges against the raging hoard from Jan 6th and it appears that no one was charged with insurrection for the January 6th riot. I wonder why?
I'm 100% all for legal action against the rioters that entered the capital building illegally and have stated so from day 1.
30 Months Since the Jan. 6 Attack on the Capitol
Criminal charges:
Approximately 350 defendants have been charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers or employees, including approximately 110 individuals who have been charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury to an officer.
- Approximately 140 police officers were assaulted Jan. 6 at the Capitol, including about 80 from the U.S. Capitol Police and about 60from the Metropolitan Police Department.
- Approximately 11 individuals have been arrested on a series of charges that relate to assaulting a member of the media, or destroying their equipment, on Jan. 6.
- Approximately 935 defendants have been charged with entering or remaining in a restricted federal building or grounds. Of those, 103 defendants have been charged with entering a restricted area with a dangerous or deadly weapon.
- Approximately 61 defendants have been charged with destruction of government property, and approximately 49 defendants have been charged with theft of government property.
- More than 310 defendants have been charged with corruptly obstructing, influencing, or impeding an official proceeding, or attempting to do so.
- Approximately 55 defendants have been charged with conspiracy, either: (a) conspiracy to obstruct a congressional proceeding, (b) conspiracy to obstruct law enforcement during a civil disorder, (c) conspiracy to injure an officer, or (d) some combination of the three.
Weak. You're still trying to minimize what you're in denial about, trying to pass it off as baby steps.
Now get curious about "seditious conspiracy," maybe follow up with wondering why you still feel the need to carry water for traitors.
ivwshane
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I was curious and looked up the many charges against the raging hoard from Jan 6th and it appears that no one was charged with insurrection for the January 6th riot. I wonder why?
I'm 100% all for legal action against the rioters that entered the capital building illegally and have stated so from day 1.
30 Months Since the Jan. 6 Attack on the Capitol
Criminal charges:
Approximately 350 defendants have been charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers or employees, including approximately 110 individuals who have been charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury to an officer.
- Approximately 140 police officers were assaulted Jan. 6 at the Capitol, including about 80 from the U.S. Capitol Police and about 60from the Metropolitan Police Department.
- Approximately 11 individuals have been arrested on a series of charges that relate to assaulting a member of the media, or destroying their equipment, on Jan. 6.
- Approximately 935 defendants have been charged with entering or remaining in a restricted federal building or grounds. Of those, 103 defendants have been charged with entering a restricted area with a dangerous or deadly weapon.
- Approximately 61 defendants have been charged with destruction of government property, and approximately 49 defendants have been charged with theft of government property.
- More than 310 defendants have been charged with corruptly obstructing, influencing, or impeding an official proceeding, or attempting to do so.
- Approximately 55 defendants have been charged with conspiracy, either: (a) conspiracy to obstruct a congressional proceeding, (b) conspiracy to obstruct law enforcement during a civil disorder, (c) conspiracy to injure an officer, or (d) some combination of the three.
You really do live in a bubble.
Four Oath Keepers convicted of Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy
Four members of the Oath Keepers have been convicted of seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack in the second major trial involving far-right extremists accused of plotting to forcibly keep President Donald Trump in power.
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You seem sympathetic towards traitors.I was curious and looked up the many charges against the raging hoard from Jan 6th and it appears that no one was charged with insurrection for the January 6th riot. I wonder why?
I'm 100% all for legal action against the rioters that entered the capital building illegally and have stated so from day 1.
30 Months Since the Jan. 6 Attack on the Capitol
Criminal charges:
Approximately 350 defendants have been charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers or employees, including approximately 110 individuals who have been charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury to an officer.
- Approximately 140 police officers were assaulted Jan. 6 at the Capitol, including about 80 from the U.S. Capitol Police and about 60from the Metropolitan Police Department.
- Approximately 11 individuals have been arrested on a series of charges that relate to assaulting a member of the media, or destroying their equipment, on Jan. 6.
- Approximately 935 defendants have been charged with entering or remaining in a restricted federal building or grounds. Of those, 103 defendants have been charged with entering a restricted area with a dangerous or deadly weapon.
- Approximately 61 defendants have been charged with destruction of government property, and approximately 49 defendants have been charged with theft of government property.
- More than 310 defendants have been charged with corruptly obstructing, influencing, or impeding an official proceeding, or attempting to do so.
- Approximately 55 defendants have been charged with conspiracy, either: (a) conspiracy to obstruct a congressional proceeding, (b) conspiracy to obstruct law enforcement during a civil disorder, (c) conspiracy to injure an officer, or (d) some combination of the three.
Now let's get back to impeaching Joe Biden over Hunter.
woolfe9998
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I addressed this above in post #583. The author of that tweet is right to LOL. It's a losing argument. Was already rejected by the Maine SoS, because Trump has to actually be elected twice, not just lie and say he was. But it's funny as hell the way it uses Trump's filthy lie against him. Best losing argument ever. The irony is not lost.
This would work better as an interview question for Trump. "Mr. Trump, you say you were elected President in 2020, right? Yes. Well doesn't the 22nd Amendment say you can only be elected twice? So why are you running again?" Then watch the fat fuck squirm. What's he going to say? I lied about winning in 2020? LOL
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ch33zw1z
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You really do live in a bubble.
Four Oath Keepers convicted of Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy
Four members of the Oath Keepers have been convicted of seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack in the second major trial involving far-right extremists accused of plotting to forcibly keep President Donald Trump in power.
With all the info repeatedly provided here, that post from geek is just embarassing
iRONic
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I don't think you can be embarrassed if you don't have any dignity or self-respect. Posting history shows evidence of none of that.
He's hung up on 'if it's not from the Insur region of France it's not insurrection, just sparkling sedition'.You really do live in a bubble.
Four Oath Keepers convicted of Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy
Four members of the Oath Keepers have been convicted of seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack in the second major trial involving far-right extremists accused of plotting to forcibly keep President Donald Trump in power.
January 6th really was an attack on our Democracy.I was curious and looked up the many charges against the raging hoard from Jan 6th and it appears that no one was charged with insurrection for the January 6th riot. I wonder why?
I'm 100% all for legal action against the rioters that entered the capital building illegally and have stated so from day 1.
30 Months Since the Jan. 6 Attack on the Capitol
Criminal charges:
Approximately 350 defendants have been charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers or employees, including approximately 110 individuals who have been charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury to an officer.
- Approximately 140 police officers were assaulted Jan. 6 at the Capitol, including about 80 from the U.S. Capitol Police and about 60from the Metropolitan Police Department.
- Approximately 11 individuals have been arrested on a series of charges that relate to assaulting a member of the media, or destroying their equipment, on Jan. 6.
- Approximately 935 defendants have been charged with entering or remaining in a restricted federal building or grounds. Of those, 103 defendants have been charged with entering a restricted area with a dangerous or deadly weapon.
- Approximately 61 defendants have been charged with destruction of government property, and approximately 49 defendants have been charged with theft of government property.
- More than 310 defendants have been charged with corruptly obstructing, influencing, or impeding an official proceeding, or attempting to do so.
- Approximately 55 defendants have been charged with conspiracy, either: (a) conspiracy to obstruct a congressional proceeding, (b) conspiracy to obstruct law enforcement during a civil disorder, (c) conspiracy to injure an officer, or (d) some combination of the three.
On what basis should Texas do that. In the first place it is not against the law to support abortion. It is illegal in some conditions to get one in Texas. He did not get a illegal abortion there nor did he assist any woman physically to get one there. This would be like saying California should keep any who favor outlawing abortion as a legal option off the ballot there. What you are doing is assuming that you hold some divine morally correct position that should be honored in a secular law driven nation. Abortion rights have been returned to the states so that the representatives in those states can vote to outlaw it under the banner of states rights. This is the real murder, the bending of the will of the nation to satisfy a minority of arrogant fundamentalists like yourself. Who the hell are you to pronounce to others what God's will is.
It is only brainwashing that gives you those magic feelings you have any idea what The Good is. And your fundamentalism is so profound you will wind up trying to murder anybody who disagrees. You are a living exponent of the Spanish Inquisition. Your devotion to The Good is driven by a fear of damnation whereas other, secular humanists for example, do The Good without that fear. You fear that without your fear you will do evil and go to hell. So sad, you could actually learn to love the truth for itself and would have had you not been brought up by other fools like yourself.
All the wrath and righteous indignation you imagine God will smite you with is just a projection of your own, a repressed memory of what you have been through, things that a loving God would never do to you in my view. The one thing you may have right is that you were created in His image, but that didn't last long. Your anger at evil is that this divine gift was stolen from you.
kage69
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Meanwhile over on Truth Social.
More stochastic terror promotion from an absolute coward, not just a traitor. It's hard to quantify just how immense of a douche canoe this guy really is.
After what happened in Michigan, then with Pelosi's husband, plus the overall level of threats and harassment magats maintain towards election workers, school teachers, librarians, and then the bowling alley mass shooting... I think any riled up redhat that goes looking for trouble in Maine is going to run afoul of a twitchy security detail, stand a good chance of gettin lit up.
Step right up magats, who wants to be the next Ashlii Babitt, get used for fund raising so Trump can pay his legal fees? Bring your tarp.
Why do the liberals love to pick on @pcgeek11 ? Do you not see that we liberals are as judgmental as conservatives are? I think he is just as leery of liberal judgmentalism as we are of theirs. So both sides see judgmentalism as evil, but see it only in the other and not themselves. Isn't judgmentalism fundamentalism at its core? Do we not condemn others our of our own inner hurt. Are we not petulant children? Can we look at our similarities rather than our differences. Maybe worth a try from time to time.
I think they committed suicide. Puts a different emotional reaction to it all for me.
You can condemn individual behavior and deride those that participate in it without judgement. When the behavior is repeated for actual years despite serious efforts to educate the ignorant, and teach those who refuse to be taught, you can eventually fall back to public shaming in an attempt to at least get them to stop spreading bullshit. Or just ignore them and let it continue I guess.
Should I shame you for believing this? All you can do is save yourself from being like that if you can, or at least not adding your ego identification to such a belief. Perhaps if you succeed in rooting out attachment to ego you will set an example for others who may wonder that you have inner peace.
As far as I am concerned,, I am as fucked up as I am already because of too God Damned much shame. I keep forgetting to breathe.
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Biden doesn’t support abortion. He supports that decision to be made by a woman and her doctor, not Greg Abbott.
Kate Cox should never have been forced to acquiesce to Ken Paxton
Amused
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Next he'll claim there is no "murder" because the legal charges said "homicide."
and so is a SoS taking a person off the ballot who has not been charged Tried and convicted of any crime against the constitution. if you do not think that you are also a danger to our democracy. talk about a total lack of due process. you do know what that is do you?
So clearly you agree Jan 6th was an attack on the constitution and the country, how is that not the definition of "insurrection"? Jan 6th happened at Trump's direction.
LOL, Thomas has argued that "Due Process" is merely whatever process is defined. Sucks when that kind of logic bites you in the ass does it? Please clearly articulate what defined process was violated either in Colorado or in Maine.
I know you usually shit post and run so I guess we'll see if you have some courage this time.
zinfamous
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Where does it say that is required for the 14th article 3? Many of you conservatives love to add language and interpretations that are simply not there. The constitution is to be followed 100% of the time as it's the law of the land. It stats specifically that Trump can't hold any office. Cases are supposed to be brought up against the government when they make laws that violatethe constitution. So in all reality, the 14th amendment, article 3, is supposed to be automatic, and Trump should be automatically removed from EVERY ballot across the nation per the language of the constitution. It does not require the courts to be involved per the language, which means no conviction from a lower authority (the courts), is required as the constituion is the supreme authority. Then if you and your idiot buddies, believe that it's a violation of the constitution, you then can take it to court, and try to prove your arguement.. but not in the case of the 14th article 3, as the amendmen/article itself specifies states who has such authority, and it's not the court. It's not supposed to be as it is now, where we have to go to court, and argue to get the government to enact the constitution amendments and articles.
If the constitution was being followed, as it should, Trump would be removed from every ballot across the nation via the 14th amendment article 3, as stated by the constitution (he can't hold any office which means he can't be on the ballots, same as a 34 year old trying to run for President), which the courts CANNOT change, or make any ruling to put him back on it. PER the constitution, ONLY CONGRESS can remove that disability of the 14th article 3 amendment, by 2/3 vote, not the courts.
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Another Trumpy or AI bot? Wow, it looks like Chat-GPT might be making billions in 2024.
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