Colorado SC just disqualified Trump from the ballot using the Fourteenth Amendment Section 3 of the Constitution

[soulcougher73]

Still waiting for anyone to provide me with a logical, neutral legal principle where Robert E. Lee could be barred from office without a conviction but Trump can’t.

At least Lee took his loss like a real man and obeyed the laws of the country he tried to secede from/conquer. Unlike Trumpertaunrum.

 

[soulcougher73]

If he is obviously guilty, then why in the hell do they not put his orange ass in prison where he belongs?

Give me a reason.

yes let’s do that also.

 

[Moonbeam]

It's a common phrase that doesn't always imply violence. A football coach also tells the players to "fight like hell" what do you think he means by that?

It is quaint how everyone ignores everything else he said.

Is politics a form of ritualized violence like football is? The purpose of sports is to channel aggressive behavior into a safe outlet, sport which is underpinned and made safe by a constant reminder that sport can only be sport so long as the concept of good sportsmanship is maintained. The fact that it is a ritualized form of violence, however, tells you why sporting events often spill over into violence especially where the supporting culture for which it is an outlet for aggression, a country like England, for example, is wont, by systemic design, to produce massive amounts of it.

But the purpose of a democratic society is to insure that each person in that society is has an equal vote so as to reflect majority rule. But because, here too, the society produces competitive hatred of the other, political parties are stand in for teams, the rules of conduct and equality of voting, for the losing party, are seen as victory for evil and the product of sin. And the greater the level of aggression that society produces the greater the desire to drift intro authoritarian rule among losers becomes.

To the victor belongs the spoils, says every self entitled ego to itself, says every person who imagines him or her self to be the exponent of The Good. Competition breeds hatred and fear and the will for power and control. The greater the emotional damage done to children the less they will aspire to the obvious benefits of selfless ideals and the more they will think only of themselves.

 

[Zorba]

It's a common phrase that doesn't always imply violence. A football coach also tells the players to "fight like hell" what do you think he means by that?

It is quaint how everyone ignores everything else he said.

Fight like hell from a football coach means to go physically beat the other team. It is also a call to violence within the context of the game.

 

[balloonshark]

If he is obviously guilty, then why in the hell do they not put his orange ass in prison where he belongs?

Give me a reason.

Because your entire party (including you and greenman) absolutely refuses to hold their own accountable. Your "leaders" don't have to obey the same laws and standard that you, I and everyone else have to abide by when you all constantly wave off every one of their wrongdoings.

 

[eelw]

Because your entire party (including you and greenman) absolutely refuses to hold their own accountable. Your "leaders" don't have to obey the same laws and standard that you, I and everyone else have to abide by when you all constantly wave off every one of their wrongdoings.

But but but they won’t vote orange monkey next time!!!

 

[fskimospy]

Guys stop focusing on the Capitol attack. It was the least important part of the insurrection.

 

[Thump553]

It's a common phrase that doesn't always imply violence. A football coach also tells the players to "fight like hell" what do you think he means by that?

It is quaint how everyone ignores everything else he said.

Football coaches tell their team to fight like hell. In this case the equivalent would be Trump telling the GOP Congress critters to fight like hell for the legislative action he wanted.


Instead Trump used his words to implement his last tool to achieve his desired resut. He incited the crowd watching to march on the Capitol and fight like hell.

Also, why did Trump object so strongly to barring armed audience members from the Jan 6th rally-a practice that is decades old?He knew they were going to march on the Capitol and he expressly stated he knew if any of them were armed they wouldn't be a threat-TO HIM.

A rather preposterous and disengeous position you take to support your continual claims that Trump can do no wrong ever-no matter what the FACTS plainly show.

 

[kage69]

It's a common phrase that doesn't always imply violence. A football coach also tells the players to "fight like hell" what do you think he means by that?

It is quaint how everyone ignores everything else he said.

Fun fact, to be analogous to the example provided to you many times, that football coach would be telling players to fight like hell after the game has already been lost.

Quit fucking lying to yourself, bloody hell it's beyond sad!

Or, would you like to provide a list of all the coaches you know of who exhort their team to "fight like hell" and resort to violence in order to dispute the final score of a game?

Trump isn't in deep shit for what he said, he's in deep shit for what HE DID.

Have some self respect FFS!

 

[Moonbeam]

Sportsmanship is all about losing gracefully.

 

[kage69]

Agreed. It's a pity many on the right didn't take Trump's behavior on the golf course as a prescient forecast of things to come. They played with him after all, even if they ignored his banking and business track record, all the partying with Epstein and others. They had to deal with his cheating on the greens. Outdoors is where it's at apparently. Allows people the choice of standing up wind you know *taps nose* Cleanliness next to godliness, no? Oh if only there were some code of ethics to guide people in times like those.

Oy vey.

Anyway, I'd much rather this were just against a greedy dirtbag instead of a Russian asset. It's a shame that Russian intel binder was likely destroyed, will greatly impede bringing Russian spies and collaborators to justice obviously. Reminds me of the last time this happened, when treasonous right wingers worked with Hitler's Bunde and Truman torched the list of people the Germans confirmed they were working with. May we not rhyme with history.

I don't just want Biden to crush this asshole for a second time. I want all of these Team Treason assholes to rot in ADX Florence, Trump right along with them.

 

[brycejones]

I want all of these Team Treason assholes to rot in ADX Florence, Trump right along with them.

Let's just build a wall around Idaho and put them all there.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Fun fact, to be analogous to the example provided to you many times, that football coach would be telling players to fight like hell after the game has already been lost.

Quit fucking lying to yourself, bloody hell it's beyond sad!

Or, would you like to provide a list of all the coaches you know of who exhort their team to "fight like hell" and resort to violence in order to dispute the final score of a game?

Trump isn't in deep shit for what he said, he's in deep shit for what HE DID.

Have some self respect FFS!

If we're to torture the example further, it'd be closer to telling all the fans to fight like hell after the refs called the game, then feigning ignorance after the ensuing riot.

 

[outriding]

It's a common phrase that doesn't always imply violence. A football coach also tells the players to "fight like hell" what do you think he means by that?

It is quaint how everyone ignores everything else he said.

What peaceful, and legal actions that were available to overturn the results at that time?

I doubt u will respond. But my point is if you are going to make that statement about fighting like hell you should be able to back it up with an appropriate action

 

[balloonshark]

Criminals know what they can say and do so they won't get into trouble. Poor people learn these things when talking with their lawyers and inmates while in prison.. The wealthy and powerful learn this from legal dealings and from their lawyers advice. Dump is the same guy who had a lawyer just to cover up his affairs and other fuck ups. These lawyers bullied and intimidated on behalf of Dump. On jan. 6th I'll guarantee he was coached on what he could say while still getting his point across. He was the match that lit the powder keg that he spent a year cultivating.

 

[Viper1j]

Lol... You guys trying to explain logic to GQP idiots with the intelligence of a 4 year old... While it's a good laugh, it must be exhausting to engage with these dimwits.

WEll, you know what they say..

 

[Zorba]

Let's just build a wall around Idaho and put them all there.

Don't give them the pretty places they can have the Dakotas.

 

[Zorba]

Whelp, Michigan supreme court ruled the other way. I think mostly because they say the state law doesn't allow them to determine eligibility for primaries. But the judge also said this was a political decision not a legal one. Why would a constitutional law question be a political question?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/27/politics/michigan-supreme-court-rejects-insurrectionist-ban-case-and-keeps-trump-on-2024-primary-ballot/index.html

 

[soundforbjt]

Whelp, Michigan supreme court ruled the other way. I think mostly because they say the state law doesn't allow them to determine eligibility for primaries. But the judge also said this was a political decision not a legal one. Why would a constitutional law question be a political question?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/27/politics/michigan-supreme-court-rejects-insurrectionist-ban-case-and-keeps-trump-on-2024-primary-ballot/index.html

Because they’re scared, there’s no other justification. The Dems had a 1 vote majority on the court.

 

[fskimospy]

Whelp, Michigan supreme court ruled the other way. I think mostly because they say the state law doesn't allow them to determine eligibility for primaries. But the judge also said this was a political decision not a legal one. Why would a constitutional law question be a political question?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/27/politics/michigan-supreme-court-rejects-insurrectionist-ban-case-and-keeps-trump-on-2024-primary-ballot/index.html

Michigan doesn’t have a statute to remove Trump from the primary ballot while CO does.

 

[WelshBloke]

It's a common phrase that doesn't always imply violence. A football coach also tells the players to "fight like hell" what do you think he means by that?

It is quaint how everyone ignores everything else he said.

I mean if you want to use a sporting analogy this is more like a coach telling his teams supporters (who have a history of rioting) to go fight like hell after his team lost due to some refereeing decisions.

 

[soundforbjt]

I mean if you want to use a sporting analogy this is more like a coach telling his teams supporters (who have a history of rioting) to go fight like hell after his team lost due to some perfect indisputable refereeing decisions.

Ftfy.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Because they’re scared, there’s no other justification. The Dems had a 1 vote majority on the court.

Because they’re pussies. Our legal system and politicians are not prepared to deal with this.

Michigan doesn’t have a statute to remove Trump from the primary ballot while CO does.

Fair enough.

 

[soundforbjt]

Michigan doesn’t have a statute to remove Trump from the primary ballot while CO does.

Then why did they even try?

 

[fskimospy]

Then why did they even try?

They seemed to think (and I agree with them) that a statute should not be necessary any more than a state needs a statute to keep people under 35 off the ballot. Trump engaged in insurrection, therefore he is ineligible as per the Constitution. Michigan supreme court did say they could come back and argue for him to be kept off the GE ballot though, same as others have said.