Colorado Governor signs Gun COntrol Bill; Magpul announces they are moving.

[jackstar7]

John Woo style! Pew pew pew!

 

[jpeyton]

John Woo style! Pew pew pew!

You got it kiddo.

 

[Unheard]

Universal background checks is a code word for national gun registry.

 

[corwin]

John Woo style! Pew pew pew!

There goes that bear trap of a mind again

 

[nehalem256]

Where is the magazine cover /poster with all of the children that died in drownings last year? That were killed in drunk driving incidents? How about the faces of the daily killings in NY, Chicago and DC? This is sad to think they're trying to use the faces of theses kids to further their agenda.

Or what about the children who die because they are raised by single parents?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2290194&highlight=

Oh wait, when society tries to do something about that it ends in an apology

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2013/03/21/3720564.htm

 

[jackstar7]

There goes that bear trap of a mind again

Another zinger! Are you in improvisational comedy? Because, sir, you have roasted me with novelty and crackling wit at least thrice now and I must know how it is you do it.

 

[corwin]

Another zinger! Are you in improvisational comedy? Because, sir, you have roasted me with novelty and crackling wit at least thrice now and I must know how it is you do it.

What can I say, I'm a joke:awe:

Uh, maybe I mean joker:hmm:

 

[HumblePie]

I find the standing on the dead bodies of children and using their deaths as a way to push through a private agenda disgusting. People have no sense of morality at all when they do this.

Want to make a change in laws? Do so through logic, facts, and statistical data. Plastering the faces of dead kids to evoke emotional knee jerk reactions is almost as disturbing a behavior to me as the idiot that killed those kids. Both are using dead children for their own private agenda.

 

[jackstar7]

I find the standing on the dead bodies of children and using their deaths as a way to push through a private agenda disgusting. People have no sense of morality at all when they do this.

Want to make a change in laws? Do so through logic, facts, and statistical data. Plastering the faces of dead kids to evoke emotional knee jerk reactions is almost as disturbing a behavior to me as the idiot that killed those kids. Both are using dead children for their own private agenda.

A lot of this confuses me. What's private about their agenda? Isn't it completely out in the open? It might be misguided, but I don't see how it is private or otherwise hidden from plain view.

I mean if I hated guns and then saw guns used to wipe out a bunch of kids, I think it'd be pretty logical to be frustrated. It's not like Newtown converted people to an anti-gun position they didn't already hold, just as it didn't do anything but bolster pro-gun folks in preparation for their vocal defense of their gun rights.

While they may be going about it in a wrong-headed way, the goal does seem to be less dead kids by gun violence, so I'm not sure how you can logically (since emotion is your enemy) make that comparison.

It's not like facts are hindering the pro-gun movement in any way (even facts that run counter to their beliefs). And it's certainly not like the pro-gun advocates don't use emotional manipulation to make their points as well.

 

[corwin]

A lot of this confuses me. What's private about their agenda? Isn't it completely out in the open? It might be misguided, but I don't see how it is private or otherwise hidden from plain view.

I mean if I hated guns and then saw guns used to wipe out a bunch of kids, I think it'd be pretty logical to be frustrated. It's not like Newtown converted people to an anti-gun position they didn't already hold, just as it didn't do anything but bolster pro-gun folks in preparation for their vocal defense of their gun rights.

While they may be going about it in a wrong-headed way, the goal does seem to be less dead kids by gun violence, so I'm not sure how you can logically (since emotion is your enemy) make that comparison.

It's not like facts are hindering the pro-gun movement in any way (even facts that run counter to their beliefs). And it's certainly not like the pro-gun advocates don't use emotional manipulation to make their points as well.

Actually you're wrong, their agenda is to ban guns completely using this as a stepping stone, now you might want to say a side effect of that could be less dead kids, which is misguided, but that is not their true goal. They talk about it in private and on the side but they vocally advocate for these new laws on the bodies of dead kids to slowly erode away the rights of others.

 

[jackstar7]

Actually you're wrong, their agenda is to ban guns completely using this as a stepping stone, now you might want to say a side effect of that could be less dead kids, which is misguided, but that is not their true goal. They talk about it in private and on the side but they vocally advocate for these new laws on the bodies of dead kids to slowly erode away the rights of others.

Yeah, I can see how assuming the worst and generalizing would go hand in hand to make your position unassailable.

 

[HumblePie]

Because Feinswine and her ilk have let it slip before that their whole agenda is to completely ban and confiscate guns. That is their private agenda and to that end they will use whatever methods, no matter his despicable, to obtain that goal or as close as they can come.

They'll lie publicly through the media that they "respect" gun rights and the 2nd amendment. Respect so far as spitting on it goes that is. Most of these anti-gun politicians have 1 goal and 1 goal only. To completely remove all firearms from all civilians.

 

[desura]

wtf?

 

[corwin]

They'll lie publicly through the media that they "respect" gun rights and the 2nd amendment. Respect so far as spitting on it goes that is. Most of these anti-gun politicians have 1 goal and 1 goal only. To completely remove all firearms from all civilians.

Oh they respect THEIR 2nd amendment rights, just not us serfs...and I will have to agree that this applies to MOST but not ALL anti-gun politicians, there are a few that are genuinely just interested in reducing deaths and are deluded into thinking these will help by the other morons, but those are a slim minority

 

[BoberFett]

wtf?

She's one of the Colorado legislators pushing for this law, and she has a lengthy criminal record.

 

[Darwin333]

pot = good
guns = bad.

liberal mind.

Guns (a creation of man) = good

Pot (a creation of God) = bad

"Conservative Christian" mind.

My mind = blown

 

[Darwin333]

How about this: unless someone goes through a transfer of ownership process, then you just make the last known owner responsible for whatever happens with the weapon.

Sorry, lost all mine in a very tragic boating accident.

 

[Darwin333]

Man I wish Republicans had the same passion for upholding other amendments like they do the 2nd.

You and I both my friend, you and I both...

 

[Darwin333]

They do.

They most certainly do not. This is not my guess or my opinion it is fact.

Whats worse is it seems like the rights that one side respect the other side try to erode and vice versa so we get boned in one way or another regardless of which side is in power.

 

[Darwin333]

Grow a pair of... guns?

Hopefully not, I have been in at least one situation in which unarmed people proved to be a very valuable asset towards my own safety. It would be nice if yall advertised your unarmedness a bit more though, thanks in advance.

 

[Cerb]

My mind = blown

Power over serfs = good

Freedom of serfs = bad

The "Power-monger" mind.

 

[michal1980]

Guns (a creation of man) = good

Pot (a creation of God) = bad

"Conservative Christian" mind.

My mind = blown

Weed these days is nothing short of man made.

Futhermore. IMHO weed should be legal.

PS

Guns = 2nd amendment.

Weed currently lacks such overt protections.



Still waiting for those anti voter id bills/poll taxs, to defend their stance on restricting this right.

 

[Darwin333]

I mean if I hated guns and then saw guns used to wipe out a bunch of kids, I think it'd be pretty logical to be frustrated. It's not like Newtown converted people to an anti-gun position they didn't already hold, just as it didn't do anything but bolster pro-gun folks in preparation for their vocal defense of their gun rights.

That is exactly his point. The anti-gun people were already that way and now they are using the faces of dead children to further their agenda, which as you stated was their agenda before said children were killed.

 

[Darwin333]

Weed these days is nothing short of man made.

Futhermore. IMHO weed should be legal.

PS

Guns = 2nd amendment.

Weed currently lacks such overt protections.



Still waiting for those anti voter id bills/poll taxs, to defend their stance on restricting this right.

Lol, I would wager quite a bit that weed has been "altered" by man less than corn or bananas and you completely and purposely dodged my point.

And last I checked Christians didn't require such overt protections for a fuckton of other things that they have tried to have legislated due solely to their god. Even the fruit of a plant expressly forbidden in the very beginning of the bible is A OK to indulge in today but oh the noes don't let em smoke da reefer (but we will give you some wine if you come chill with us)....

 

[davmat787]

Lol, I would wager quite a bit that weed has been "altered" by man less than corn or bananas and you completely and purposely dodged my point.

You might be surprised, for example contrast the naturally occurring levels of ... wait, how many internet bucks are we talking here for this wager, and how would we determine the winner? How much edible fruit there is on a wild banana vs. that of a human altered one and THC levels for the other?