Colorado burning up!! two new fires by me in Boulder.

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l0cke

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My apartment in the Springs for school is really close to the evac area, hopefully it is still there in August :(
 
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Hoober

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l0cke said:
My apartment in the Springs for school is really close to the evac area, hopefully it is still there in August :(
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You're good if it's east of I-25.

You're also good if it's not in Mountain Shadows or Peregrine, and most of Rockrimmon.
 
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TheSlamma said:
Yet it's all the rich republicans building their houses right in the middle of everything so nothing can be control burned.. I remember going up 285 in the 80's and 90's and you were well into the mountains by the time you hit fairplay, now it's like a 40 mile long concrete mountain "town". So they don't want the control burs either.

the pine beetle destroyed this place and no one wants to either control burn it whether they are left or right.. no one has the money to remove all the dead trees and replant beetle resistant evergreens.. this is another example of not spending the money up front and then instead spending 8X the amount in the disaster event.
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It wouldn't matter if its a 40 mile long mountain town, you couldn't burn that section of 285 for one specific reason, wind. That stretch of land is undoubtedly the consistently windiest section of Colorado (that people live in). Every time I drive on a gusty day of 20+, Fairplay is blowing upwards of 50+. The winds just straight line off the mountains and if there is a fire in that area there would be no way to control it until there was zero wind or until it reached 285.

I do think we need to front more money towards taking out the beetle kill, but until we allow certain restraints to be lifted off of National Forest land like allowing foresters to use mechanical devices i.e. chainsaws to remove and destroy beetle kill, there will be no such luck in proceeding to rid ourselves of this infestation.

On topic, I hope that the rain we were getting today hits some of the affected areas. It wasn't a lot of rain, but any helps. Just waiting for the monsoon to hit!
 
Nintendesert

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It's the beetles man. All the trees are dead!! We need tons of controlled burning and logging to fix a very bad situation. This is going to be going on like this for years until new growth trees come in and all this deadwood gets removed.
 
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natto fire

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Zedtom said:
Regional disasters are big news to local residents but are of passing interest to people far away. When the media reports on a story like a wildfire at the national level, the viewers go "wow", and lose interest quickly.

The only thing that seemed remarkable to me was the fact that fire fighting air force planes sat idle on the runway ten miles from the Colorado Springs fire until someone at the Pentagon was informed that the Air Force Academy might be threatened.
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Yep. I was in New Mexico last year during the largest fires in over 100 years. The only time anyone seemed to care nationally was when the fires were threatening Los Alamos Labs, and that passed very quick.

It is actually a natural cycle after all, just because someone plops their house down in the middle of a forest should they get to choose to be a part of that cycle?
 
IronWing

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EagleKeeper said:
When was the last controlled burn?

National Forest Service is prevented from doing them.
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I don't know about Frontrangia but here in Arizona there are controlled burns underway throughout most of the year. The effectiveness of greenies in affecting forest/land policies is highly overstated.
 
HybridSquirrel

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I remember seeing a picture from the air force academy...it was pretty damn close but the cadets were still there.
 
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one of my friends has family down in springs, they lost their home. pretty sad stuff. if we get up in the mountains and look south, all we see is smoke. its crazy.
 
Perknose

Perknose

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EagleKeeper said:
Remember. Tree huggers are against controlled burns :(
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Not true.

Let’s set the record straight: The Sierra Club and other environmental groups have for years advocated protecting old growth and other large, fire-resistant trees while allowing low-intensity fires to burn, supplementing them when necessary with intentional, controlled burns. We support thinning of small trees, and we endorse the National Fire Plan, a federal/state effort that funds controlled burns and encourages the removal of brush and other fire hazards near communities and homes. We realize that it won’t be easy to return natural fire patterns to the West. "Putting fire back into the landscape is not the simple reverse of taking it out," writes Pyne.
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Here is the view from about 20 miles east of Colorado Springs (Tuesday afternoon).

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Gooberlx2

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Hoober said:
At least 346 homes destroyed in Colorado Springs.
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Wow, more than High Park fire, which was crowned more destructive than 2010's Fourmile Canyon Fire. So we've got a new #1 and #2 burning at the same time.
 
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