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Lager

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At least you'll have a degree in Cornell, which is quite impressive. Help you pick up girls.
 

TheVrolok

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Your parents are giving you 20k a year and you just don't study and sleep through classes? It seems like they have a reason to be angry. I had to choose Penn State's Honors program over the University of Pennsylvania because I'm paying my entire tuition. Though I have become more appreciative of this situation. Heh, not to mention 40k/year for undergrad rubs me the wrong way, that's asinine.
 

gotsmack

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Originally posted by: Reon
i can't transfer any where with grades like these. but i do want to go to stern for graduate school. which is why i need a good gpa.

Just apply to NYU and Columbia for transfer for next semester. Just say you went on vacation for a year. And after they take you say "By vacation I ment I went to Cornell. Please give me credit for these courses."
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: jaydee
Originally posted by: freegeeks
maybe this is a thread hijack but can someone explain a bit how the US college system works??

I read about GPA and other stuff and I have absolutely no idea what you guys are talking about
like the dude who started this thread is saying that his grades are not very good but he's starting his second year. How can you start the next year when your grades suck??:confused:


and wtf 40k a year?????? :Q

you all must have uberrich parents, higher education seems to be uberexpensive in the US or am I dead wrong??
are you guys all in debt when you finish college????

thx



Most college students will graduate with debt. Hopefully I won't with my co-op's. How much is college elsewhere?

you won't believe it but where I live it's 500-700 euro for a year of college. That's without housing and your textbooks.
+housing is 120 euro to 300 euro a month
+textbooks (depends on what you do in college) - 500-600 euro ??

do the counting and you will see that at most the total cost for a year at a university is around 6000-8000 euro (classes + housing + textbooks).
a lot of students also qualify for financial support from the govt. (ecg I received 3000 euro a year).

I hope you guys make a lot of money when you graduate.

That 40k a year is for the more prestigious private universities (it's also an estimate for tuition, cost of living, books, etc.). He goes to Cornell. He probably still gets some assistance from the university though unless his family is considered rich enough to afford it. A public university would not cost $40k. Some states actually have free tuition for in-state students. Even if the state doesn't have free tuition, it's not nearly as expensive as $40k :)
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Reon
Originally posted by: boyRacer
2.94 is recoverable... you might be in deep sh!t now... but trust me... people have been in deeper sh!t... and they pulled it off. I'm in the middle of doing that right now. :)

really? wow, how are you doing. i sort of need my gpa to be 3.5+ by the time i graduate. and thanks for understanding.

You're barely below a 3.0! If you're thinking about going to grad school, then you need to show an upward trend in your gpa. You go to Cornell, that already helps you a lot. A lot of grad schools only look at the last 60 hours, too.
 

cain

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yeah, i get like 8k in grant, which isnt a lot at all. and 4k for a research scholarship which i have done any research in. and thats about it. some comes in subsized loans and work study. and work study at cornell blows. they pay you sh!t for the school jobs, like 5.65 an hour. so you can never really work up to the work study amount.

i cant really transfer to columbia because it will just be wasted money and effort. besides, i already have like 51 credits at cornell including the 20 i got in HS. i am almost half way through. I just have to get past my parents and everything will be all good.
 

gotsmack

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I believbe that at most undergrads u can transfer up to 64 credits. There is always U Mich and NYU.
 

BruinEd03

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Originally posted by: Reon
yeah, it is my fault to go to cornell. i don't know, i was gonna apply early decision to columbia. but my dad asked me to consider cornell, and the next thing i know, the application is already sent.

the end of the first semester i got A-, A-, B, and C-. C- is in physics. since the school doesnt send out grades for the fall semester, i told them i got a B- instead of C- in physics. and the spring semester, my grades are A-, B, B-, C, B. they do send out grades, but I got it first. So i ended up sending a fake one to my parents changing the C to a B-. and consequently increasing my gpa from 2.93 to 3.01xx. Now I think i am in deep sh!t because they are gonna go ask the bursar for my grades when I return to school. I am doomed

They can't ask the bursar for your grades. It's part of the privacy thing. Only you can request the grades...even if your parents pay for everything. :)

-Ed
 

BruinEd03

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: jaydee
Originally posted by: freegeeks
maybe this is a thread hijack but can someone explain a bit how the US college system works??

I read about GPA and other stuff and I have absolutely no idea what you guys are talking about
like the dude who started this thread is saying that his grades are not very good but he's starting his second year. How can you start the next year when your grades suck??:confused:


and wtf 40k a year?????? :Q

you all must have uberrich parents, higher education seems to be uberexpensive in the US or am I dead wrong??
are you guys all in debt when you finish college????

thx



Most college students will graduate with debt. Hopefully I won't with my co-op's. How much is college elsewhere?

you won't believe it but where I live it's 500-700 euro for a year of college. That's without housing and your textbooks.
+housing is 120 euro to 300 euro a month
+textbooks (depends on what you do in college) - 500-600 euro ??

do the counting and you will see that at most the total cost for a year at a university is around 6000-8000 euro (classes + housing + textbooks).
a lot of students also qualify for financial support from the govt. (ecg I received 3000 euro a year).

I hope you guys make a lot of money when you graduate.

That 40k a year is for the more prestigious private universities (it's also an estimate for tuition, cost of living, books, etc.). He goes to Cornell. He probably still gets some assistance from the university though unless his family is considered rich enough to afford it. A public university would not cost $40k. Some states actually have free tuition for in-state students. Even if the state doesn't have free tuition, it's not nearly as expensive as $40k :)

Are you kidding? Any private University is 40k a year. In any case I went the cheap route and got a quality education at a public university :)

-Ed

 

BruinEd03

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Originally posted by: gotsmack
I believbe that at most undergrads u can transfer up to 64 credits. There is always U Mich and NYU.

With a 2.94 GPA it's very hard to transfer.

-Ed
 

cain

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i know there is the privacy thing, but what can i do. if i flat out refused, they would know something sketch went on.
 

gotsmack

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Originally posted by: BruinEd03
Originally posted by: gotsmack
I believbe that at most undergrads u can transfer up to 64 credits. There is always U Mich and NYU.

With a 2.94 GPA it's very hard to transfer.

-Ed

apply for next semester and say that you were on vacation for a year. Then after they take you say that you were a transfer in from Cornell. They won't know. The credits will count same as AP credits.
 

jaydee

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you won't believe it but where I live it's 500-700 euro for a year of college. That's without housing and your textbooks.
+housing is 120 euro to 300 euro a month
+textbooks (depends on what you do in college) - 500-600 euro ??

do the counting and you will see that at most the total cost for a year at a university is around 6000-8000 euro (classes + housing + textbooks).
a lot of students also qualify for financial support from the govt. (ecg I received 3000 euro a year).

I hope you guys make a lot of money when you graduate.

Actually, that isn't a big difference from public schools. I think Florida has some sort of program where with a 90 average, and 1200 SAT, you'd get free tuition (something along those lines anyway). NY state schools just went up to around 13K with room/board. Here in Michigan I think tuition is $3-4k a year.

At the private school I'm going to now, it's costing me about $17k a year (after my grants and scholarships) but with the cooperative education program, most of that is going to be paid off during my work term. I have a friend here that's a freshman that is going to make $15k for his first year of co-op ($15k for 6 months of work, you do math). Wages usually go up about a buck an hour for every year you advance. And I consider the education I'm recieving here as pretty top of the line short of the Ivy league (where engineering really isn't their specialty anyway for the most part).


 

Lager

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While we are on the subject of college, where can I get into?

My stats.

3.3 gpa
1230 sat I

sat II scores
480
550
600

No extracurricular

Prefer to go to college in CA.
 

cain

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my stats:
93 avg
1460 sat1
sat2s
740
720
700
740
some extracurricular.
goes to cornell.
but it doesnt matter which school you choose. it's all up to you. in college, you will realize that no matter how good your sat's were, they mean nothing once you get in. so it's all up to you to learn and do well. teachers won't give a sh!t about you.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: BruinEd03
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: jaydee
Originally posted by: freegeeks
maybe this is a thread hijack but can someone explain a bit how the US college system works??

I read about GPA and other stuff and I have absolutely no idea what you guys are talking about
like the dude who started this thread is saying that his grades are not very good but he's starting his second year. How can you start the next year when your grades suck??:confused:


and wtf 40k a year?????? :Q

you all must have uberrich parents, higher education seems to be uberexpensive in the US or am I dead wrong??
are you guys all in debt when you finish college????

thx



Most college students will graduate with debt. Hopefully I won't with my co-op's. How much is college elsewhere?

you won't believe it but where I live it's 500-700 euro for a year of college. That's without housing and your textbooks.
+housing is 120 euro to 300 euro a month
+textbooks (depends on what you do in college) - 500-600 euro ??

do the counting and you will see that at most the total cost for a year at a university is around 6000-8000 euro (classes + housing + textbooks).
a lot of students also qualify for financial support from the govt. (ecg I received 3000 euro a year).

I hope you guys make a lot of money when you graduate.

That 40k a year is for the more prestigious private universities (it's also an estimate for tuition, cost of living, books, etc.). He goes to Cornell. He probably still gets some assistance from the university though unless his family is considered rich enough to afford it. A public university would not cost $40k. Some states actually have free tuition for in-state students. Even if the state doesn't have free tuition, it's not nearly as expensive as $40k :)

Are you kidding? Any private University is 40k a year. In any case I went the cheap route and got a quality education at a public university :)

-Ed

I know of a lot that don't cost 40k :)

You're from CA, you guys have Berkeley and UCLA which are good public universities and your other UCs are good to decent. Someone from Alabama doesn't have much of a choice in state public schools! I guess there's a lower cost of living so we somehow end up saving for private schools or out of state schools :)
 

lowtech1

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Originally posted by: jaydee
Originally posted by: lowtech
Originally posted by: damiano
Originally posted by: pyonir
College was the time of my life. Wish i could go back and do it all over again.

yep

believe me dude
get of ATOT and go gt laid

college is great

this is why you pay all that money: "drunk horny girls"

hehe
You can get a lot of puntang (whore) in a year for 40k. And, not to mention the wine & dine that is on top of things that come with head ache.

IMHO, school is over rated because I could buy a house or start a business, if the bachelor is 160k & master is around 320k base upon the above post ++ books.

As for me, I'm currently weighting the option of putting 45k ++ time for my master vs. putting it in to a house.

Reon - The other option that you have is drop out & move out to find your own way.

Dude, I don't know anyone that actually pays full tuition. Most schools have a financial assistance to something like 90-95% of the students (unless it's a public school, where tuition will be dirt cheap anyway). And you got scholarships on top of that. And Masters, with a good job, most employers will at least help with paying for that. It really depends on what you want to do, but going to school is most definitly not over rated. Plus a 19 year old can get $30k a year without too many problemsfor a student loan, but what bank is going to give you $160k all at once to start your own business in this day and age?

And for those who think that the 8-5 sucks compared to school, are obviously not engineering students. I'd love to only work on school stuff between 8am -5pm weekdays. Wednesday night I spent 12 straight hours on a Java project. Real world going to be more work? I doubt it.
I don't know how it work down there in the US, but here in Canada we don' paid full tuition either. The 45K is actually only 1/2 of the cost & the tax payer foot the rest of the bill. Here we don't have the kind of scholarships that the US have, and most of the scholarship/grant is from $500 to $2000.....while the entire school of over 40,000 students may have 2 full ride & a bout six $10k scholarships. The stipulation here in Canada is that you can only accept 1 scholarship at a time, but you can accumulate grants.

Just to let you know I was an engineering student & feel that 8-5 sucks.
 

cain

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nah, leaguing schools dont give merit based scholarships... all need based. how to calculate need is set up by the school, very very shady.