College students, what the hell is the matter with some of you?

[Ocuflox]

Originally posted by: jumpr
Well said. I hate those fsckers who talk and bitch and whine about assignments when their parents are paying $25,000 a year to send them here.

i hate b!tches who complain about how their parents cant afford to send them

 

[FuZoR]

Originally posted by: SammySon
College students are usually still children.

Yes!!!!

But im not loud... I sleep
The students that act like they are in High School piss me off ruining my sleep! damn them!

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: jumpr
Well said. I hate those fsckers who talk and bitch and whine about assignments when their parents are paying $25,000 a year to send them here.

if i was paying $25,000 per year for school(which i am, or very close to) I would be pissed if i had a TA at all. My school has professors exclusively. I'm not paying that much money to be lectured by some pissant wannabe who knows jack sh!t about the field i am studying yet acts high and mighty.

they dont' have to know jack sh!t about YOUR field, they only have to know about the class they're teaching.

 

[Azraele]

Take the full 120 minutes next time they do it.

 

f i was paying $25,000 per year for school(which i am, or very close to) I would be pissed if i had a TA at all. My school has professors exclusively. I'm not paying that much money to be lectured by some pissant wannabe who knows jack sh!t about the field i am studying yet acts high and mighty.

Spoken like a true child.

 

[mee987]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: jumpr
Well said. I hate those fsckers who talk and bitch and whine about assignments when their parents are paying $25,000 a year to send them here.

if i was paying $25,000 per year for school(which i am, or very close to) I would be pissed if i had a TA at all. My school has professors exclusively. I'm not paying that much money to be lectured by some pissant wannabe who knows jack sh!t about the field i am studying yet acts high and mighty.

a couple of people have already pointed out how much you sound like a jackass, so i wont bother. i do wonder though, are you taking any labs? and if you are, do you have professors teaching every one of them?

when you have several hundred students taking a lab course and only 10-15 in a class at once its (nearly) impossible to hire enough professors to teach every lab.

 

[FoBoT]

spank them

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: jumpr
Well said. I hate those fsckers who talk and bitch and whine about assignments when their parents are paying $25,000 a year to send them here.

if i was paying $25,000 per year for school(which i am, or very close to) I would be pissed if i had a TA at all. My school has professors exclusively. I'm not paying that much money to be lectured by some pissant wannabe who knows jack sh!t about the field i am studying yet acts high and mighty.

they dont' have to know jack sh!t about YOUR field, they only have to know about the class they're teaching.

as a matter of fact, ALL of my classes are IN my field. I cannot believe all this defensiveness over paying huge amounts of money for other students to teach you. I gladly pay more to have profs with actual real world experience.

a couple of people have already pointed out how much you sound like a jackass, so i wont bother. i do wonder though, are you taking any labs? and if you are, do you have professors teaching every one of them?

when you have several hundred students taking a lab course and only 10-15 in a class at once its (nearly) impossible to hire enough professors to teach every lab.

Every lab i have taken has had a professor teach it. It may not have been the same prof, but it was a prof. My classes rarely have more than 10-12 people in it TOTAL so labs are often taught by the same person.

 

[Sid59]

oooh .. i also hate the ones that whisper the whole class period and you can hear them and they wont STFU. it's annoying.

 

[Jugernot]

kids today are pricks... I hate almost all teenagers.

 

[CanOWorms]

I once had a neuroscience major getting his MS in Management of Technology as my TA for Network Theory (a course beyond the basic circuits course). He signed up for it because he thought Network Theory meant computer networking! Labs consisted of showing up and him telling us to get the data from other lab periods

I had another TA in a microelectronics course cut lab short to go watch mud wrestling

 

[Ranger X]

Too bad you're in the United States. I was going to suggest you bring a cane for punishment.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: jumpr
Well said. I hate those fsckers who talk and bitch and whine about assignments when their parents are paying $25,000 a year to send them here.

if i was paying $25,000 per year for school(which i am, or very close to) I would be pissed if i had a TA at all. My school has professors exclusively. I'm not paying that much money to be lectured by some pissant wannabe who knows jack sh!t about the field i am studying yet acts high and mighty.

they dont' have to know jack sh!t about YOUR field, they only have to know about the class they're teaching.

as a matter of fact, ALL of my classes are IN my field. I cannot believe all this defensiveness over paying huge amounts of money for other students to teach you. I gladly pay more to have profs with actual real world experience.

well in that case, you don't know what you're talking about. i have never had a TA that didn't know what he was talking about. people are getting defensive because you are posting opinions that have no basis in reality.

 

[rgwalt]

Yeah, give us a break. Don't expect us to work the homework for you. That isn't our job.

R

 

[rgwalt]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: jumpr
Well said. I hate those fsckers who talk and bitch and whine about assignments when their parents are paying $25,000 a year to send them here.

if i was paying $25,000 per year for school(which i am, or very close to) I would be pissed if i had a TA at all. My school has professors exclusively. I'm not paying that much money to be lectured by some pissant wannabe who knows jack sh!t about the field i am studying yet acts high and mighty.

they dont' have to know jack sh!t about YOUR field, they only have to know about the class they're teaching.

as a matter of fact, ALL of my classes are IN my field. I cannot believe all this defensiveness over paying huge amounts of money for other students to teach you. I gladly pay more to have profs with actual real world experience.

a couple of people have already pointed out how much you sound like a jackass, so i wont bother. i do wonder though, are you taking any labs? and if you are, do you have professors teaching every one of them?

when you have several hundred students taking a lab course and only 10-15 in a class at once its (nearly) impossible to hire enough professors to teach every lab.

Every lab i have taken has had a professor teach it. It may not have been the same prof, but it was a prof. My classes rarely have more than 10-12 people in it TOTAL so labs are often taught by the same person.

You must go to a quality school... There were ~1200 students in the freshman chemistry 1 class at my undergrad college. Each one of those students had a 3 hour lab to attend each week. Assuming that there were 25 students per lab, we would need 48 lab sessions per week. Assuming a prof could teach 2 labs per day (6 hours plus grading would be a standard work day) and teach 5 days per week, we would need 5 profs employed full time teaching labs. These professors would have to be TEACHING profs as they would have no time to supervise a research group, which means they would have to be on a purely academic teaching track. Most professors that teach at major universities are there to do research. Some are there to teach... Plus, major universities would rather employ TAs to do this kind of work, so they could spend their money hiring potentially bright new faculty, and thereby increasing their research funding and standing.

There aren't too many colleges like yours. Those that do exist are typically small, private teaching colleges. Many of these colleges give their students excellent educations, so I'm not knocking them. I went to a major state university, and I loved it. I wouldn't have traded it for the world, but many people feel that way about going to small private schools too.

R

 

[Zebo]

Probably older students? We had these two older students in thier 40's on my PChem I class always running thier mouth and asking stupid ass questions to the professor. The class is hard enough without yahoos distracting you in interupting. I have no idea how they passed Organic and Calc III to get in there but they did'nt make it on thank god.
I hate talkers, STFU and learn.

 

[LS20]

i only have 2 pet peeves in class...

1. people packing their stuff up early. like a few minute before class is over, everyone start zipping their damn backpacks and shufflng their stuff around in unison..while the professor is still lecturing. its a huge fugging disrespect. i mean if you want to get packed up early thats fine--i do it too--but do it in a quiet fashion.

2. cell phones ringing in class. jesus, its 2003, they've been out forever, and have lost their novelty. i dont care if you truly need them or not (i use one), but put that biitch in quiet or vibrate mode. and im not even talking about in class... anywhere... vibrate mode is awesome... nobody wants to hear your tritone 50cent-in da club ringing. anybody who has their phone go off during class should be slapped SILLY

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: rgwalt

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: jumpr
Well said. I hate those fsckers who talk and bitch and whine about assignments when their parents are paying $25,000 a year to send them here.

if i was paying $25,000 per year for school(which i am, or very close to) I would be pissed if i had a TA at all. My school has professors exclusively. I'm not paying that much money to be lectured by some pissant wannabe who knows jack sh!t about the field i am studying yet acts high and mighty.

they dont' have to know jack sh!t about YOUR field, they only have to know about the class they're teaching.

as a matter of fact, ALL of my classes are IN my field. I cannot believe all this defensiveness over paying huge amounts of money for other students to teach you. I gladly pay more to have profs with actual real world experience.

a couple of people have already pointed out how much you sound like a jackass, so i wont bother. i do wonder though, are you taking any labs? and if you are, do you have professors teaching every one of them?

when you have several hundred students taking a lab course and only 10-15 in a class at once its (nearly) impossible to hire enough professors to teach every lab.

Every lab i have taken has had a professor teach it. It may not have been the same prof, but it was a prof. My classes rarely have more than 10-12 people in it TOTAL so labs are often taught by the same person.

You must go to a quality school... There were ~1200 students in the freshman chemistry 1 class at my undergrad college. Each one of those students had a 3 hour lab to attend each week. Assuming that there were 25 students per lab, we would need 48 lab sessions per week. Assuming a prof could teach 2 labs per day (6 hours plus grading would be a standard work day) and teach 5 days per week, we would need 5 profs employed full time teaching labs. These professors would have to be TEACHING profs as they would have no time to supervise a research group, which means they would have to be on a purely academic teaching track. Most professors that teach at major universities are there to do research. Some are there to teach... Plus, major universities would rather employ TAs to do this kind of work, so they could spend their money hiring potentially bright new faculty, and thereby increasing their research funding and standing.

There aren't too many colleges like yours. Those that do exist are typically small, private teaching colleges. Many of these colleges give their students excellent educations, so I'm not knocking them. I went to a major state university, and I loved it. I wouldn't have traded it for the world, but many people feel that way about going to small private schools too.

R

You are correct. I go to a small private school It just frustrates me to no end hearing people complain about TAs when they are paying a professor to teach.

 

I respect my teachers, although there are alot of dumbass' out there.

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: lowtech
I feel for you man...I too was a TA several years back. It is such an unrewarding job, but I learn a lot from prepare lectures to handle people. What you should have done is wrote on the board on the first class/lab that everything that they are learning in the lab will be on the final exam. Take 5 minutes at the end of the class & ask the student what they would do with $150.00 if they have it for free. Then explain to them that for every class that they wasted is that they have just donated it to the institution for free. And, then ask the people that disturb the class to reimburse the money to their class mates for the lost time.

HA!
Thats how I convinced myself to go to class when I didnt feel like it. I'd say "Eli, dude its 300 bucks a credit hour. Thats ALOT of tequila and hookers I'm missin out on!"
Sure as hell I'd be out the door in a flash.

 

[Zebo]

I went to a state school in Ca and had labs every quarter and never a TA...always professor no TA. Who knows now with the budget crisis.

 

[Jzero]

Most professors that teach at major universities are there to do research. Some are there to teach... Plus, major universities would rather employ TAs to do this kind of work, so they could spend their money hiring potentially bright new faculty, and thereby increasing their research funding and standing.

Why doesn't anybody seem to see a freaking PROBLEM with this?! Students, PAYING CUSTOMERS are purchasing GOODS (a degree) and SERVICES (teaching, facilities, infrastructure, etc) from a VENDOR (the university).
You can wax poetical all day long about how research is the golden goose that keeps the university afloat. I'd be willing to pay more for a university that does little or no research. There's nothing more frustrating than a professor who is brilliant but either A) has no teaching abilities or B) sees teaching his classes as something that stands in the way of doing his research. I bet there is a market for a high-priced university where students are guaranteed good professors who can teach and take the time to educate them.

I was lucky enough to go to a small but prestigious state school that doesn't have to have TAs teach classes, but I still ran into the "I'd rather be doing research than teaching you so let's just get this overwith" types.

I've said it many times - it's high time universities stop hiding behind the philanthropic guise of "educational institution" and start being held to the same standards to which we hold every other business....low as those standards may be. Universities sell degrees. End of story.

And that's my rant for the hour.

 

[Spoooon]

A reminder, I'm teaching a LAB. You don't need a PHD to teach it. I doubt the school I go to would even be affordable if they had to have enough faculty so that every little class is taught by a PHD.

You do not need a phd for intro classes. You do not need a phd for lower level labs, period. Once you get into your senior level coursework, I can understand being peeved by having a TA or something teach it, but for freshman level crap?

 

[gopunk]

Why doesn't anybody seem to see a freaking PROBLEM with this?! Students, PAYING CUSTOMERS are purchasing GOODS (a degree) and SERVICES (teaching, facilities, infrastructure, etc) from a VENDOR (the university).

don't like it? don't go.

You can wax poetical all day long about how research is the golden goose that keeps the university afloat. I'd be willing to pay more for a university that does little or no research. There's nothing more frustrating than a professor who is brilliant but either A) has no teaching abilities or B) sees teaching his classes as something that stands in the way of doing his research. I bet there is a market for a high-priced university where students are guaranteed good professors who can teach and take the time to educate them.

there are schools like this... generally smaller private schools that don't offer phds. and fwiw, not all schools with good research capabilities are crappy at teaching... a lot of it has to do with the core philosophy of the department or school. i know that at my school, there are tons of departments consciously making efforts to make sure that professors know how to teach well.

I've said it many times - it's high time universities stop hiding behind the philanthropic guise of "educational institution" and start being held to the same standards to which we hold every other business....low as those standards may be. Universities sell degrees. End of story.

you want to talk about business? if they still get tons of applications, why the hell should they change their ways to be less profitable? that would be pretty stupid. they have NO REASON to change.

and personally i do think research is a golden egg... it brings in millions in grants and licensing fees, brings prestige and reputation to a school, and most importantly for an undergrad, is a great opportunity to beef up your resume and/or grad school application. how do you expect students to know whether or not they want to go into grad school if they've never had an opportunity to do research?

 

[MegaloManiaK]

Personaly i had a CS class where people acted like high schoolers once.

I always thought that if i were in charge i would warn them once, then tell them to leave.

If they did not leave call security and have them escourted out.

Its just like any other business, kick em out.