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spidey07

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Originally posted by: CptObvious
Agree with the researchers that the self-esteem movement has gone out of hand. Shame is a powerful teaching tool, but nowadays it's all about protecting the little brats' feelings of being special. This is why America is increasingly getting its ass handed to us by Europe and Asia in any field of team competitions.

Yep. Hopefully this is a wake up call that anybody with common sense already knew. Teaching an entitlement mentality is about the most dangerous thing you can do. And it is rampant these days.

Bring back grades, bring back tag and bring back dodgeball.
 

Gooberlx2

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Oh gee, an older generation whining about how whiney a younger generation is....haven't seen that before. Besides, regardless of how entitled the kids feel in college, everyone gets smacked down to the same playing level when the shocking reality of working-for-a-living takes away all that enthusiasm. :p
 
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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Oh gee, an older generation whining about how whiney a younger generation is....haven't seen that before. Besides, regardless of how entitled the kids feel in college, everyone gets smacked down to the same playing level when the shocking reality of working-for-a-living takes away all that enthusiasm. :p

Problem being that the ratio of "Goes out into the real world and makes it" to "Runs back home to live in Mommy and Daddy's basement and mooch until age 30" is swinging a bit. :p

- M4H
 

Acanthus

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Aug 28, 2001
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70% of the rich go to college.

8% of the poor do.

Theres where your "whiney know-it-all self centered must have money" types come from.
 

Golgatha

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Jul 18, 2003
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: CptObvious
Agree with the researchers that the self-esteem movement has gone out of hand. Shame is a powerful teaching tool, but nowadays it's all about protecting the little brats' feelings of being special. This is why America is increasingly getting its ass handed to us by Europe and Asia in any field of team competitions.

Yep. Hopefully this is a wake up call that anybody with common sense already knew. Teaching an entitlement mentality is about the most dangerous thing you can do. And it is rampant these days.

Bring back grades, bring back tag and bring back dodgeball.

There's no tag or dodgeball anymore? Ok, dodgeball I can maybe see but tag?!
 

chambersc

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with only 30% of the population holding a degree, you're damn right i'm special/better than those who don't.
 

halik

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Oct 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
In a country where a crackwhore tramp Anna Nicole is raised to God/Saint/Ghandi/Mother Teresa status at the time of her death is this any surprise?

QFMFT
 
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Originally posted by: Golgatha
There's no tag or dodgeball anymore? Ok, dodgeball I can maybe see but tag?!

Of course not, it's horribly violent. Kids chasing each other ... OMFG. Next thing you know, they'll be kicking puppies, eating babies, and flipping off boxes of kittens.

- M4H
 

KDOG

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Hey OP, back in the day, would you have had to walk uphill in a snowstorm, across a field of broken glass with bare feet, carrying a 68-lb sack of coal to your furnace-powered computer to post this?

Let me guess, college student?

 

meltdown75

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Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: KDOG
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Hey OP, back in the day, would you have had to walk uphill in a snowstorm, across a field of broken glass with bare feet, carrying a 68-lb sack of coal to your furnace-powered computer to post this?

Let me guess, college student?
Do you always answer a question with a question?
 

ahurtt

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Feb 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
The new report follows a study released by UCLA last month which found that nearly three-quarters of the freshmen it surveyed thought it was important to be ?very well-off financially.? That compared with 62.5 percent who said the same in 1980 and 42 percent in 1966.
sounds more like kids have been paying attention when told that social security is a POS

Just FYI for those college kids that might be reading this. . .three-quarters = 75%.
 

fishmonger12

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Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: ElFenix
The new report follows a study released by UCLA last month which found that nearly three-quarters of the freshmen it surveyed thought it was important to be ?very well-off financially.? That compared with 62.5 percent who said the same in 1980 and 42 percent in 1966.
sounds more like kids have been paying attention when told that social security is a POS

Just FYI for those college kids that might be reading this. . .three-quarters = 75%.

Thanks for the heads up.

- College kid.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
In a country where a crackwhore tramp Anna Nicole is raised to God/Saint/Ghandi/Mother Teresa status at the time of her death is this any surprise?


not at all
:thumbsup:
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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Well, If you're old enough (don't need to be too old) to witness the birth and decline of MTV from decent, to sh1t, to moral cesspool of 24-hour worthless memememe programming, this makes perfect sense.

But hey, every generation has people like this. Perhaps the ratio of those in college has increased due to the pampering PC attitude that today's college-aged kids have been raised with?
 

Zenmervolt

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Oct 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: Acanthus
70% of the rich go to college.

8% of the poor do.

Theres where your "whiney know-it-all self centered must have money" types come from.
And just where did you dig that up? Sounds suspisciously like something pulled out of thin air or an "I remember hearing it somewhere, but can't remember the place" sort of thing.

Also, what is "rich" and what is "poor"? In many cases any family with a combined gross income of 100K/year or more is "rich" even though this is pretty firmly middle class for a family with two working parents and two children.

Without a lot more information, especially information about just where the income cutoffs are for "rich" and "poor", your statistic is less than worthless.

ZV
 

Zenmervolt

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Oct 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: KDOG
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Hey OP, back in the day, would you have had to walk uphill in a snowstorm, across a field of broken glass with bare feet, carrying a 68-lb sack of coal to your furnace-powered computer to post this?
Let me guess, college student?
Do you always answer a question with a question?
If it worked for Socrates, why shouldn't he be allowed to answer a question with a question?

ZV
 

DaShen

Lifer
Dec 1, 2000
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I could have told you that. Watching some of my peers and some of the kids that are a little younger than me live their lives saddens me sometimes.
 

zebano

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That is probably true. I really don't understand the entitlement mentality. There is no reason to make people feel like worthless scum, but unless they happen to do something great, why build them up?
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Jun 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: Acanthus
70% of the rich go to college.

8% of the poor do.

Theres where your "whiney know-it-all self centered must have money" types come from.

Thats exactly right. The recent surge in the cost of attending college has priced most all but the poor little rich kids from attending. Whiny, self-centered, arrogant kids will continue to be the trend in college and society in general until higher education is once again available at a reasonable cost.
 

meltdown75

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Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: KDOG
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Hey OP, back in the day, would you have had to walk uphill in a snowstorm, across a field of broken glass with bare feet, carrying a 68-lb sack of coal to your furnace-powered computer to post this?
Let me guess, college student?
Do you always answer a question with a question?
If it worked for Socrates, why shouldn't he be allowed to answer a question with a question?

ZV
It worked for Socrates?
 

CPA

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Nov 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: thirtythree
Haha, one of the psychiatrists says that parents should quit telling their kids that they're special.

I agree.

The word "self-esteem" should be stricken from the English dictionary.