Actually, a liberal statement would be that education (along with food, healthcare, etc.) should all be government subsidized. His statement actually sounds Republican to me. Maybe deep down, you're actually a bleeding heart liberal.
Actually, a liberal statement would be that education (along with food, healthcare, etc.) should all be government subsidized. His statement actually sounds Republican to me. Maybe deep down, you're actually a bleeding heart liberal.
Not necessarily (at least in Canada) -
CASE 1: When I started engineering (about 11 years ago), I had the 3rd highest graduating average at my high school, and 2nd highest of enrolling students into my program. My total scholarships == $250 (local community award). This was thanks to Affirmative Action, which gave scholarships to girls with much lower grades.
AFAIK, most of those girls just used the scholarship to take all of the general 1st year courses, and then transferred into their desired programs (science, arts) after first year. Only a few stuck through, and they would have done it w/o a scholarship.
CASE 2: My wife, who just finished her master's degree with a 4.0 GPA, was rejected for EVERY scholarship she applied for during her program. She was rejected because they said I should be paying for her, since I am working.
We were screwed as well once we were married. I was in a sweet Co-op program at school, and I would have been debt-free if I didn't have to also pay my wife's tuition. My income as a student made her ineligible for almost every scholarship.
My wife's scholarship fund != my savings account.
MORAL OF THE STORY:
If you really want to get a free education (in Canada), see if you meet any of the following criteria:
- Are you female, and going into a science degree?
- Are you too lazy to work?
- Are you of Aboriginal descent, or a member of a visible minority?
If so, congratulations! Your education is free!
Hard work and determination have very little application up here, I'm afraid...
roguerower
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No it shouldn't. Because if college was absolutely free then everyone graduating from high school would go straight to college and then we would lose all of the blue collar workers and our economy would come to a halt. While college is great, it's not for everyone. I would hate to sit another four years with some of the idiots that i sat next to in high school.
To be honest, I think that's a terrible, elitist point of view. You're saying that college should cost money in order to deprive people of education and keep them in the "blue collar" jobs.
You're forgetting that universities still require testing to get in, so the idiot in high school wouldn't be with you at university anyway. However, free universities would mean that the smart, but poor kid in high school has a much better chance (aside from just applying for loans/grants/scholarships) at getting a good college education.
if u dont want college to be free you could go to a private school i dont think they should be free
HardcoreRobot
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yeah i know it is a bit...though i'm a little confused as to how much it is, i mean some of the loans i know you don't pay taxes on at least for a while...but if you're paying the tuition is that deductible...don't know too much bout it
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For the first 2 years 50% of the cost is a tax credit for the person responsible for the tutition (Hope Credit)
After that and for continuing education %20 of the cost is a tax credit for the person responsible for the tutition (Lifetime Learning Credit).
Queasy
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I agree, college should be free. So I expect to see a check of at least $200 from everybody here to pay for my two kids' college education. Hell, tell you what. Why don't you go ahead and make it $500 a piece so I can send them to a good private school too.
Uh no, high school is not free. Ask your mom and dad how their tax money is going to go into your future high school education.
Schadenfroh
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