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College is a friggin' joke.

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Hoeboy

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I don't think anyone would argue that the professor is the main determining factor on whether or not the course is easy. I would say the material itself provides 25% of the difficulty. I took an upper division Econ class and only showed up for test dates. I didn't do ANY homework and passed with a B. I was never even good at Econ. This semester I took an upper division Geometry class that is purely based on proof. I did jack all semester and I think pulled a B. I'm also taking this lower division math course that is an intro to all other higher math course. This class is supposed to be pretty easy material wise but the instructor really knows his stuff. The end result? I'm struggling like hell in that class.

So does a degree really mean anything? Yes, it meant you picked the right instructor.
 
With the exceptions of the top of the top universities (Stanford, Yale, etc.), there are bound to be plenty of professors who just don't really care .
 
It does depend on the prof, but the material as well. Some material is inherently difficult. So even a nice prof giving easy questions can still cause major headaches.
 
Originally posted by: Hoeboy
I don't think anyone would argue that the professor is the main determining factor on whether or not the course is easy. I would say the material itself provides 25% of the difficulty.
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what? are you contradicting yourself?
 
sure, but if you don't learn anything when you're in school it shows in jobs, in life, etc.

and i'd submit that your experience in difficulty is largely based on where you attend.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Hoeboy
I don't think anyone would argue that the professor is the main determining factor on whether or not the course is easy. I would say the material itself provides 25% of the difficulty.
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what? are you contradicting yourself?
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How am I contradicting myself? Professor is "main" determining factor or majority. Material is about 25%.
 
Originally posted by: Novgrod
sure, but if you don't learn anything when you're in school it shows in jobs, in life, etc.

and i'd submit that your experience in difficulty is largely based on where you attend.
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I think with a lot of careers, your experience will apply more than anything you learn from a book. Noticed I said a lot 😛

Sorry I'm just someone who is sick of school so I'm ranting 🙁
 
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Life is a joke. Most people just don't know when to laugh.
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hahahha, er. um, ahem.
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😛
 
I think with a lot of careers, your experience will apply more than anything you learn from a book. Noticed I said a lot

At any rate, people can tell when others know their stuff, and it's worthwhile to learn your crap so people don't think you ignorant 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Hoeboy
Professor is "main" determining factor or majority. Material is about 25%.
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I dont think so. If you have a sh1tty instructor, and they dont teach you stuff, and you dont know the material, then you cant do well. Hmmmmmmmmmm...Material itself is 100%. You need to know it to pass, even if you just "basically" understand it you can still pass. If you dont goto class and still pass, if you dont do any hw an ace the tests, and you STILL pass, the teacher has a really whacked way to grade.
 
so far i've learned that lecturers at UC Davis don't teach you SH!T compared to community college teachers. From my experience so far, they totally half ass it and expect you and the TA's to cover the rest. Its not such a problem for me and i'm still adjusting to it, but man, i think community college teachers deserve a payraise compared to these 'lecturers'.
 
I think a lot of it has to do with what you make of it. If you want to just skate through you can, but if you want to learn something you can also... but yeah, for the most part it doesn't say much about getting a degree. Come to MIT, it'll kick your ass. 😛
 
Originally posted by: Hoeboy
With the exceptions of the top of the top universities (Stanford, Yale, etc.), there are bound to be plenty of professors who just don't really care .
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there are also plenty of profs at top universities who don't really care about teaching either b/c the criteria for tenure is mainly their research output.
 
You are absolutely correct- professors are about 75% of your grade. If you kiss ass and/or have an easy prof, you have an A. If you have a bad prof, you have a B-/C.

I learned this the hard way this quarter. At UCLA we have a site called www.bruinwalk.com which rates all the professors 1-10. I took a '2' professor and it it showed. I got a C- in a moderately hard stats 100A class. Just goes to show....

Hey, at least I passed *grin*
 
Originally posted by: UCDznutz
so far i've learned that lecturers at UC Davis don't teach you SH!T compared to community college teachers. From my experience so far, they totally half ass it and expect you and the TA's to cover the rest. Its not such a problem for me and i'm still adjusting to it, but man, i think community college teachers deserve a payraise compared to these 'lecturers'.
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Which is exactly why I prefer small Universities, where there are very few lectures. Most classes at Mansfield University where I am going next semester are ~30 students.
 
Ideally whether a course is difficult or not should be determined by the student. Not to say that a grade should be determined by the effort of the student, which some may misunderstand me to mean, but that what is learned is determined by the student solely.

A teacher might hand out A's to the whole class but a student who applies themselves will walk away from the course with a deeper understanding than one who just takes the A.
 
With the exceptions of the top of the top universities (Stanford, Yale, etc.), there are bound to be plenty of professors who just don't really care .


I dont think I would be leaving those school off the list.
 
It also depends on the degree and the person. I would for example say that any liberal arts major should be cake, while I would find a math major, at any school with any teacher, to be difficult.
 
To succeed in life, all you need is know-how and experience. For most, school gets you there, but for others, they dive into the rest head first and attempt to defy the percentages.
 

It took me a while to figure this out, but here's my theory...

The best thing you learn in college is how to learn.

 
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