College guys: how trustworthy are they?

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MaDHaVoK

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Originally posted by: ed21x
if they're an engineering major, then 'Yes' :) otherwise, no.

Yeah.. don't trust any college guys unless they are engineers. Trust me i'm studying EE.

 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: MaDHaVoK
Originally posted by: ed21x
if they're an engineering major, then 'Yes' :) otherwise, no.

Yeah.. don't trust any college guys unless they are engineers. Trust me i'm studying EE.

only cuz engineering majors are the "nice guys" that never get the courage to make a move of any sort :p
 

MaDHaVoK

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: MaDHaVoK
Originally posted by: ed21x
if they're an engineering major, then 'Yes' :) otherwise, no.

Yeah.. don't trust any college guys unless they are engineers. Trust me i'm studying EE.

only cuz engineering majors are the "nice guys" that never get the courage to make a move of any sort :p

I got a gf... and so do a lot of my engineer friends.... so i don't know what you're talking about.
 

Brutuskend

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Unfortunately I would have to say that MOST guys, whether in collage or NOT, are fairly UN trustworthy were sex is involved.
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Unfortunately I would have to say that MOST guys, whether in collage or NOT, are fairly UN trustworthy were sex is involved.

good point... what can we say... besides SEX! ;) :D

edit: btw... pics? :D
 

SagaLore

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If he wants to study, then arrange it to be in the library or a study lounge. Guys don't study books when they're in a room alone with a girl...

If this is in high school - then basically the kid is a virgin and wants to get laid. Well, actually at that stage he just wants to smooch and make feel up and down. If this is in college, and the kid is a virgin, then he really wants to get laid. If he isn't a virgin, then he wants to get laid.

So answer is: play it safe. There's no reason you need "privacy" to study. If you're interested in doing stuff other than study, then arrange a group date - don't mix studying with playtime. ;)
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: MaDHaVoK
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: MaDHaVoK
Originally posted by: ed21x
if they're an engineering major, then 'Yes' :) otherwise, no.

Yeah.. don't trust any college guys unless they are engineers. Trust me i'm studying EE.

only cuz engineering majors are the "nice guys" that never get the courage to make a move of any sort :p

I got a gf... and so do a lot of my engineer friends.... so i don't know what you're talking about.

you don't know what i'm talking about? who do you think is more likely to have more game... business major, or engineering major? there we go.
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: gopunk

i dunno.... what if both people are drunk... is that like mutual rape or something?

not to mention... girls know what's going to happen when they get drunk. unless they're somehow dumber than everybody else... yet they still do it. i can only conclude that they're just looking for an out... they can be as slutty as they want and blame it on the booze.

Where both are intoxicated, it's extremely difficult to say. In all honesty, the man could claim that the woman raped him, depending on how aggressive she was.

Doesn't matter whether girls get drunk or not, if they're drunk and a guy who's sober takes advantage of her, it's rape.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: gopunk

i dunno.... what if both people are drunk... is that like mutual rape or something?

not to mention... girls know what's going to happen when they get drunk. unless they're somehow dumber than everybody else... yet they still do it. i can only conclude that they're just looking for an out... they can be as slutty as they want and blame it on the booze.

Where both are intoxicated, it's extremely difficult to say. In all honesty, the man could claim that the woman raped him, depending on how aggressive she was.

Doesn't matter whether girls get drunk or not, if they're drunk and a guy who's sober takes advantage of her, it's rape.

i don't think it's fair to determine rape without examining intent. do you really think if both are drunk that there was any rape? i don't... rape is the act of forcing a woman to have sex with you. so yea, if you get her drunk with the purpose of having sex with her, then that's rape. but i don't think it's really fair to call it rape if you're both just having a good time and one thing leads to another.

besides, what happens when a guy doesn't even think about if she is drunk? what if he's just really naive, and didn't think twice about it? do we really feel comfortable calling him a rapist?
 

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Originally posted by: gopunk

i don't think it's fair to determine rape without examining intent. do you really think if both are drunk that there was any rape? i don't... rape is the act of forcing a woman to have sex with you. so yea, if you get her drunk with the purpose of having sex with her, then that's rape. but i don't think it's really fair to call it rape if you're both just having a good time and one thing leads to another.

besides, what happens when a guy doesn't even think about if she is drunk? what if he's just really naive, and didn't think twice about it? do we really feel comfortable calling him a rapist?

Again, the lines become blurred. I think that the blanket accusation of rape every time a girl has sex that she later regrets is foolish and dangerous; however, I don't think that a man has any recourse when a girl isn't aware of the decisions she makes, and he is. I hope I'm communicating the right meaning.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: gopunk

i don't think it's fair to determine rape without examining intent. do you really think if both are drunk that there was any rape? i don't... rape is the act of forcing a woman to have sex with you. so yea, if you get her drunk with the purpose of having sex with her, then that's rape. but i don't think it's really fair to call it rape if you're both just having a good time and one thing leads to another.

besides, what happens when a guy doesn't even think about if she is drunk? what if he's just really naive, and didn't think twice about it? do we really feel comfortable calling him a rapist?

Again, the lines become blurred. I think that the blanket accusation of rape every time a girl has sex that she later regrets is foolish and dangerous; however, I don't think that a man has any recourse when a girl isn't aware of the decisions she makes, and he is. I hope I'm communicating the right meaning.

yea i get your meaning, but i don't think we can blame the man if he is just ignorant of her state. i mean, obviously, if the girl is passed out, that's rape. but often times it's not obvious whether it's the alcohol or the girl talking. of course, it is damn near impossible to find out what the guy was thinking, but i'm just saying... i think there is a lot of room for error in rape accusations.
 

spp

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don't have to study in his place right??? there're places like cofe or study lounge
 

SP33Demon

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Well, if it were me in college? I'd def be trying to SCORE! Oh, and I'd tell u how much we can "relate" so well with each other on "another" level. Then I'd try and talk about something that you probably said you like or have an interest in, for instance, like square dancing. But in all reality, it's BS!!! Should u be wary, u ask? Be very, very wary (especially if you're hot). If you're not hot, then be wary if he's drunk! :)
 

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Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
hmmm, on average probably a little more trustworthy that your average college slut. ;)

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Jfur

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: gopunk

i don't think it's fair to determine rape without examining intent. do you really think if both are drunk that there was any rape? i don't... rape is the act of forcing a woman to have sex with you. so yea, if you get her drunk with the purpose of having sex with her, then that's rape. but i don't think it's really fair to call it rape if you're both just having a good time and one thing leads to another.

besides, what happens when a guy doesn't even think about if she is drunk? what if he's just really naive, and didn't think twice about it? do we really feel comfortable calling him a rapist?

Again, the lines become blurred. I think that the blanket accusation of rape every time a girl has sex that she later regrets is foolish and dangerous; however, I don't think that a man has any recourse when a girl isn't aware of the decisions she makes, and he is. I hope I'm communicating the right meaning.

yea i get your meaning, but i don't think we can blame the man if he is just ignorant of her state. i mean, obviously, if the girl is passed out, that's rape. but often times it's not obvious whether it's the alcohol or the girl talking. of course, it is damn near impossible to find out what the guy was thinking, but i'm just saying... i think there is a lot of room for error in rape accusations.

This is a very unlikely situation. Usually, one person is knowingly taking advantage of another. Yes, that is rape, even if she is wearing a bikini and passed out in your bed. If she is hugging and kissing and appears to consent while really drunk, then it's not so clear. But if a guy is sober or buzzed, he should know better. Not to mention so many of those parties involve multiple men *trying* to get girls drunk and somethimes even slipping rohyp into things. The intent was there all along, and there are always new girls who did not know better or believe that would really happen to them.
 

gopunk

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This is a very unlikely situation. Usually, one person is knowingly taking advantage of another. Yes, that is rape, even if she is wearing a bikini and passed out in your bed. If she is hugging and kissing and appears to consent while really drunk, then it's not so clear. But if a guy is sober or buzzed, he should know better. Not to mention so many of those parties involve multiple men *trying* to get girls drunk and somethimes even slipping rohyp into things. The intent was there all along, and there are always new girls who did not know better or believe that would really happen to them.

it may not be the case for most rapes, but i don't think it's particularly unlikely. i agree with your examples, i'm not saying that those aren't rape... i'm just saying... sometimes the guy doesn't really think he's forcing anything. i am talking about that situation where she is hugging, kissing, and appears to consent... that's exactly what i'm talking about :)
 

Rainsford

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I'd love to say that you have nothing to worry about, but I don't believe that. It really depends on the guy, but I'd say watch out. I really don't know what is wrong with some people, but it's pretty obvious that you can't really trust a stranger.
 

Jfur

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Originally posted by: gopunk
This is a very unlikely situation. Usually, one person is knowingly taking advantage of another. Yes, that is rape, even if she is wearing a bikini and passed out in your bed. If she is hugging and kissing and appears to consent while really drunk, then it's not so clear. But if a guy is sober or buzzed, he should know better. Not to mention so many of those parties involve multiple men *trying* to get girls drunk and somethimes even slipping rohyp into things. The intent was there all along, and there are always new girls who did not know better or believe that would really happen to them.

it may not be the case for most rapes, but i don't think it's particularly unlikely. i agree with your examples, i'm not saying that those aren't rape... i'm just saying... sometimes the guy doesn't really think he's forcing anything. i am talking about that situation where she is hugging, kissing, and appears to consent... that's exactly what i'm talking about :)

That happens, I'm sure, but if you look closer, it appears that only a small fraction of rapes are ever reported. Of the ones that are, a tiny percentage are false charges. It's horrible if a woman doesn't take responsiblity for her actions (if she DID indicate consent), but that is such a tiny percentage of what goes on. That's one reason I advise people to go in groups to parties and keep an eye out (and to avoid vertain types of parties altogether).

One last thing: men who have been raped are even less likely to talk about it. But it does happen more than you'd imagine and not just in prisons. Imagine going to a party and having a few drinks and waking up after being drugged and attacked by someone (likely another male), someone who you may never identify. I can't even begin to imagine how that would feel for the rest of my life -- but I've seen the pain in people's eyes.
 

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Originally posted by: Jfur

One last thing: men who have been raped are even less likely to talk about it. But it does happen more than you'd imagine and not just in prisons. Imagine going to a party and having a few drinks and waking up after being drugged and attacked by someone (likely another male), someone who you may never identify. I can't even begin to imagine how that would feel for the rest of my life -- but I've seen the pain in people's eyes.

Rape is a despicable crime, regardless of who it happens to.
 

Alphathree33

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Originally posted by: Dezign
Bring a friend from the same class along with you. Peace, Dezign

Bonus!

I wish more girls thought like that.

I could invite one girl over and get four! :)

In all honesty, I will only call, make plans with or e-mail girls that: (a) that I am interested in (b) were in category (a) but then became 'just friends'

SO most guys just want to spend time with a girl by inviting her to study... that's all. There's nothing dangerous about it.

That said, there are a few guys that could be jerks, I suppose, and try something else...

If you just have sex with him right away (um, he won't resist, I promise) and then study later, that should solve basically all of your problems.