"Collapse" movie. Wish everyone could see it.

[KDOG]

Watching it now on Netflix. Very sobering... here's the trailer. The movie is actually better than the trailer leads on though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAyHIOg5aHk

 

[101mpg]

trailer looked pretty dumb...

 

[manimal]

if this is a disaster movie like Core or Dante's peak im in!!

 

[Icepick]

I saw that on PPV last year. It's sobering because who really knows how close we are to the end of oil?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

The oil companies do! there is LOTS of oil left, nothing to worry about at all,

Everyone knows this.

 

[dmcowen674]

I saw that on PPV last year.

It's sobering because who really knows how close we are to the end of oil?

There will always be plenty of oil.

There will only be a limited number of people that could afford it, that is the issue.

 

[Double Trouble]

We've been hearing for decades that oil is running out. I'm sure the readily available supplies dwindle, but that just pushes the drive to find other (less accessible) sources and find other technologies. The price will be driven up, and eventually it will lead to other replacement technologies because they will finally become price competitive. The market works fine in this case since there are no monopolies on alternative energy technologies.

 

[Tom]

I remember in 1973 thinking about filling some 55 gallon drums with gas so in the future I could take my 57 Chevy out for a spin once in a while to remember what it was like to drive.

 

[IBMer]

We've been hearing for decades that oil is running out. I'm sure the readily available supplies dwindle, but that just pushes the drive to find other (less accessible) sources and find other technologies. The price will be driven up, and eventually it will lead to other replacement technologies because they will finally become price competitive. The market works fine in this case since there are no monopolies on alternative energy technologies.

Much like climate change, the message is getting mixed up. Most of these movies aren't dealing with oil running out, but rather the issue with oil costing too much to actually get out.

 

[Attic]

I developed lung cancer while watching that movie.

 

[dmcowen674]

I remember in 1973 thinking about filling some 55 gallon drums with gas so in the future I could take my 57 Chevy out for a spin once in a while to remember what it was like to drive.

You can only "think" about it because it would be 100% varnish by now not very useful for a Chevy engine.

 

[Elias824]

Interesting movie but it was more doom and gloom then anything substantial. I don't doubt that oil is going to get harder to find and more expensive but its not going to disappear overnight. As it gets more expensive we will learn to adjust, there will be a bigger move to other energy sources. This guys criticism of alternate energy is insane as well, we cant do nuclear because you need permits, solar is bad cause people use it where we make it? Its all sensationalist bull

 

[nick1985]

There will always be plenty of oil.

How can you say that about ANY finite resource?

 

[XZeroII]

"You'll leave the theater shaken"
-The Onion

Sounds like a credible source to quote there.

 

[shira]

There will always be plenty of oil.

How can you say that about ANY finite resource?

As oil prices rise higher and higher, alternatives to oil become more and more attractive and demand for oil eases. So Dave's claim can easily be correct even though the amount of oil is finite. At any point in time, there will be plenty of oil - at a price - for the remaining users of oil.

 

[Craig234]

"You'll leave the theater shaken"
-The Onion

Sounds like a credible source to quote there.

The Onion's A. V. Club is as credible a movie review page as any minor media source.

Attacking it otherwise is like saying the NY Times reviews are bad because the paper also has comic pages.

The Onion's satire content is one part of its product, the movie reviews are another.

 

[Craig234]

As oil prices rise higher and higher, alternatives to oil become more and more attractive and demand for oil eases. So Dave's claim can easily be correct even though the amount of oil is finite. At any point in time, there will be plenty of oil - at a price - for the remaining users of oil.

It's a technical distinction between 'there is no oil' and 'there is no oil affordable to get'.

IMO, they're a lot more similar than different.

If we can't oil for people's needs, it matters little that it's there but we can't get it because it's too expensive, rather than because there isn't any.

It does matter if we find cheaper ways to get it, but that changes the situation.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

How can you say that about ANY finite resource?

You can't.

But we can make Oil out of renewable resources;

Therefore we will never run out of oil

 

[irishScott]

Well electric and hybrid vehicles are already on the market. In a decade or so I imagine they'd be well developed enough to replace gasoline if it really got critical.

Everyone and every generation predicts doom, gloom and apocalypse. It hasn't happened yet, and things might get worse, they might get better. But they're certainly not stopping.

Bottom line, America has a tradition of banding together during a crisis once the crisis becomes reality. We suck at preventative measures, but when it hits we'll be alright for the most part IMO.

 

[Attic]

Well electric and hybrid vehicles are already on the market. In a decade or so I imagine they'd be well developed enough to replace gasoline if it really got critical.

Everyone and every generation predicts doom, gloom and apocalypse. It hasn't happened yet, and things might get worse, they might get better. But they're certainly not stopping.

Bottom line, America has a tradition of banding together during a crisis once the crisis becomes reality. We suck at preventative measures, but when it hits we'll be alright for the most part IMO.

I wholeheartedly agree with the last paragraph.

I don't think every generation predicts doom and gloom, there are some pressures we currently face in this country that are more sombering than anything since the great depression IMO.

 

[hal2kilo]

Capitalism, A love affair. I wish everyone could see it.

 

[Phokus]

The number of countries that are developing and increasingly use oil is going to drive up prices through the roof. I'm not so sure hybrid/electrics will be able to ameliorate that.

 

[Double Trouble]

The more oil prices rise, the more incentive to develop alternatives, so the market will create the solution to the issue of oil being a finite resource. Oil is hard to replace right now because it is plentiful and relatively cheap. Once it is no longer relatively cheap, the market will cause other energy source to be developed, thus pushing us off of oil.

The only caveat is that it takes a long time to change the infrastructure of the world to use one source of energy instead of another. If the price of oil rises rapidly, then no amount of incentive is going to help create alternative solutions quick enough, and the world economy gets crushed. That's the one major danger.

 

[PieIsAwesome]

Needs moar Michael Bay.

 

[irishScott]

The number of countries that are developing and increasingly use oil is going to drive up prices through the roof. I'm not so sure hybrid/electrics will be able to ameliorate that.

If prices get so high that operating a gasoline powered vehicle is impractical for a good chunk of people it'll become profitable to develop the technology. Assuming the price of oil continues on it's current track I imagine there'l be a spike in the technology and infrastructre in the next couple of decades.