Colin Powell Worried By Obama

[chess9]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

Originally posted by: chess9
Obama doesn't have to do a thing to kill capitalism. The Wall Street Burglars, Hedge Fund Manglers, and Real Estate Typhoon Baboons have almost done that themselves. If Obama did nothing the system would have completely collapsed.

So, the OP's premise is nonsense, while Colin Powell makes sense as usual. Congress shouldn't be doing healthcare reform now. We can't afford it because we gave all the money to the aforesaid Wall Street Burglars, et al. And when the states all go bankrupt, and stop paying unemployment compensation, and we have starving children begging for food like some third world country then Americans might be more interested in real change.

-Robert

You have failed to realize that Obama was/is Wall Street's (and Goldman Sachs) man (Soros owns him too). Obama and Goldman are poised to rape the public together with cap and charade.

From Matt Taibbi 's excellent article about Goldman in Rollingstone:

"Fast-forward to today. It's early June in Washington, D.C. Barack Obama, a popular young politician whose leading private campaign donor was an investment bank called Goldman Sachs ? its employees paid some $981,000 to his campaign ? sits in the White House. Having seamlessly navigated the political minefield of the bailout era, Goldman is once again back to its old business, scouting out loopholes in a new government-created market with the aid of a new set of alumni occupying key government jobs.

Gone are Hank Paulson and Neel Kashkari; in their place are Treasury chief of staff Mark Patterson and CFTC chief Gary Gensler, both former Goldmanites. (Gensler was the firm's co-head of finance.) And instead of credit derivatives or oil futures or mortgage-backed CDOs, the new game in town, the next bubble, is in carbon credits ? a booming trillion- dollar market that barely even exists yet, but will if the Democratic Party that it gave $4,452,585 to in the last election manages to push into existence a groundbreaking new commodities bubble, disguised as an "environmental plan," called cap-and-trade. The new carbon-credit market is a virtual repeat of the commodities-market casino that's been kind to Goldman, except it has one delicious new wrinkle: If the plan goes forward as expected, the rise in prices will be government-mandated. Goldman won't even have to rig the game. It will be rigged in advance."

http://www.rollingstone.com/po..._bubble_machine/print#

That's a very good article, for the most part, but no one on Wall Street or in government thinks derivatives are going anywhere. Obama's green credits might become a market, they might not. There's too much invested in derivatives to believe carbon credits are going to be the next savior of the Wall Street Burglars.

Yes, our government is the best money can buy. Are you in favor of campaign finance reform? I didn't think so. This is what you get when you let the rich buy politicians-they buy ALL of them. Nothing new there. Did you really think Obama was not going to kiss the lobbyist's and his donor's asses?

-Robert

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan

Originally posted by: jpeyton
You didn't seem so interested in Colin Powell's opinion when he supported Obama in the 2008 election.

Why the change of heart?

Originally posted by: retrospooty
Its good to see Colin Powell's opinion counts when its in line with republican thinking... When he supports Obama as the best option for president, he's a RINO =)

So Barry, which is it?

Asshats like you two are so damn consumed by the eternal fight between (D) and (R) that you're completely ignorant of the fact most intelligent citizens do not entirely identify with either party; and that they choose, instead, to apply common sense as a filter when examining any specific issue.

In this particular case, I completely agreed with Powell's support for Obama during the campaign, as I ended up voting for Obama as well; and, I ALSO share Powell's concerns about Obama's current out-of-control spending habits.

Have you given the actual issue any thought, or are you too busy worrying about the (D) in front of your own name and in your mouth?

Try to ignore the OP's name and all that Cloward-Piven nonsense thrown in, and then separate out and intelligently examine Collin Powell's concerns alone. Can you do that? Do you have a Common Sense Filter handy?

Gee - thanks for the kind words. I was actually addressing Barry's asshattery. As for the concern over Obama's spending, of course I am concerned... It's been in my sig for almost as long as he has been in office.

 

[alphatarget1]

Honestly, what did Colin Powell expect from a former community organizer like Obama?

 

[FlashG]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

Originally posted by: jpeyton
You didn't seem so interested in Colin Powell's opinion when he supported Obama in the 2008 election.

Why the change of heart?

I can't say I ever posted anything about Powell and Obama. At the time I knew Powell was leaning to Obama for weeks and that he was doing so because he was black. I really didn't care about that.

In the longer run I knew Powell would be sorry. I know Powell is a RINO and he was disliked by a lot of his partners in the Bush administration (he was called "the ultimate bureaucrat"). However Powell is a combat vet and I have no doubt he is a patriot who does not want American free enterprise euthanized to make way for some third world idelology thats a hybrid of Marxism and "sun people" folklore (see Van Jones thread)


http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2315739&enterthread=y

anyway you spin your opinion you still can`t talk yourself out of a wet paper bag......as others before have said---

You didn't seem so interested in Colin Powell's opinion when he supported Obama in the 2008 election.

Why the change of heart?
Its good to see Colin Powell's opinion counts when its in line with republican thinking... When he supports Obama as the best option for president, he's a RINO =)

So Barry, which is it?

It seems Powell's change of heart is more important than some imagined change od heart on my part. There is a gang here that makes posts about the original posters when they want to get away from the facts.

Barry, You now have my attention and respect.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Honestly, what did Colin Powell expect from a former community organizer like Obama?

An intelligent individual.

I'm glad he's worried, I'm always worried about any president we have. More so with Republicans because they always seem a little lacking in the intelligence dept but being smart doesn't always mean a good president. Look at Reagan, he was a stupid motherfucker but he did a decent job. Then again GW was stupid and he fucked things up royally, so bad that we'll be paying for it for years. Now we got a guy who's as smart as they come and the best he can do is try things that he's not even sure will work. Yeah I'm worried that he might fail or be over ambitious but I'd be a lot more worried if we had McCain/Palin in office or any other prominent Republican trying to figure out what to do. All I've heard from them has been criticism, no solutions.

Now just imagine if we had someone in office that the nutter Sotero actually liked. Now that would be extremely worrisome.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

...Every week Obama has another harpoon to launch at the heart of America and he prtends that there is some high minded reason ...

Well anything is better than pretending to be a new forum member. Have a nice day.

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

Originally posted by: jpeyton
You didn't seem so interested in Colin Powell's opinion when he supported Obama in the 2008 election.

Why the change of heart?

I can't say I ever posted anything about Powell and Obama. At the time I knew Powell was leaning to Obama for weeks and that he was doing so because he was black. I really didn't care about that.

In the longer run I knew Powell would be sorry. I know Powell is a RINO and he was disliked by a lot of his partners in the Bush administration (he was called "the ultimate bureaucrat"). However Powell is a combat vet and I have no doubt he is a patriot who does not want American free enterprise euthanized to make way for some third world idelology thats a hybrid of Marxism and "sun people" folklore (see Van Jones thread)


http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2315739&enterthread=y

Maybe not under this username .....

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero
In the longer run I knew Powell would be sorry.

Where does he say he's sorry Obama won? Good luck finding that quote. Plenty of people are "concerned" about our country and/or Obama's policies, but you'd be hard pressed to find a good number who'd rather have had the Old Man and the Weathergirl in the WH. And if you think Powell would prefer the Republican party as it now exists to be running the show, I think you need to reread his statements during the electoral season, and since.

Originally posted by: BarrySotero
The fact is Obama is INTENTIONALLY overloading the system to drive it into crisis to make people vulnerable and force changes people would not otherwise accept. It's a strategy called Cloward-Priven: Strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis

I think the righty whackjobs who started shooting people said the exact same thing right before they went postal.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: alchemize

Harvey's standard jackass response if it is news he doesn't like from a source he doesn't like.

Here's another of my standard responses... :lips: my (_!_)

Better?

Not reallly. That's just a blog, and from what I could find of the author's other writings, she's a mediocre right winger, not that bad, but not very good at analytical thinking. :roll:

At least, you can't give me crap for not doing my homework and checking her out.

You did notice the .... CNN VIDEO????? Oh sorry you were too busy trying to discredit the source...

Hey look Harvey somehow never found his way back into this thread! Must be too busy looking for winnar111's duplicate IP's that his buddies are crying about.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

"Colin Powell, one of President Obama's most prominent Republican supporters, expressed concern Friday that the president's ambitious blitz of costly initiatives may be enlarging the size of government and the federal debt too much.

"I'm concerned at the number of programs that are being presented, the bills associated with these programs and the additional government that will be needed to execute them,"..

One of the cautions that has to be given to the president -- and I've talked to some of his people about this -- is that you can't have so many things on the table that you can't absorb it all."

http://www.washingtontimes.com...oubts-on-obama-agenda/



The fact is Obama is INTENTIONALLY overloading the system to drive it into crisis to make people vulnerable and force changes people would not otherwise accept. It's a strategy called Cloward-Priven: Strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis

"First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse."

That's from site owned by David Horowitz
http://www.discoverthenetworks...Profile.asp?grpid=6967


Every week Obama has another harpoon to launch at the heart of America and he prtends that there is some high minded reason for lethal spending, regulations, initiatives etc. when he's really trying to be America's undertaker - with lots of help from useful idiots in Congress and media.

Happy 4th

Powell should be worried. Obama is setting an example of back bone for Powell to follow.

 

[theeedude]

Biased cherry picking by Washington Times, as usual, they omit what Colin Powell said about Sotomayor in the same interview, calling claims that she's a reverse racist "nonsense."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPXnOazFAJ8

 

[IGBT]

in time, most if not all of "the obama's" supporters will worry. they will finally realize there's a difference between a popularity contest and a presidental election.

 

[theeedude]

I am already worried that Obama is going to water down his agenda to try to get some "bipartisanship" for the sake of popularity.
He has political capital he needs to use, not sit on it.

 

[trenchfoot]

Obama now has 60 votes in the Senate and popular support of the masses to use as a tightly rolled up newspaper to whack some sense into the very Party that drove our Nation to it's present pitiful and sad state of affairs.

Compromise? He don't need no stink'in compromise from the repubs. Who the hell would pay heed to the Party that systematically and catastrophically damaged our economy and worldwide reputation over the years they had control of the Senate, House and Presidency?

Although I do agree with Senseamp that for the sake of earning bonus points in the popularity column, Pres. Obama can afford to throw those very undeserving and unrepentant repubs some crumbs to put in their bowl-full of swill of an agenda.