Colin Powell Worried By Obama

[BarrySotero]

"Colin Powell, one of President Obama's most prominent Republican supporters, expressed concern Friday that the president's ambitious blitz of costly initiatives may be enlarging the size of government and the federal debt too much.

"I'm concerned at the number of programs that are being presented, the bills associated with these programs and the additional government that will be needed to execute them,"..

One of the cautions that has to be given to the president -- and I've talked to some of his people about this -- is that you can't have so many things on the table that you can't absorb it all."

http://www.washingtontimes.com...oubts-on-obama-agenda/



The fact is Obama is INTENTIONALLY overloading the system to drive it into crisis to make people vulnerable and force changes people would not otherwise accept. It's a strategy called Cloward-Priven: Strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis

"First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse."

That's from site owned by David Horowitz
http://www.discoverthenetworks...Profile.asp?grpid=6967


Every week Obama has another harpoon to launch at the heart of America and he prtends that there is some high minded reason for lethal spending, regulations, initiatives etc. when he's really trying to be America's undertaker - with lots of help from useful idiots in Congress and media.

Happy 4th

 

[jpeyton]

You didn't seem so interested in Colin Powell's opinion when he supported Obama in the 2008 election.

Why the change of heart?

 

[Carmen813]

Yes, Obama spent his entire life in public service for the sole reason of destroying the country and the very people he was trying to help.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero
for lethal spending, regulations

Versus the proven success of GOP tax cuts for the wealthy and deregulation.

 

[retrospooty]

Its good to see Colin Powell's opinion counts when its in line with republican thinking... When he supports Obama as the best option for president, he's a RINO =)

So Barry, which is it?

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
You didn't seem so interested in Colin Powell's opinion when he supported Obama in the 2008 election.

Why the change of heart?

You're just making shit up now :roll: He wasn't on the forum in 2008. Unless you know something we don't.

Either way, try forming an original thought for once...

Originally posted by: Carmen813
Yes, Obama spent his entire life in public service for the sole reason of destroying the country and the very people he was trying to help.

I think he genuinely believes the changes he wants is in the best interests of the country. Just like Bush believed the war on Iraq was in the best interests of the country whether the public "realized" it or not.

 

[BarrySotero]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
You didn't seem so interested in Colin Powell's opinion when he supported Obama in the 2008 election.

Why the change of heart?

I can't say I ever posted anything about Powell and Obama. At the time I knew Powell was leaning to Obama for weeks and that he was doing so because he was black. I really didn't care about that.

In the longer run I knew Powell would be sorry. I know Powell is a RINO and he was disliked by a lot of his partners in the Bush administration (he was called "the ultimate bureaucrat"). However Powell is a combat vet and I have no doubt he is a patriot who does not want American free enterprise euthanized to make way for some third world idelology thats a hybrid of Marxism and "sun people" folklore (see Van Jones thread)


http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2315739&enterthread=y

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Carmen813
Yes, Obama spent his entire life in public service for the sole reason of destroying the country and the very people he was trying to help.

Yep, all 2 years of it(in the senate).

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

Originally posted by: jpeyton
You didn't seem so interested in Colin Powell's opinion when he supported Obama in the 2008 election.

Why the change of heart?

I can't say I ever posted anything about Powell and Obama. At the time I knew Powell was leaning to Obama for weeks and that he was doing so because he was black. I really didn't care about that.

In the longer run I knew Powell would be sorry. I know Powell is a RINO and he was disliked by a lot of his partners in the Bush administration (he was called "the ultimate bureaucrat"). However Powell is a combat vet and I have no doubt he is a patriot who does not want American free enterprise euthanized to make way for some third world idelology thats a hybrid of Marxism and "sun people" folklore (see Van Jones thread)


http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2315739&enterthread=y

/facepalm

 

[BarrySotero]

Originally posted by: Carmen813
Yes, Obama spent his entire life in public service for the sole reason of destroying the country and the very people he was trying to help.

Hey Obama went to Harvard to acquire a pedigree to get into politics. Obama has been a radical for a long time. Behind the synthetic 007 facade the media lets him get away with his a heart that echos with "God Damn America!".

This is why friends like UK or Israel are getting thrown down the well while Obama supports dictators who are much like he is.

I always said Obama wasn't a Muslim either and that his "Christianity" was of the black liberation theology brand (black Jesus vd Evil crackers). Obama also threw the great Muslims of Iran down the well.

Obama cares about Obama. His "health care" and cap and charade etc are about power and mayhem.

We joust and joke around here but libs, conservs whatever - we are all in trouble if this guy isn't controlled. There is no solar paradise at the end of Obama's road map. He might go down the well himself if his backers decide as much.

 

[Carmen813]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Carmen813
Yes, Obama spent his entire life in public service for the sole reason of destroying the country and the very people he was trying to help.

Yep, all 2 years of it(in the senate).

Interesting that you consider only national elected office public service.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

Originally posted by: jpeyton
You didn't seem so interested in Colin Powell's opinion when he supported Obama in the 2008 election.

Why the change of heart?

I can't say I ever posted anything about Powell and Obama. At the time I knew Powell was leaning to Obama for weeks and that he was doing so because he was black. I really didn't care about that.

In the longer run I knew Powell would be sorry. I know Powell is a RINO and he was disliked by a lot of his partners in the Bush administration (he was called "the ultimate bureaucrat"). However Powell is a combat vet and I have no doubt he is a patriot who does not want American free enterprise euthanized to make way for some third world idelology thats a hybrid of Marxism and "sun people" folklore (see Van Jones thread)


http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2315739&enterthread=y

anyway you spin your opinion you still can`t talk yourself out of a wet paper bag......as others before have said---

You didn't seem so interested in Colin Powell's opinion when he supported Obama in the 2008 election.

Why the change of heart?
Its good to see Colin Powell's opinion counts when its in line with republican thinking... When he supports Obama as the best option for president, he's a RINO =)

So Barry, which is it?

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

www.washingtontimes.com...

Sun Myung Moon's Bushwhacko pimping rag. :thumbsdown:

i.e. credibility < 0

That's from site owned by David Horowitz

David Horowitz is one of the neocon scumbags who were early pimps for invading Iraq. We know how well that turned out. :roll:

i.e. credibility < 0

 

[BarrySotero]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

www.washingtontimes.com...

i.e. credibility < 0

That's from site owned by David Horowitz

i.e. credibility < 0

It's easy to look up Cloward-Priven. It's more a matter of fact that it exists and not a matter of opinion. Obama fits C-P to the letter

Just to torment you here are bits from WND article about same thing (just out yesterday)

Obama wields power by orchestrating crises


"Cloward and Piven specifically calculated their strategy as a way to end poverty by bringing the capitalist system to collapse through a series of escalating demands that could never be met.

One of their principal demands was the establishment of a "guaranteed annual income." Just six years later, this demand became a part of the platform of the 1972 Democratic National Convention and the presidential nominee that year, George McGovern.

But Cloward and Piven didn't just argue that such ideas should become political demands. They argued that action needed to be taken by like-minded fellow travelers to wreak havoc on the system. One way that was to be accomplished, they explained in their treatise, was for social workers to sign up the poor in existing social programs at such levels as to tax the system to the breaking point.

When these entitlements were no longer able to be covered by government agencies, the new dependent class would riot and rebel and create chaos that would create a real crisis for the system.

This was the organization Barack Obama would serve as an attorney and as a trainer of its leadership.

ACORN wasn't just about registering Democratic voters. It was about registering so many that it created a crisis in the system ? the same way Wiley created a crisis in the welfare rolls. Fraudulent voters were just as good as legitimate voters.

Where did the money come from for such abuses? ACORN was heavily funded by George Soros' Open Society Institute.

Did it work?

You bet. The idea behind ACORN's voter registration campaign, which continues to this day, even benefiting now from direct federal taxpayer support, was to register as many Democratic voters as possible, legal or not, and assist them in voting ? the more times the merrier. The system had to be overwhelmed with registrations, multiple entries, dead voters, random names, contrived names. When it all became impossible to police, the lobbying for minimal identification standards for voters would begin. "


http://www.wnd.com/index.php?f...rintable&pageId=102735

 

[BarrySotero]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

Originally posted by: jpeyton
You didn't seem so interested in Colin Powell's opinion when he supported Obama in the 2008 election.

Why the change of heart?

I can't say I ever posted anything about Powell and Obama. At the time I knew Powell was leaning to Obama for weeks and that he was doing so because he was black. I really didn't care about that.

In the longer run I knew Powell would be sorry. I know Powell is a RINO and he was disliked by a lot of his partners in the Bush administration (he was called "the ultimate bureaucrat"). However Powell is a combat vet and I have no doubt he is a patriot who does not want American free enterprise euthanized to make way for some third world idelology thats a hybrid of Marxism and "sun people" folklore (see Van Jones thread)


http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2315739&enterthread=y

anyway you spin your opinion you still can`t talk yourself out of a wet paper bag......as others before have said---

You didn't seem so interested in Colin Powell's opinion when he supported Obama in the 2008 election.

Why the change of heart?
Its good to see Colin Powell's opinion counts when its in line with republican thinking... When he supports Obama as the best option for president, he's a RINO =)

So Barry, which is it?

It seems Powell's change of heart is more important than some imagined change od heart on my part. There is a gang here that makes posts about the original posters when they want to get away from the facts.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

At the time I knew Powell was leaning to Obama for weeks and that he was doing so because he was black.

Not because he judged Obama to be the better candidate?

If that were true, why isn't he still blindly supporting Obama now? His skin color hasn't changed.

While I'm unconvinced of your sincerity in raising this issue and of the tinfoil hat conspiracy theories, Powell does make an obvious point about trying to do to much too soon.

 

[stateofbeasley]

Nothing anyone says to BarrySotero will make a whit of difference in his opinion.

It's like arguing with the man on the street who insists that the government is using orbiting satellites' radios to scan his brain. Power and mayhem? Give me a break.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Carmen813
Yes, Obama spent his entire life in public service for the sole reason of destroying the country and the very people he was trying to help.

I believe it.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

Just to torment you here are bits from WND article about same thing (just out yesterday)

You're batting three for three. World Net Daily (WND) is yet another bunch of neocon scumbag war pimps. :thumbsdown:

i.e. credibility < 0

I'm not tormented, but I'm feeling something closer to pity because your pathetic, intellectually and ethically bankrupt choices of sources don't speak well for you or your credibility, either. :laugh:

 

[spittledip]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Carmen813
Yes, Obama spent his entire life in public service for the sole reason of destroying the country and the very people he was trying to help.

I believe it.

lol

He just wants to push his agenda, he isn't trying to destroy the country. Whether or not pushing his agenda puts the country in a worse place remains to be seen. I suppose things could work out ok. There are so many factors involved, it is hard to know for certain.

 

[chess9]

Obama doesn't have to do a thing to kill capitalism. The Wall Street Burglars, Hedge Fund Manglers, and Real Estate Typhoon Baboons have almost done that themselves. If Obama did nothing the system would have completely collapsed.

So, the OP's premise is nonsense, while Colin Powell makes sense as usual. Congress shouldn't be doing healthcare reform now. We can't afford it because we gave all the money to the aforesaid Wall Street Burglars, et al. And when the states all go bankrupt, and stop paying unemployment compensation, and we have starving children begging for food like some third world country then Americans might be more interested in real change.

-Robert

 

[BarrySotero]

Originally posted by: chess9
Obama doesn't have to do a thing to kill capitalism. The Wall Street Burglars, Hedge Fund Manglers, and Real Estate Typhoon Baboons have almost done that themselves. If Obama did nothing the system would have completely collapsed.

So, the OP's premise is nonsense, while Colin Powell makes sense as usual. Congress shouldn't be doing healthcare reform now. We can't afford it because we gave all the money to the aforesaid Wall Street Burglars, et al. And when the states all go bankrupt, and stop paying unemployment compensation, and we have starving children begging for food like some third world country then Americans might be more interested in real change.

-Robert

You have failed to realize that Obama was/is Wall Street's (and Goldman Sachs) man (Soros owns him too). Obama and Goldman are poised to rape the public together with cap and charade.

From Matt Taibbi 's excellent article about Goldman in Rollingstone:

"Fast-forward to today. It's early June in Washington, D.C. Barack Obama, a popular young politician whose leading private campaign donor was an investment bank called Goldman Sachs ? its employees paid some $981,000 to his campaign ? sits in the White House. Having seamlessly navigated the political minefield of the bailout era, Goldman is once again back to its old business, scouting out loopholes in a new government-created market with the aid of a new set of alumni occupying key government jobs.

Gone are Hank Paulson and Neel Kashkari; in their place are Treasury chief of staff Mark Patterson and CFTC chief Gary Gensler, both former Goldmanites. (Gensler was the firm's co-head of finance.) And instead of credit derivatives or oil futures or mortgage-backed CDOs, the new game in town, the next bubble, is in carbon credits ? a booming trillion- dollar market that barely even exists yet, but will if the Democratic Party that it gave $4,452,585 to in the last election manages to push into existence a groundbreaking new commodities bubble, disguised as an "environmental plan," called cap-and-trade. The new carbon-credit market is a virtual repeat of the commodities-market casino that's been kind to Goldman, except it has one delicious new wrinkle: If the plan goes forward as expected, the rise in prices will be government-mandated. Goldman won't even have to rig the game. It will be rigged in advance."

http://www.rollingstone.com/po..._bubble_machine/print#

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: Carmen813

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Carmen813
Yes, Obama spent his entire life in public service for the sole reason of destroying the country and the very people he was trying to help.

Yep, all 2 years of it(in the senate).

Interesting that you consider only national elected office public service.

That would make Palin as capable as Obama. Is that what you are saying here?

 

[Carmen813]

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: Carmen813

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Carmen813
Yes, Obama spent his entire life in public service for the sole reason of destroying the country and the very people he was trying to help.

Yep, all 2 years of it(in the senate).

Interesting that you consider only national elected office public service.

That would make Palin as capable as Obama. Is that what you are saying here?

Nope, cause she's a woman. That already puts her at a disadvantage.*




*Ask an absurd question, get an absurd answer.

 

[ZeGermans]

Oh god not big government, I find for-profit corporations to be much better rulers with my interests in heart.

Of course consider this: big government that's controlled by corporations is the same thing.