Colin Powell calls Kerry OUT!

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
Oct 16, 1999
10,490
4
0
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Please show quote where Al Gore says "I invented the internet."


During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.

According to Webster's dictionary:

Inflected Form(s): cre·at·ed; cre·at·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin creatus, past participle of creare; akin to Latin crescere to grow -- more at CRESCENT
transitive senses
1 : to bring into existence <God created the heaven and the earth -- Gen 1:1 (Authorized Version)
2 a : to invest with a new form, office, or rank <was created a lieutenant> b : to produce or bring about by a course of action or behavior <her arrival created a terrible fuss> <create new jobs>
3 : CAUSE, OCCASION <famine creates high food prices>
4 a : to produce through imaginative skill <create a painting> b : DESIGN <creates dresses>

Main Entry: in·vent
Pronunciation: in-'vent
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin inventus, past participle of invenire to come upon, find, from in- + venire to come -- more at COME
1 archaic : FIND, DISCOVER
2 : to devise by thinking : FABRICATE
3 : to produce (as something useful) for the first time through the use of the imagination or of ingenious thinking and experiment

invent, create, Gore didn't do either one when it comes to the Internet. he supported legislation to fund expansion of the internet backbone, but he didn't create or invent it.

words have meanings. what Gore said has a meaning. what he said was wrong.

go ahead and argue all you want that Gore never said he invented the internet. he said he created it.
and when it's all said and done, what i have said about Gore is closer to the truth than what Gore said about himself.

in·i·tia·tive ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-nsh-tv)
n.
The power or ability to begin or to follow through energetically with a plan or task; enterprise and determination.
A beginning or introductory step; an opening move: took the initiative in trying to solve the problem.

The power or right to introduce a new legislative measure.
The right and procedure by which citizens can propose a law by petition and ensure its submission to the electorate.

Words do have meanings. Even more so when used in groups. One would think you'd have a handle on the sentence thing being a surgeon and all. I hope you read your patient's charts more carefully than you do political quotes. Gore didn't say he created the internet, he said exactly what he said, which by your own admission is correct.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
25,162
1
76
www.ShawCAD.com
Originally posted by: conjur
Esp. after he put the smackdown on Rumsfeld and Powell to keep quiet during the campaign.

Wrong - he didn't tell them to be quiet during the campaign - he wants them to stay out of the campaigning and focus on their jobs.

But I'm sure the left will protray it like you did - inspite of what was actually said.

But then again this thread is about Powell calling kerry out for the names of the supposed world leaders who support kerry.

CkG
 

Zedtom

Platinum Member
Nov 23, 2001
2,146
0
0
Kerry does like to stir things up, but then what has Colin Powell done lately to advance the cause of peace and stability in the world?
 

josphII

Banned
Nov 24, 2001
1,490
0
0
WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) on Sunday challenged Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites) to name the foreign leaders whom the Massachusetts senator claims want him as the next U.S. president.

here's two gimme's:
saddam hussein
osama bin laden
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
Of what country was bin Laden a leader?

rolleye.gif
 

Zephyr106

Banned
Jul 2, 2003
1,309
0
0
Powell looks like a clown these days. After that stunning 4th grade WMD presentation at the UN, my respect for him has fallen sharply.

Zephyr
 

AndrewR

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
11,157
0
0
I don't know them by name, but I suspect these other foreign leaders endorse Kerry:
Leader of Hamas,
Leader of Hizbullah,
Leader of Egyptian Islamic Jihad,
Leader of Palestinian Islamic Jihad,
Leader of Ansar al-Islam,
Leader of FARC,
and I know this guy's name, Abu Bakar Bashir, head of Jemaah Islamiyah.

Do they get delegates at the convention?
 

heartsurgeon

Diamond Member
Aug 18, 2001
4,260
0
0
yeah right, AlGore created the Internet, and i suppose you believe he was elected president too.

dream on........
 

glugglug

Diamond Member
Jun 9, 2002
5,340
1
81
Originally posted by: josphII
WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) on Sunday challenged Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites) to name the foreign leaders whom the Massachusetts senator claims want him as the next U.S. president.

here's two gimme's:
saddam hussein
osama bin laden

Bin Laden would support Bush except for his being in custody. Bush has been doing a better job of terrorizing the American people than Bin Laden could ever dream of.
 

songlong

Junior Member
Mar 4, 2003
6
0
0
I didn't know that president candidate must has support from other countries's presidents in order to get elect. Isn't that american people are the one who vote for president?
"American people, I get more support from other countries president, so I am your president" That show weak side of him and it is pathetic
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
Originally posted by: songlong
I didn't know that president candidate must has support from other countries's presidents in order to get elect. Isn't that american people are the one who vote for president?
"American people, I get more support from other countries president, so I am your president" That show weak side of him and it is pathetic

Umm...that's nowhere near the reasoning behind it.

The reason is Bush has failed at world diplomacy. His foreign policy is a joke and he has no credibility with the rest of the world's leaders.
 

MonkeyK

Golden Member
May 27, 2001
1,396
8
81
Originally posted by: AndrewR
I don't know them by name, but I suspect these other foreign leaders endorse Kerry:
Leader of Hamas,
Leader of Hizbullah,
Leader of Egyptian Islamic Jihad,
Leader of Palestinian Islamic Jihad,
Leader of Ansar al-Islam,
Leader of FARC,
and I know this guy's name, Abu Bakar Bashir, head of Jemaah Islamiyah.

Do they get delegates at the convention?

I think all of those people would prefer Bush to be reelected. Hatred makes recruiting easier.

 

MonkeyK

Golden Member
May 27, 2001
1,396
8
81
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
yeah right, AlGore created the Internet, and i suppose you believe he was elected president too.

dream on........

HS, wake up! Nobody ever claimed that Al Gore created or invented the internet. Bunch of people say he claimed it, yourself included, but they are all wrong.
 

songlong

Junior Member
Mar 4, 2003
6
0
0
so what you said is that he must do what other countries want us to do bc if he does not follow them then he "has no credibility with the rest of the world's leaders"
So where is the pride of the US?? If we do follow them, then I think you and I still live under Nazi or communist rule by now
 

SuperTool

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
14,000
2
0
Originally posted by: ELP
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Please show quote where Al Gore says "I invented the internet."


During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.

*drops jaw...

amazing, simply amazing

Please educate yourself on Gore's record, and the jaw situation will improve. You may want to start with the High Performance Computing Act.
 

Gaard

Diamond Member
Feb 17, 2002
8,911
1
0
I believe heartsurgeon is making an assertion of fact that Gore stated he invented the internet. Isn't that a Liberal ploy heartsurgeon? I'll vault this thread for the next time you use that phrase as a put down. ;)

Ok, I want to see a show of hands. Who here believes that Gore stated he invented the internet?
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
64,795
84
91
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Please show quote where Al Gore says "I invented the internet."


During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.

According to Webster's dictionary:

Inflected Form(s): cre·at·ed; cre·at·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin creatus, past participle of creare; akin to Latin crescere to grow -- more at CRESCENT
transitive senses
1 : to bring into existence <God created the heaven and the earth -- Gen 1:1 (Authorized Version)
2 a : to invest with a new form, office, or rank <was created a lieutenant> b : to produce or bring about by a course of action or behavior <her arrival created a terrible fuss> <create new jobs>
3 : CAUSE, OCCASION <famine creates high food prices>
4 a : to produce through imaginative skill <create a painting> b : DESIGN <creates dresses>

Main Entry: in·vent
Pronunciation: in-'vent
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin inventus, past participle of invenire to come upon, find, from in- + venire to come -- more at COME
1 archaic : FIND, DISCOVER
2 : to devise by thinking : FABRICATE
3 : to produce (as something useful) for the first time through the use of the imagination or of ingenious thinking and experiment

invent, create, Gore didn't do either one when it comes to the Internet. he supported legislation to fund expansion of the internet backbone, but he didn't create or invent it.

words have meanings. what Gore said has a meaning. what he said was wrong.

go ahead and argue all you want that Gore never said he invented the internet. he said he created it.
and when it's all said and done, what i have said about Gore is closer to the truth than what Gore said about himself.

in·i·tia·tive ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-nsh-tv)
n.
The power or ability to begin or to follow through energetically with a plan or task; enterprise and determination.
A beginning or introductory step; an opening move: took the initiative in trying to solve the problem.

The power or right to introduce a new legislative measure.
The right and procedure by which citizens can propose a law by petition and ensure its submission to the electorate.

Words do have meanings. Even more so when used in groups. One would think you'd have a handle on the sentence thing being a surgeon and all. I hope you read your patient's charts more carefully than you do political quotes. Gore didn't say he created the internet, he said exactly what he said, which by your own admission is correct.



lol yea, i can't believe he brought that one up again in the first place. its been debunked to death and he still tries...simply pathetic, esp considering how he apparently knows how to use a dictionary.

just another example of the republican scum machine in action. if they can paint McCain as a vc collaborator, they can do anything.

http://www.sethf.com/gore/
http://commons.somewhere.com/rre/2000/RRE.Al.Gore.and.the.Inte.html
http://dir.salon.com/tech/col/rose/2000/10/05/gore_internet/index.html
http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200009/msg00052.html

As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed
telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the
improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official
to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact
than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily
forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial
concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even
earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as we
know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in
the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual
leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high
speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on
how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating
the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises.

As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate
what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks into
an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with officials
in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured the
passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in
1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education
Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the
spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.

As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as
well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies
that spawned it. He served as the major administration proponent for
continued investment in advanced computing and networking and private
sector initiatives such as Net Day. He was and is a strong proponent of
extending access to the network to schools and libraries. Today,
approximately 95% of our nation's schools are on the Internet. Gore
provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of the
Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven
operation.

There are many factors that have contributed to the Internet's rapid growth
since the later 1980s, not the least of which has been political support
for its privatization and continued support for research in advanced
networking technology. No one in public life has been more intellectually
engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving Internet than the
Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this effort, both in the
councils of government and with the public at large.

The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of the value
of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and
consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to American
citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world.


more likely he's simply following in the steps of his heros, limbaugh/coulter, people who blatantly repeat lies as lies are all they have.

"If we're an arrogant nation, they'll resent us," he said, speaking of the America's dealings with other countries in general. "If we're a humble nation but strong, they'll welcome us."
gw bush-lite in 2000 before he flip flops..

just remember he claimed we were horribly over deployed in 2000 when we only had a total of 11 thousand troops in bosnia/kosovo

and just remember, he said he wouldn't intervene in another rawanda(genocide) in 2000, next time u try to bring up iraq as a humanitarian mission.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
25,162
1
76
www.ShawCAD.com
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Just a MINOR correction ;)

Oh really?

"...I never said that. What I said was that I have heard from people who are leaders elsewhere in the world who don't appreciate the Bush administration approach and would love to see a change in the leadership of the United States."

foreign leaders != leaders elsewhere in the world ? Are you kidding me?

CkG
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
I fully expect see the next headline:

Colin apologizes to Kerry


NOT. Colin's a bit embarrassed now, eh?

:D