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cubby1223

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I wasn't the one who suggested teenagers are the only ones that should be working minimum wage jobs. If you have a 24 hour business, you should be paying a higher wage to those who are working those hours where teens can't. They're not incompetent, they're greedy tightwads.

You knew what he was talking about when he wrote it.

No need to argue further, though, the food industry is already working on ways to replace as much staff as they can, and we won't have to deal with these issues anymore :p
 

soundforbjt

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You knew what he was talking about when he wrote it.

No need to argue further, though, the food industry is already working on ways to replace as much staff as they can, and we won't have to deal with these issues anymore :p

It's not JUST the food industry though, Walmart's another example and there's many more you can't automate, Denny's etc.
 

flexy

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So what exactly are you going to do about it? The way I see it, your choices are to either (1) fight and lose, or (2) accept and focus your energy on developing a new niche for yourself in the always-changing world.

I mean, you can protest by not buying foreign-made goods. If you believe your actions actually have an impact in this world.

Wait..what? I am not running for pres of the US so "what I can do" is obviously limited :) If I were a politician I would tax those companies who offshore and manufacture in India/Pakistan up the ass. Simple as that.

Yes, the 1% will not like that because it OBVIOUSLY means less profits..but as mentioned above...the profit lines of the 1% are not MY concern :)

I know and I am 100% convinced that such would benefit all and ULTIMATELY also the corporates themselves. (More domestic jobs --> more people who can afford to live --> more consumer spending --> benefit for company XYZ)

This is not an area where (I think) individuals can achieve lots by protest or "buying domestic and not from China"...AS LONG as there are no regulations and limitations preventing corporates doing what they're doing. And if someone calls that "socialism" or whatever, don't care. There MUST be regulations in place.

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You know, American unregulated capitalism and liberties, all nice and good in theory.

But this enthusiasm for unregulated capitalism should never go so far that I'd endorse, say, what Martin Shkreli does or that I'd endorse that car maker X is now manufacturing in Mexico "because it's so cool that we have this freedom in the US", blatantly ignoring the results. One side: CEO XYZ makes more profit, other side: Line of unemployed that can't find work ion Bumbletown/TN. So what side am I on?
 
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umbrella39

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FFS this place needs an ignition interlock on it to prevent drunk fucktardry threads...
 

kage69

Lifer
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Bullshit can't be debunked by more bullshit. Spending does not equal government revenue. You are trying to compare total healthcare spending vs. tax revenue. Does not compute.

Please don't put words in my mouth. Genius1980 is getting self-righteously indignant over people attributing numbers to Bernie that simply don't come from him, and he could fix that with 3 seconds of reading - were it not for the evil librul media out to get him I guess. I'm not making any comparisons, I'm trying to get a regular to be less allergic to information and quit with the false attribution. The bullshit of the anti-Bernie math is debunked in the very first paragraph I quoted, sorry if that doesn't work for you.
 

cubby1223

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I'd also like to point out another inconvenient fact about the progressive love for Scandinavia...

Look at Europe as a whole - you have a few countries like Denmark, Sweden, Norway, even Germany, doing well. You also have a ton of countries doing quite shitty. France's unemployment is 11%, Italy's 12%, Greece at 25%. Look further east and countries with a per-capita GDP of below $10k are not uncommon.

What does the U.S. have that Europe does not? A federal government who taxes the population fairly equally across all states and in significant proportions. Europe doesn't do this. The money supply that is within Denmark, largely can stay within Denmark. Denmark's economy, and it's population, is not propping up the lives of those living in Southern or Eastern Europe. It also helps that Denmark is not a part of the Eurozone. They maintain their own currency. They have a few limits set in place with how they can handle their currency, but not being strictly bound to the Euro like everyone else is most definitely helping them.

In order to replicate that style of socialism over here, you could do it in a few pockets of the nation if they cut themselves out of the federal taxes. If you believe Ol' Bernie can replicate it throughout the whole U.S., you're fooling yourselves.

So, yea, vote for Sanders if you enjoy living in fantasy land :p

Denmark is a progressive paradise because... well, because they actually are not progressive at all compared to the much more expansive United States.
 
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John Connor

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http://www.ijreview.com/2015/10/449...wned&utm_campaign=politics&utm_term=ijamerica



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Bitek

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while Sanders' argument makes complete sense, it boggles my mind that a Presidential candidate would say that the US should look to China as an example on anything, regardless of whether or not he's technically right.

Is he, out of here saying we suck so bad even a corrupt dictatorship focused only on money, is more progressive on family values than us..?

But yea, gotta be careful with that.
 

Bitek

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I'd also like to point out another inconvenient fact about the progressive love for Scandinavia...

Look at Europe as a whole - you have a few countries like Denmark, Sweden, Norway, even Germany, doing well. You also have a ton of countries doing quite shitty. France's unemployment is 11%, Italy's 12%, Greece at 25%. Look further east and countries with a per-capita GDP of below $10k are not uncommon.

What does the U.S. have that Europe does not? A federal government who taxes the population fairly equally across all states and in significant proportions. Europe doesn't do this. The money supply that is within Denmark, largely can stay within Denmark. Denmark's economy, and it's population, is not propping up the lives of those living in Southern or Eastern Europe. It also helps that Denmark is not a part of the Eurozone. They maintain their own currency. They have a few limits set in place with how they can handle their currency, but not being strictly bound to the Euro like everyone else is most definitely helping them.

In order to replicate that style of socialism over here, you could do it in a few pockets of the nation if they cut themselves out of the federal taxes. If you believe Ol' Bernie can replicate it throughout the whole U.S., you're fooling yourselves.

So, yea, vote for Sanders if you enjoy living in fantasy land :p

Denmark is a progressive paradise because... well, because they actually are not progressive at all compared to the much more expansive United States.


I think also there is a euro fetishism by people that haven't really spent anytime in Europe and/or assume a level of cultural of political superiority that isn't really deserved.

There are things Europe really does well that we could learn from, but there is plenty that we do much better and should be proud of.
 

disappoint

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You must be seriously brainwashed when you defend things like this.

There is a certain subset of the population that enjoys giving up control of their cognitive functions to others. They often have similar characteristics. They are likely to be Republican, very religious, have very short attention spans, are easily swayed by sound bites. They are very team oriented. They literally see politics as a team sport. It's their side vs. the other side. The Republican "advertising machine" for lack of a better term, knows exactly how to manipulate and as you put it "brainwash" them into even so much as take stances that are not even in their own best interest. They are easily manipulated because in their case the analytical portion of the mind is very weak compared to the emotional part of their minds. This is true for most people as well, but to varying degrees, and it can be controlled and overcome by the individual if they choose to learn how it's done and therefore how to counteract such techniques. However this problem isn't within their awareness therefore they will not be able to know it exists let alone do anything about it. You can't fix what you are unaware of.
 

michal1980

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There is a certain subset of the population that enjoys giving up control of their cognitive functions to others. They often have similar characteristics. They are likely to be Republican, very religious, have very short attention spans, are easily swayed by sound bites. They are very team oriented. They literally see politics as a team sport. It's their side vs. the other side. The Republican "advertising machine" for lack of a better term, knows exactly how to manipulate and as you put it "brainwash" them into even so much as take stances that are not even in their own best interest. They are easily manipulated because in their case the analytical portion of the mind is very weak compared to the emotional part of their minds. This is true for most people as well, but to varying degrees, and it can be controlled and overcome by the individual if they choose to learn how it's done and therefore how to counteract such techniques. However this problem isn't within their awareness therefore they will not be able to know it exists let alone do anything about it. You can't fix what you are unaware of.

I think you need to open your eyes to the democratic party. The party that thinks everyone needs a government handout, and the party that lives and breaths for creating government dependents.

Sanders just wants to create more government tit suckers. Child care - you need government for that, higher education - you need government for that, higher paying job, - you need government for that. Ass wiped? might need government for that, it would be a good question for sanders.
 

michal1980

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while Sanders' argument makes complete sense, it boggles my mind that a Presidential candidate would say that the US should look to China as an example on anything, regardless of whether or not he's technically right.

China is a liberals wet dream, government control of the markets, strict controls on religion, no gun ownership, a state controlled media. If one the baby thing was flipped to killing boys instead of girls, it would be perfect.
 

disappoint

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I think you need to open your eyes to the democratic party. The party that thinks everyone needs a government handout, and the party that lives and breaths for creating government dependents.

Oh so you're telling me that you have read the mind of every single Democrat, and they all think exactly alike. They all agree that everyone, every single person, needs a government handout.

How conveniently simple.
 

michal1980

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Oh so you're telling me that you have read the mind of every single Democrat, and they all think exactly alike. They all agree that everyone, every single person, needs a government handout.

How conveniently simple.

Your the one arguing that all republicans think alike. So that means you have read the mind of every single republican?
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Oh so you're telling me that you have read the mind of every single Democrat, and they all think exactly alike. They all agree that everyone, every single person, needs a government handout.

How conveniently simple.

Simple thoughts from simple people
 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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Thought this was going to be a KFC thread. Instead it's fanatical right wing rantings grounded in half truths.

I R Disappoint.
 

CitizenKain

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China is a liberals wet dream, government control of the markets, strict controls on religion, no gun ownership, a state controlled media. If one the baby thing was flipped to killing boys instead of girls, it would be perfect.

When the adults are talking the children keep their mouth shut. Maybe you should learn that, obviously your parents were too worthless to teach that too you.
 

kage69

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Someone should tell James Wood that female infanticide is a cultural practice that's been around in China far longer than the Chinese government. It has nothing to do with government policies on anything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_infanticide_in_China

"The People's Republic of China and its predecessors have a history of female infanticide spanning 2000 years.[1] Worldwide, the practice of infanticide has been practiced since antiquity for the purpose of population control.[1] It is an unsanctioned method of family planning that has been condoned for centuries in the area until recent times.

And it doesn't change the fact that China's government has a more modern view on maternity leave than we do. That's embarrassing, Sanders is right. Silly Bernie, getting his info correct and not merging issues for the sake of expediency.
 
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bradley

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while Sanders' argument makes complete sense, it boggles my mind that a Presidential candidate would say that the US should look to China as an example on anything, regardless of whether or not he's technically right.

It wasn't necessary for James Woods to degenerate his opinion into the word "moron."

Otherwise, I have enough Chinese friends, some immigrants; they all tell me there are overwhelmingly more options, rights, liberties and freedoms in the US. Some come here with bags of money from China's economic boom looking for a better life. They say the only US downside is the lack of an overall cohesive family unit, of which I'm in full agreement.

'Whatever we can get away with' is China's real motto and the only example a foreigner like Bernie Sanders sees.
 

John Connor

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Bernie Sanders has said some batcrap crazy things (like that one time he claimed women fanaticize about being raped in his 1972 essay, “Man – And Woman.”)
That being said, I’d just like to remind everyone of that one time he praised Fidel Castro. And this isn’t the kind of thing where you can say, “Oh, that was a LONG time ago. You can’t dig that up and hold it against him!” No. As long as he’s singing the song of socialism, this is relevant. He still believes socialism rocks. Nothing has changed. And anyone who knows ANYTHING knows Cuba is the literal worst.


http://www.chicksonright.com/flashback-remember-that-one-time-bernie-sanders-praised-fidel-castro/


It's amazing. Obama plays chummy with Cuba all the while I hear their spy numbers station all the time on my shortwave radio.