'Coffee cup' test in job interviews to filter candidates is manipulative?

[MrSquished]

It doesn't seem like any projection is needed here...

If you can't respect individuals' right to an opinion, trying to cleam you respect labor and better their treatment is utter nonsense. All you really mean is, you're try to treat someone unfairly if they don't agree with you, which in this case means about 50% of the general population. Really? Find a pill to take.

PCgeek is pretty terrible in P&N, But you are downright horrific in there. You're closing in on Taj and Brandonbull levels of horribleness.

Your lack of self-awareness and decency is really fucking scary actually. I don't think anything can help you at this point.

By the way everybody's allowed their opinion. But we are allowed to call out when people have terrible ideas and values and bigotry and racism and all the things that exemplify the GQP today. And you are on the far side of the worst brother.

 

[Zeze]

Finally some action in this forum.

When I interview dudes and dudettes, I have so many Qs to cover. What a waste of time. I bet you find this behavior in sleazy sales or ops jobs.

 

[RPD]

When I was younger, I used to read stories (fictional & non-fictional) about people in hiring positions doing "creative" interview work like that & always enjoy the warm-fuzzies from them. Then I got a job managing a pizza restaurant. I cared about exactly 3 things on a daily basis:

1. Did you show up?
2. Did you show up on time?
3. Did you DO something?

Most job positions just require a warm body capable of delivering on the required tasks consistently. Some jobs have rockstars (Steve Jobs, Michael Jordan, etc.) but mostly it's just plug & chug across the board. Some of the best workers I know would fail every single one of these little mind-game tests, especially for people like me who are on the spectrum & have things like ADHD, Autism, etc. Those types of stories tend to judge people on the wrong characteristics required for having a good employee!

Because what people need is steady income & access to healthcare. Businesses need to make money to survive & employees need money to survive. I was just reading this article about how "some Tesla engineers secretly started designing a Cybertruck alternative because they 'hated' it; they didn't want to have anything to do with it":

Some Tesla engineers secretly started designing a Cybertruck alternative because they 'hated' it - Autoblog

"They were like, 'You can't be serious.' They didn't want to have anything to do with it," Franz von Holzhausen said, according to Walter Isaacson.

www.autoblog.com

And yet, people need jobs, so they gotta do what the boss wants if they want to keep their jobs:



Unfortunately, some people in hiring positions (HR people, managers, etc.) like to go on ego-boosting power-trips when hiring people, rather than focusing on getting the right person for the job (i.e. someone who shows up & works consistently, plays nice with others, is in it for the long haul, etc.).

These but I'd add another, did you show up in appropriate attire? Can not believe how some people showed up to interviews. Like, 100% not wanting someone in a suit or tie, but ffs, slacks, a nice button up shirt or polo tucked in too much to ask for?

 

[Kaido]

These but I'd add another, did you show up in appropriate attire? Can not believe how some people showed up to interviews. Like, 100% not wanting someone in a suit or tie, but ffs, slacks, a nice button up shirt or polo tucked in too much to ask for?

I've worked with HR for nearly 20 years & there are a VARIETY of reasons for this! First, some people really ARE unaware & just don't "get it". So there's a certain maturity level that people have to become self-aware enough to be presentable. Oddly enough however, this tends to have nearly zero impact on their ability to do a good job! Some of the best, most creative, hardest-working people simply don't have the ability or desired to pay attention to details like that! So again, it boils down to HR & managerial power plays & theatrics vs. hiring someone who plays well with others, shows up, and gets stuff done! I think a lot of people get bypassed because they don't fit the mold that HR or hiring managers expect, unfortunately!

Second, some people purposely show up looking unhirable! My buddy did this when he lost his job...he milked like a full year of unemployment out of it by showing up every month to his required job interviews (to show proof he was "trying") in his pajamas with unkempt hair, knowing that he'd be screened out immediately. It worked, and he thought he was gaming the system, but as it turns out, most human beings don't do well in isolation, so he ended up gaining 60 pounds and getting his days & nights mixed up, so he pretty much wrecked his health & his schedule all in the name of goofing off at home all day for free lol.

 

[RPD]

I've worked with HR for nearly 20 years & there are a VARIETY of reasons for this! First, some people really ARE unaware & just don't "get it". So there's a certain maturity level that people have to become self-aware enough to be presentable. Oddly enough however, this tends to have nearly zero impact on their ability to do a good job! Some of the best, most creative, hardest-working people simply don't have the ability or desired to pay attention to details like that! So again, it boils down to HR & managerial power plays & theatrics vs. hiring someone who plays well with others, shows up, and gets stuff done! I think a lot of people get bypassed because they don't fit the mold that HR or hiring managers expect, unfortunately!

Second, some people purposely show up looking unhirable! My buddy did this when he lost his job...he milked like a full year of unemployment out of it by showing up every month to his required job interviews (to show proof he was "trying") in his pajamas with unkempt hair, knowing that he'd be screened out immediately. It worked, and he thought he was gaming the system, but as it turns out, most human beings don't do well in isolation, so he ended up gaining 60 pounds and getting his days & nights mixed up, so he pretty much wrecked his health & his schedule all in the name of goofing off at home all day for free lol.

Exceptions to the rule exist, but I don't care how hard working someone is, I wouldn't impose someone with poor general hygenie on others in the office. Granted there is a distinction in poor hygenie and being presentable, but that's a venn diagram with a lot of overlap.

 

[AdamK47]

How to properly place your coffee cup at the end of an interview.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

I'd be less concerned about jeans and a t-shirt untucked than a face full of tats and piercings and giant loops in the earlobes.

While piercings might even be OK for some jobs, it could be a major safety issue for a something like welder.

 

[pcgeek11]

You say this:

When I interview someone for a position I always make sure that I ask them to come to the bathroom and wipe my ass for me after I take a dump.

That's my fucking test and I have the most loyal employees ever.

I stated that I believe you and then you call me shitty and claim to respect labor and want to treat them better.

What a load. LOL

As usual you are a Republican who projects their shittiness onto progressives, who actually respect labor and want to better their treatment.

At least you are consistent.

 

[nakedfrog]

You say this:



I stated that I believe you and then you call me shitty and claim to respect labor and want to treat them better.

What a load. LOL

Are you not clever enough to realize he was using hyperbole, mocking the guy from the article?

 

[pcgeek11]

Are you not clever enough to realize he was using hyperbole, mocking the guy from the article?

Is he ( and you ) not clever enough to realize that I was making fun of his stupid comment.

Reading his past postings it is believable he would have that type of attitude. He is one angry little man.

 

[nakedfrog]

Is he ( and you ) not clever enough to realize that I was making fun of his stupid comment.

Reading his past postings it is believable he would have that type of attitude. He is one angry little man.

Well, that's weird, because you then follow up by saying he doesn't respect labor, which only makes sense if you had taken it as a serious statement...

And yes, he's angry, and justifiably so. Maybe he goes a little too far, but his heart is in the right place (whereas you haven't got one on display).

 

[Red Squirrel]

I see a lot of "ignored content" in this thread lol. Who knew a cup of coffee could be so controversial.

 

[pcgeek11]

Well, that's weird, because you then follow up by saying he doesn't respect labor, which only makes sense if you had taken it as a serious statement...

And yes, he's angry, and justifiably so. Maybe he goes a little too far, but his heart is in the right place (whereas you haven't got one on display).

I didn't say he didn't respect labor, I said it was believable. He implied he didn't respect them in his post about asking them to wipe his ass for a job. Nobody would take that as a serious comment as he wouldn't have the balls to make such a demand. It is silly anyway.

Then he "claims" to respect them. It is clear from his posting history that he doesn't respect anyone or anything that doesn't agree 100% with his political positions.

Maybe he goes a little too far? Ha, Ha that is funny.

As they say in the South about someone in his condition: Well bless his little heart.

 

[MrSquished]

I didn't say he didn't respect labor, I said it was believable. He implied he didn't respect them in his post about asking them to wipe his ass for a job. Nobody would take that as a serious comment as he wouldn't have the balls to make such a demand. It is silly anyway.

Then he "claims" to respect them. It is clear from his posting history that he doesn't respect anyone or anything that doesn't agree 100% with his political positions.

Maybe he goes a little too far? Ha, Ha that is funny.

As they say in the South about someone in his condition: Well bless his little heart.

As usual you demonstrate a total lack of awareness and a total lack of self-awareness. This is why the tens of millions like you are so dangerous - you simply don't exist in reality - both outside in three dimensional land, nor inside your own selves.

I will always call out supporters of the current mid-stage Nazi political party and policies who is the only party you'll vote for when it counts. Mid-stage and further stage Nazis should have no safe forum to not be called out on. At this point the vast majority of the GQP party are mid-stage Nazis, and if you support any of those people in the party, which the majority of the GQP base does, like yourself, at this point we have no choice but to start calling out what you people are.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

I see a lot of "ignored content" in this thread lol. Who knew a cup of coffee could be so controversial.

They're gonna go off in a dark corner and start smooching soon.

 

[pcgeek11]

As usual you demonstrate a total lack of awareness and a total lack of self-awareness. This is why the tens of millions like you are so dangerous - you simply don't exist in reality - both outside in three dimensional land, nor inside your own selves.

I will always call out supporters of the current mid-stage Nazi political party and policies who is the only party you'll vote for when it counts. Mid-stage and further stage Nazis should have no safe forum to not be called out on. At this point the vast majority of the GQP party are mid-stage Nazis, and if you support any of those people in the party, which the majority of the GQP base does, like yourself, at this point we have no choice but to start calling out what you people are.

Go wipe your @SS.

I'm done with this silly thread.

LOL

 

[brianmanahan]

i bet future uses this trick when interviewing people for mod positions

it's why our mods are so good

 

[MrSquished]

Go wipe your @SS.

I'm done with this silly thread.

LOL

And I'm not done calling you people what you are in any forum. Mid-stage nazis should have no safe space.

 

[Kaido]

Exceptions to the rule exist, but I don't care how hard working someone is, I wouldn't impose someone with poor general hygenie on others in the office. Granted there is a distinction in poor hygenie and being presentable, but that's a venn diagram with a lot of overlap.

Oh sure, there's a big difference between proper attire & personal hygiene tho. Which is also one of the reasons I went freelance...don't have to wear a tie ever again lol!

 

[Kaido]

i bet future uses this trick when interviewing people for mod positions

it's why our mods are so good

 

[A///]

Sounds like bullshit. I don't drink coffee myself and I've never heard of anyone being offered coffee during an interview.Sounds like some millenial bullshit.

 

[Fritzo]

Jokes on him- I DON'T LIKE COFFEE

 

[brianmanahan]

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[BudAshes]

As usual you demonstrate a total lack of awareness and a total lack of self-awareness. This is why the tens of millions like you are so dangerous - you simply don't exist in reality - both outside in three dimensional land, nor inside your own selves.

I will always call out supporters of the current mid-stage Nazi political party and policies who is the only party you'll vote for when it counts. Mid-stage and further stage Nazis should have no safe forum to not be called out on. At this point the vast majority of the GQP party are mid-stage Nazis, and if you support any of those people in the party, which the majority of the GQP base does, like yourself, at this point we have no choice but to start calling out what you people are.

We need a banish to P&N button.

 

[MrSquished]

We need a banish to P&N button.

I've come to the realization that people that support the mid-stage Nazi Republican party today, They shouldn't have safe spaces.

I think we've tried that before in other parts of the world and it didn't work