Codey Makes It Illegal To Smoke In Bars...

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: SampSon

See my comments about the fumes the cars around you AND the ONE YOU'RE DRIVING are spewing everyday. Your EODP argument is pointless because if you intentionally spray me it is considered ASSULT and HARASSMENT.
You also have the amazing right of free will in public. If you don't like the smell of the area you're in you can walk away. If someone around me was spraying EODP (but not intentionally at me) I would make the educated decision to MOVE ON. You have all the right in the world to spray that EODP, but not directly at me with the intention of ASSULTING or HARASSING me. Can you grasp that in your ultimate intellect? If you don't believe me go ask your local police officer, they will tell you the same thing.

Most of your arguments are logical fallacies that you justify due to your lack of understanding.

See but that's my point. This is something that actually happened to me. There are so many damned smokers that you can't just walk away and go somewhere else. I walked all over the city and there were people smoking everywhere. It's very annoying.

If you think that it's okay. Then having a punch of people spraying crap randomly is okay too, even if it annoys the hell out of you.

That's life buddy! You still never answered my question, are you under twenty, over twenty or what?

 

[SampSon]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: SampSon

See my comments about the fumes the cars around you AND the ONE YOU'RE DRIVING are spewing everyday. Your EODP argument is pointless because if you intentionally spray me it is considered ASSULT and HARASSMENT.
You also have the amazing right of free will in public. If you don't like the smell of the area you're in you can walk away. If someone around me was spraying EODP (but not intentionally at me) I would make the educated decision to MOVE ON. You have all the right in the world to spray that EODP, but not directly at me with the intention of ASSULTING or HARASSING me. Can you grasp that in your ultimate intellect? If you don't believe me go ask your local police officer, they will tell you the same thing.

Most of your arguments are logical fallacies that you justify due to your lack of understanding.

See but that's my point. This is something that actually happened to me. There are so many damned smokers that you can't just walk away and go somewhere else. I walked all over the city and there were people smoking everywhere. It's very annoying.

If you think that it's okay. Then having a punch of people spraying crap randomly is okay too, even if it annoys the hell out of you.

So your point is that someone was INTENTIONALLY blowing smoke in your direction to harass you? Sure, then that person will be breaking the law. That is the only valid point you have made in this entire thread.
I've been in many major cities and there isn't a single one where you cannot find a place that doesn't smell like smoke due to smokers. You are just glorifying.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: SampSon

See my comments about the fumes the cars around you AND the ONE YOU'RE DRIVING are spewing everyday. Your EODP argument is pointless because if you intentionally spray me it is considered ASSULT and HARASSMENT.
You also have the amazing right of free will in public. If you don't like the smell of the area you're in you can walk away. If someone around me was spraying EODP (but not intentionally at me) I would make the educated decision to MOVE ON. You have all the right in the world to spray that EODP, but not directly at me with the intention of ASSULTING or HARASSING me. Can you grasp that in your ultimate intellect? If you don't believe me go ask your local police officer, they will tell you the same thing.

Most of your arguments are logical fallacies that you justify due to your lack of understanding.

See but that's my point. This is something that actually happened to me. There are so many damned smokers that you can't just walk away and go somewhere else. I walked all over the city and there were people smoking everywhere. It's very annoying.

If you think that it's okay. Then having a punch of people spraying crap randomly is okay too, even if it annoys the hell out of you.

That's life buddy! You still never answered my question, are you under twenty, over twenty or what?

Yeah...you say that until it happens to you all the time.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: SampSon

See my comments about the fumes the cars around you AND the ONE YOU'RE DRIVING are spewing everyday. Your EODP argument is pointless because if you intentionally spray me it is considered ASSULT and HARASSMENT.
You also have the amazing right of free will in public. If you don't like the smell of the area you're in you can walk away. If someone around me was spraying EODP (but not intentionally at me) I would make the educated decision to MOVE ON. You have all the right in the world to spray that EODP, but not directly at me with the intention of ASSULTING or HARASSING me. Can you grasp that in your ultimate intellect? If you don't believe me go ask your local police officer, they will tell you the same thing.

Most of your arguments are logical fallacies that you justify due to your lack of understanding.

See but that's my point. This is something that actually happened to me. There are so many damned smokers that you can't just walk away and go somewhere else. I walked all over the city and there were people smoking everywhere. It's very annoying.

If you think that it's okay. Then having a punch of people spraying crap randomly is okay too, even if it annoys the hell out of you.

That's life buddy! You still never answered my question, are you under twenty, over twenty or what?

Yeah...you say that until it happens to you all the time.

Tough sh!t. And you still haven't answered my question.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: SampSon

See my comments about the fumes the cars around you AND the ONE YOU'RE DRIVING are spewing everyday. Your EODP argument is pointless because if you intentionally spray me it is considered ASSULT and HARASSMENT.
You also have the amazing right of free will in public. If you don't like the smell of the area you're in you can walk away. If someone around me was spraying EODP (but not intentionally at me) I would make the educated decision to MOVE ON. You have all the right in the world to spray that EODP, but not directly at me with the intention of ASSULTING or HARASSING me. Can you grasp that in your ultimate intellect? If you don't believe me go ask your local police officer, they will tell you the same thing.

Most of your arguments are logical fallacies that you justify due to your lack of understanding.

See but that's my point. This is something that actually happened to me. There are so many damned smokers that you can't just walk away and go somewhere else. I walked all over the city and there were people smoking everywhere. It's very annoying.

If you think that it's okay. Then having a punch of people spraying crap randomly is okay too, even if it annoys the hell out of you.

So your point is that someone was INTENTIONALLY blowing smoke in your direction to harass you? Sure, then that person will be breaking the law. That is the only valid point you have made in this entire thread.
I've been in many major cities and there isn't a single one where you cannot find a place that doesn't smell like smoke due to smokers. You are just glorifying.

No I'm not just glorifying this. And no...nobody was doing it intentionally, however there numerous people who displayed serious lack of respect for others in their smoking habbits. I'm sure it wasn't intended to harass me, but that was the overall effect.

Sure you can find a place but if you are walking around going from place to place - shopping or doing other things - it isn't so easy.

Would you like it if you were walking around and random people all over the city were spewing something that smelled bad, caused you to cough and caused you to be short of breath? You would be okay with it? You wouldn't want something to be done?

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: SampSon

See my comments about the fumes the cars around you AND the ONE YOU'RE DRIVING are spewing everyday. Your EODP argument is pointless because if you intentionally spray me it is considered ASSULT and HARASSMENT.
You also have the amazing right of free will in public. If you don't like the smell of the area you're in you can walk away. If someone around me was spraying EODP (but not intentionally at me) I would make the educated decision to MOVE ON. You have all the right in the world to spray that EODP, but not directly at me with the intention of ASSULTING or HARASSING me. Can you grasp that in your ultimate intellect? If you don't believe me go ask your local police officer, they will tell you the same thing.

Most of your arguments are logical fallacies that you justify due to your lack of understanding.

See but that's my point. This is something that actually happened to me. There are so many damned smokers that you can't just walk away and go somewhere else. I walked all over the city and there were people smoking everywhere. It's very annoying.

If you think that it's okay. Then having a punch of people spraying crap randomly is okay too, even if it annoys the hell out of you.

That's life buddy! You still never answered my question, are you under twenty, over twenty or what?

Yeah...you say that until it happens to you all the time.

Tough sh!t. And you still haven't answered my question.

Your question isirrelevant.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: SampSon

See my comments about the fumes the cars around you AND the ONE YOU'RE DRIVING are spewing everyday. Your EODP argument is pointless because if you intentionally spray me it is considered ASSULT and HARASSMENT.
You also have the amazing right of free will in public. If you don't like the smell of the area you're in you can walk away. If someone around me was spraying EODP (but not intentionally at me) I would make the educated decision to MOVE ON. You have all the right in the world to spray that EODP, but not directly at me with the intention of ASSULTING or HARASSING me. Can you grasp that in your ultimate intellect? If you don't believe me go ask your local police officer, they will tell you the same thing.

Most of your arguments are logical fallacies that you justify due to your lack of understanding.

See but that's my point. This is something that actually happened to me. There are so many damned smokers that you can't just walk away and go somewhere else. I walked all over the city and there were people smoking everywhere. It's very annoying.

If you think that it's okay. Then having a punch of people spraying crap randomly is okay too, even if it annoys the hell out of you.

So your point is that someone was INTENTIONALLY blowing smoke in your direction to harass you? Sure, then that person will be breaking the law. That is the only valid point you have made in this entire thread.
I've been in many major cities and there isn't a single one where you cannot find a place that doesn't smell like smoke due to smokers. You are just glorifying.

No I'm not just glorifying this. And no...nobody was doing it intentionally, however there numerous people who displayed serious lack of respect for others in their smoking habbits. I'm sure it wasn't intended to harass me, but that was the overall effect.

Sure you can find a place but if you are walking around going from place to place - shopping or doing other things - it isn't so easy.

Would you like it if you were walking around and random people all over the city were spewing something that smelled bad, caused you to cough and caused you to be short of breath?

If it was nearly as bad as you say it is, your body would've already adapted to it.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: SampSon

See my comments about the fumes the cars around you AND the ONE YOU'RE DRIVING are spewing everyday. Your EODP argument is pointless because if you intentionally spray me it is considered ASSULT and HARASSMENT.
You also have the amazing right of free will in public. If you don't like the smell of the area you're in you can walk away. If someone around me was spraying EODP (but not intentionally at me) I would make the educated decision to MOVE ON. You have all the right in the world to spray that EODP, but not directly at me with the intention of ASSULTING or HARASSING me. Can you grasp that in your ultimate intellect? If you don't believe me go ask your local police officer, they will tell you the same thing.

Most of your arguments are logical fallacies that you justify due to your lack of understanding.

See but that's my point. This is something that actually happened to me. There are so many damned smokers that you can't just walk away and go somewhere else. I walked all over the city and there were people smoking everywhere. It's very annoying.

If you think that it's okay. Then having a punch of people spraying crap randomly is okay too, even if it annoys the hell out of you.

So your point is that someone was INTENTIONALLY blowing smoke in your direction to harass you? Sure, then that person will be breaking the law. That is the only valid point you have made in this entire thread.
I've been in many major cities and there isn't a single one where you cannot find a place that doesn't smell like smoke due to smokers. You are just glorifying.

No I'm not just glorifying this. And no...nobody was doing it intentionally, however there numerous people who displayed serious lack of respect for others in their smoking habbits. I'm sure it wasn't intended to harass me, but that was the overall effect.

Sure you can find a place but if you are walking around going from place to place - shopping or doing other things - it isn't so easy.

Would you like it if you were walking around and random people all over the city were spewing something that smelled bad, caused you to cough and caused you to be short of breath?

If it was nearly as bad as you say it is, your body would've already adapted to it.

Let's see your body adapt to AIDS then. Sure...you've had it for a long time! ADAPT ALREADY!

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: OdiN
Your question isirrelevant.

I'm going to take that to mean lower than twenty, and by your arguments possibly quite a bit lower. Grow up a little bit, learn social skills and that there are things out there that people do that you just have to suck up and live with in order for us to all live together without killing each other. People smoking cigarettes is just one of those things.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: SampSon

See my comments about the fumes the cars around you AND the ONE YOU'RE DRIVING are spewing everyday. Your EODP argument is pointless because if you intentionally spray me it is considered ASSULT and HARASSMENT.
You also have the amazing right of free will in public. If you don't like the smell of the area you're in you can walk away. If someone around me was spraying EODP (but not intentionally at me) I would make the educated decision to MOVE ON. You have all the right in the world to spray that EODP, but not directly at me with the intention of ASSULTING or HARASSING me. Can you grasp that in your ultimate intellect? If you don't believe me go ask your local police officer, they will tell you the same thing.

Most of your arguments are logical fallacies that you justify due to your lack of understanding.

See but that's my point. This is something that actually happened to me. There are so many damned smokers that you can't just walk away and go somewhere else. I walked all over the city and there were people smoking everywhere. It's very annoying.

If you think that it's okay. Then having a punch of people spraying crap randomly is okay too, even if it annoys the hell out of you.

So your point is that someone was INTENTIONALLY blowing smoke in your direction to harass you? Sure, then that person will be breaking the law. That is the only valid point you have made in this entire thread.
I've been in many major cities and there isn't a single one where you cannot find a place that doesn't smell like smoke due to smokers. You are just glorifying.

No I'm not just glorifying this. And no...nobody was doing it intentionally, however there numerous people who displayed serious lack of respect for others in their smoking habbits. I'm sure it wasn't intended to harass me, but that was the overall effect.

Sure you can find a place but if you are walking around going from place to place - shopping or doing other things - it isn't so easy.

Would you like it if you were walking around and random people all over the city were spewing something that smelled bad, caused you to cough and caused you to be short of breath?

If it was nearly as bad as you say it is, your body would've already adapted to it.

Let's see your body adapt to AIDS then. Sure...you've had it for a long time! ADAPT ALREADY!

Holy ******. Your logic, or lack of, is absolutely astounding.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova

Originally posted by: OdiN
Your question isirrelevant.

I'm going to take that to mean lower than twenty, and by your arguments possibly quite a bit lower. Grow up a little bit, learn social skills and that there are things out there that people do that you just have to suck up and live with in order for us to all live together without killing each other. People smoking cigarettes is just one of those things.

Well you would be wrong.

Why should I have to accept people doing something that casues physical problems to me while they show no concern nor respect about it? That's not exactly social skills.

Excuse me for thinking that the people who have the bad habbit should have to live with the consequences of that bad habbit?

Why should it be one way but not the other?

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: SampSon

See my comments about the fumes the cars around you AND the ONE YOU'RE DRIVING are spewing everyday. Your EODP argument is pointless because if you intentionally spray me it is considered ASSULT and HARASSMENT.
You also have the amazing right of free will in public. If you don't like the smell of the area you're in you can walk away. If someone around me was spraying EODP (but not intentionally at me) I would make the educated decision to MOVE ON. You have all the right in the world to spray that EODP, but not directly at me with the intention of ASSULTING or HARASSING me. Can you grasp that in your ultimate intellect? If you don't believe me go ask your local police officer, they will tell you the same thing.

Most of your arguments are logical fallacies that you justify due to your lack of understanding.

See but that's my point. This is something that actually happened to me. There are so many damned smokers that you can't just walk away and go somewhere else. I walked all over the city and there were people smoking everywhere. It's very annoying.

If you think that it's okay. Then having a punch of people spraying crap randomly is okay too, even if it annoys the hell out of you.

So your point is that someone was INTENTIONALLY blowing smoke in your direction to harass you? Sure, then that person will be breaking the law. That is the only valid point you have made in this entire thread.
I've been in many major cities and there isn't a single one where you cannot find a place that doesn't smell like smoke due to smokers. You are just glorifying.

No I'm not just glorifying this. And no...nobody was doing it intentionally, however there numerous people who displayed serious lack of respect for others in their smoking habbits. I'm sure it wasn't intended to harass me, but that was the overall effect.

Sure you can find a place but if you are walking around going from place to place - shopping or doing other things - it isn't so easy.

Would you like it if you were walking around and random people all over the city were spewing something that smelled bad, caused you to cough and caused you to be short of breath?

If it was nearly as bad as you say it is, your body would've already adapted to it.

Let's see your body adapt to AIDS then. Sure...you've had it for a long time! ADAPT ALREADY!

Holy ******. Your logic, or lack of, is absolutely astounding.

I was showing you how illogical your statement was.

Oh sure...I'm sure that my body will just adapt! Yes...because your knowledge of everything in the medical realm tells you this.

 

[Indolent]

I'm just curious...

do people who are against this law have a problem with the smoking ban on airplanes too?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

No I'm not just glorifying this. And no...nobody was doing it intentionally, however there numerous people who displayed serious lack of respect for others in their smoking habbits. I'm sure it wasn't intended to harass me, but that was the overall effect.

Sure you can find a place but if you are walking around going from place to place - shopping or doing other things - it isn't so easy.

Would you like it if you were walking around and random people all over the city were spewing something that smelled bad, caused you to cough and caused you to be short of breath?

If it was nearly as bad as you say it is, your body would've already adapted to it.

Let's see your body adapt to AIDS then. Sure...you've had it for a long time! ADAPT ALREADY!

Holy ******. Your logic, or lack of, is absolutely astounding.

I was showing you how illogical your statement was.

Oh sure...I'm sure that my body will just adapt! Yes...because your knowledge of everything in the medical realm tells you this.

If you're introduced to irritants (such as smoke or pollution for example), your body will normally adapt to the presence of them and you will not nearly be as irritated by them as you first were.

There was nothing illogical about my statement.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

No I'm not just glorifying this. And no...nobody was doing it intentionally, however there numerous people who displayed serious lack of respect for others in their smoking habbits. I'm sure it wasn't intended to harass me, but that was the overall effect.

Sure you can find a place but if you are walking around going from place to place - shopping or doing other things - it isn't so easy.

Would you like it if you were walking around and random people all over the city were spewing something that smelled bad, caused you to cough and caused you to be short of breath?

If it was nearly as bad as you say it is, your body would've already adapted to it.

Let's see your body adapt to AIDS then. Sure...you've had it for a long time! ADAPT ALREADY!

Holy ******. Your logic, or lack of, is absolutely astounding.

I was showing you how illogical your statement was.

Oh sure...I'm sure that my body will just adapt! Yes...because your knowledge of everything in the medical realm tells you this.

If you're introduced to irritants (such as smoke or pollution for example), your body will normally adapt to the presence of them and you will not nearly be as irritated by them as you first were.

There was nothing illogical about my statement.

Oh...OF COURSE!!! So that explains why this hasn't yet happened?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

No I'm not just glorifying this. And no...nobody was doing it intentionally, however there numerous people who displayed serious lack of respect for others in their smoking habbits. I'm sure it wasn't intended to harass me, but that was the overall effect.

Sure you can find a place but if you are walking around going from place to place - shopping or doing other things - it isn't so easy.

Would you like it if you were walking around and random people all over the city were spewing something that smelled bad, caused you to cough and caused you to be short of breath?

If it was nearly as bad as you say it is, your body would've already adapted to it.

Let's see your body adapt to AIDS then. Sure...you've had it for a long time! ADAPT ALREADY!

Holy ******. Your logic, or lack of, is absolutely astounding.

I was showing you how illogical your statement was.

Oh sure...I'm sure that my body will just adapt! Yes...because your knowledge of everything in the medical realm tells you this.

If you're introduced to irritants (such as smoke or pollution for example), your body will normally adapt to the presence of them and you will not nearly be as irritated by them as you first were.

There was nothing illogical about my statement.

Oh...OF COURSE!!! So that explains why this hasn't yet happened?

Or it could explain how far of an exaggeration you're actually making.

Also, if it's an actual allergy to smoke as opposed to just an irritant, that could be one reason why your body won't adapt.

 

[SampSon]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: SampSon

See my comments about the fumes the cars around you AND the ONE YOU'RE DRIVING are spewing everyday. Your EODP argument is pointless because if you intentionally spray me it is considered ASSULT and HARASSMENT.
You also have the amazing right of free will in public. If you don't like the smell of the area you're in you can walk away. If someone around me was spraying EODP (but not intentionally at me) I would make the educated decision to MOVE ON. You have all the right in the world to spray that EODP, but not directly at me with the intention of ASSULTING or HARASSING me. Can you grasp that in your ultimate intellect? If you don't believe me go ask your local police officer, they will tell you the same thing.

Most of your arguments are logical fallacies that you justify due to your lack of understanding.

See but that's my point. This is something that actually happened to me. There are so many damned smokers that you can't just walk away and go somewhere else. I walked all over the city and there were people smoking everywhere. It's very annoying.

If you think that it's okay. Then having a punch of people spraying crap randomly is okay too, even if it annoys the hell out of you.

That's life buddy! You still never answered my question, are you under twenty, over twenty or what?

Yeah...you say that until it happens to you all the time.

Blah blah blah, now you're grasping at straws. I've been a non smoker for YEARS and that never happened to me. I've probably been a non smoker before you were even out of grade school. I can nearly guarantee that I've had more years on this planet than you and crossed paths with many more people in many more areas than you ever have so I know your argument is pure BS.

Your EODS is irrelevant due to many factors that have been outlined in previous posts. Your arguments about private vs personal property have been shot down in previous posts. Your points about air quality due to smokers in cars have been nullified due to the fact that they are so asinine given the situation. All of your arguments are based purely on opinion that is fueld by lack of understanding of reality.

I really need to get to bed now because I have to get up and go to my big boy job and just cannot continue this moronic "debate" any further.

Let's leave it at this:
You should just state that you do not like smoking and that is the only reason why you support smoking bans. Your arguments are based solely on your opinion of the subject and have no relation to personal/private property laws or factual assertions.

I fully accept that you do not like smoking and do not want to be around it. I also accept that you have a right to not be around smoking in any form (which is covered under personal/private property laws). I can also accept that smoking can be annoying to non smokers, but that does not change the reality of private/personal property laws (no matter how much you think it does).

So it's been fun watchin you get torn apart by smokers and non smokers alike, but I must depart your morally righteous company for the warm confines of my feather top bed.

I bid you good night.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

No I'm not just glorifying this. And no...nobody was doing it intentionally, however there numerous people who displayed serious lack of respect for others in their smoking habbits. I'm sure it wasn't intended to harass me, but that was the overall effect.

Sure you can find a place but if you are walking around going from place to place - shopping or doing other things - it isn't so easy.

Would you like it if you were walking around and random people all over the city were spewing something that smelled bad, caused you to cough and caused you to be short of breath?

If it was nearly as bad as you say it is, your body would've already adapted to it.

Let's see your body adapt to AIDS then. Sure...you've had it for a long time! ADAPT ALREADY!

Holy ******. Your logic, or lack of, is absolutely astounding.

I was showing you how illogical your statement was.

Oh sure...I'm sure that my body will just adapt! Yes...because your knowledge of everything in the medical realm tells you this.

If you're introduced to irritants (such as smoke or pollution for example), your body will normally adapt to the presence of them and you will not nearly be as irritated by them as you first were.

There was nothing illogical about my statement.

Oh...OF COURSE!!! So that explains why this hasn't yet happened?

Or it could explain how far of an exaggeration you're actually making.

Also, if it's an actual allergy to smoke as opposed to just an irritant, that could be one reason why your body won't adapt.

So that's my fault...and I should just live with it instead of expecting smokers to be considerate to others. Yeah....no thanks.

I am not exaggerating. I have already stated that.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

No I'm not just glorifying this. And no...nobody was doing it intentionally, however there numerous people who displayed serious lack of respect for others in their smoking habbits. I'm sure it wasn't intended to harass me, but that was the overall effect.

Sure you can find a place but if you are walking around going from place to place - shopping or doing other things - it isn't so easy.

Would you like it if you were walking around and random people all over the city were spewing something that smelled bad, caused you to cough and caused you to be short of breath?

If it was nearly as bad as you say it is, your body would've already adapted to it.

Let's see your body adapt to AIDS then. Sure...you've had it for a long time! ADAPT ALREADY!

Holy ******. Your logic, or lack of, is absolutely astounding.

I was showing you how illogical your statement was.

Oh sure...I'm sure that my body will just adapt! Yes...because your knowledge of everything in the medical realm tells you this.

If you're introduced to irritants (such as smoke or pollution for example), your body will normally adapt to the presence of them and you will not nearly be as irritated by them as you first were.

There was nothing illogical about my statement.

Oh...OF COURSE!!! So that explains why this hasn't yet happened?

Or it could explain how far of an exaggeration you're actually making.

Also, if it's an actual allergy to smoke as opposed to just an irritant, that could be one reason why your body won't adapt.

So that's my fault...and I should just live with it instead of expecting smokers to be considerate to others. Yeah....no thanks.

I am not exaggerating. I have already stated that.

Oh really? So just because you say that you're not exaggerating, we should just believe you. Why sure then!

And no, it's not your fault. But don't expect everyone to cater to your problem, especially on private property.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: SampSon

See my comments about the fumes the cars around you AND the ONE YOU'RE DRIVING are spewing everyday. Your EODP argument is pointless because if you intentionally spray me it is considered ASSULT and HARASSMENT.
You also have the amazing right of free will in public. If you don't like the smell of the area you're in you can walk away. If someone around me was spraying EODP (but not intentionally at me) I would make the educated decision to MOVE ON. You have all the right in the world to spray that EODP, but not directly at me with the intention of ASSULTING or HARASSING me. Can you grasp that in your ultimate intellect? If you don't believe me go ask your local police officer, they will tell you the same thing.

Most of your arguments are logical fallacies that you justify due to your lack of understanding.

See but that's my point. This is something that actually happened to me. There are so many damned smokers that you can't just walk away and go somewhere else. I walked all over the city and there were people smoking everywhere. It's very annoying.

If you think that it's okay. Then having a punch of people spraying crap randomly is okay too, even if it annoys the hell out of you.

That's life buddy! You still never answered my question, are you under twenty, over twenty or what?

Yeah...you say that until it happens to you all the time.

Blah blah blah, now you're grasping at straws. I've been a non smoker for YEARS and that never happened to me. I've probably been a non smoker before you were even out of grade school. I can nearly guarantee that I've had more years on this planet than you and crossed paths with many more people in many more areas than you ever have so I know your argument is pure BS.

Your EODS is irrelevant due to many factors that have been outlined in previous posts. Your arguments about private vs personal property have been shot down in previous posts. Your points about air quality due to smokers in cars have been nullified due to the fact that they are so asinine given the situation. All of your arguments are based purely on opinion that is fueld by lack of understanding of reality.

I really need to get to bed now because I have to get up and go to my big boy job and just cannot continue this moronic "debate" any further.

Let's leave it at this:
You should just state that you do not like smoking and that is the only reason why you support smoking bans. Your arguments are based solely on your opinion of the subject and have no relation to personal/private property laws or factual assertions.

I fully accept that you do not like smoking and do not want to be around it. I also accept that you have a right to not be around smoking in any form (which is covered under personal/private property laws). I can also accept that smoking can be annoying to non smokers, but that does not change the reality of private/personal property laws (no matter how much you think it does).

So it's been fun watchin you get torn apart by smokers and non smokers alike, but I must depart your morally righteous company for the warm confines of my feather top bed.

I bid you good night.

I laugh at you.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

No I'm not just glorifying this. And no...nobody was doing it intentionally, however there numerous people who displayed serious lack of respect for others in their smoking habbits. I'm sure it wasn't intended to harass me, but that was the overall effect.

Sure you can find a place but if you are walking around going from place to place - shopping or doing other things - it isn't so easy.

Would you like it if you were walking around and random people all over the city were spewing something that smelled bad, caused you to cough and caused you to be short of breath?

If it was nearly as bad as you say it is, your body would've already adapted to it.

Let's see your body adapt to AIDS then. Sure...you've had it for a long time! ADAPT ALREADY!

Holy ******. Your logic, or lack of, is absolutely astounding.

I was showing you how illogical your statement was.

Oh sure...I'm sure that my body will just adapt! Yes...because your knowledge of everything in the medical realm tells you this.

If you're introduced to irritants (such as smoke or pollution for example), your body will normally adapt to the presence of them and you will not nearly be as irritated by them as you first were.

There was nothing illogical about my statement.

Oh...OF COURSE!!! So that explains why this hasn't yet happened?

Or it could explain how far of an exaggeration you're actually making.

Also, if it's an actual allergy to smoke as opposed to just an irritant, that could be one reason why your body won't adapt.

So that's my fault...and I should just live with it instead of expecting smokers to be considerate to others. Yeah....no thanks.

I am not exaggerating. I have already stated that.

Oh really? So just because you say that you're not exaggerating, we should just believe you. Why sure then!

And no, it's not your fault. But don't expect everyone to cater to your problem, especially on private property.

So if they shouldn't cater to my problem - why should we cater to smokers' problem?

And yes really you should just believe that. I am not a liar.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Indolent
I'm just curious...

do people who are against this law have a problem with the smoking ban on airplanes too?

Looking at it objectively, it's pretty much the same thing.

I'm sure an Airlines would offer non-smoking, and smoking flights. Or at the very least offer a smoking and non-smoking segmented sections, with ventilation in between.

If an airline wants to allow smokers on the plane (besides the HUGE safety risk it presents), then sure, allow them.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

No I'm not just glorifying this. And no...nobody was doing it intentionally, however there numerous people who displayed serious lack of respect for others in their smoking habbits. I'm sure it wasn't intended to harass me, but that was the overall effect.

Sure you can find a place but if you are walking around going from place to place - shopping or doing other things - it isn't so easy.

Would you like it if you were walking around and random people all over the city were spewing something that smelled bad, caused you to cough and caused you to be short of breath?

If it was nearly as bad as you say it is, your body would've already adapted to it.

Let's see your body adapt to AIDS then. Sure...you've had it for a long time! ADAPT ALREADY!

Holy ******. Your logic, or lack of, is absolutely astounding.

I was showing you how illogical your statement was.

Oh sure...I'm sure that my body will just adapt! Yes...because your knowledge of everything in the medical realm tells you this.

If you're introduced to irritants (such as smoke or pollution for example), your body will normally adapt to the presence of them and you will not nearly be as irritated by them as you first were.

There was nothing illogical about my statement.

Oh...OF COURSE!!! So that explains why this hasn't yet happened?

Or it could explain how far of an exaggeration you're actually making.

Also, if it's an actual allergy to smoke as opposed to just an irritant, that could be one reason why your body won't adapt.

So that's my fault...and I should just live with it instead of expecting smokers to be considerate to others. Yeah....no thanks.

I am not exaggerating. I have already stated that.

Oh really? So just because you say that you're not exaggerating, we should just believe you. Why sure then!

And no, it's not your fault. But don't expect everyone to cater to your problem, especially on private property.

So if they shouldn't cater to my problem - why should we cater to smokers' problem?

And yes really you should just believe that. I am not a liar.

You have the absolute hardest time grasping the concept of private property.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: OdiN

No I'm not just glorifying this. And no...nobody was doing it intentionally, however there numerous people who displayed serious lack of respect for others in their smoking habbits. I'm sure it wasn't intended to harass me, but that was the overall effect.

Sure you can find a place but if you are walking around going from place to place - shopping or doing other things - it isn't so easy.

Would you like it if you were walking around and random people all over the city were spewing something that smelled bad, caused you to cough and caused you to be short of breath?

If it was nearly as bad as you say it is, your body would've already adapted to it.

Let's see your body adapt to AIDS then. Sure...you've had it for a long time! ADAPT ALREADY!

Holy ******. Your logic, or lack of, is absolutely astounding.

I was showing you how illogical your statement was.

Oh sure...I'm sure that my body will just adapt! Yes...because your knowledge of everything in the medical realm tells you this.

If you're introduced to irritants (such as smoke or pollution for example), your body will normally adapt to the presence of them and you will not nearly be as irritated by them as you first were.

There was nothing illogical about my statement.

Oh...OF COURSE!!! So that explains why this hasn't yet happened?

Or it could explain how far of an exaggeration you're actually making.

Also, if it's an actual allergy to smoke as opposed to just an irritant, that could be one reason why your body won't adapt.

So that's my fault...and I should just live with it instead of expecting smokers to be considerate to others. Yeah....no thanks.

I am not exaggerating. I have already stated that.

Oh really? So just because you say that you're not exaggerating, we should just believe you. Why sure then!

And no, it's not your fault. But don't expect everyone to cater to your problem, especially on private property.

So if they shouldn't cater to my problem - why should we cater to smokers' problem?

And yes really you should just believe that. I am not a liar.

You have the absolute hardest time grasping the concept of private property.

I'm not even talking about private property....what I said has nothing to do with it. Why are you bringing it up.

Simply why should we cater to one thing but not the other?

That would be considered discrimination.

 

[SampSon]

I laugh at you.

That's ok, everyone else is laughing at you kid and I really can't take someone who is my much younger siblings comtemporary very seriously.