Codey Makes It Illegal To Smoke In Bars...

[Vic]

Originally posted by: eits
ok... so, how is that any different principally than a privately owned bar?

The public literally owns the road. Duh.

unfortunately, it's way harder for a woman to find a job if she's pregnant than if she already had the job and became pregnant.

An employer cannot refuse to hire a pregnant woman because of her pregnancy, because of a pregnancy-related condition or because of the prejudices of co-workers, clients, or customers.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: SampSon

states have emissions tests for cars in order for them to be driven, even though cars are privately owned.

You only need the tests done if the car is to be registered to drive on "public" (read: state/municipality owned) roads.

ok... so, how is that any different principally than a privately owned bar?

Originally posted by: SampSon

who's going to hire a pregnant woman? if the lady's pregnant and already has a job at the place, chances are that she's working there because jobs are hard to come by and this job was the best she could find.

Waitress jobs are a dime a dozen. Low paying jobs like the ones people are citing are a dime a dozen. Pregnant women are hired all the time for these types of jobs. Where pregnancy becomes an issue is at a more permanent salaried position where she plays a more important role in business operations and health care costs are covered by the company.

unfortunately, it's way harder for a woman to find a job if she's pregnant than if she already had the job and became pregnant.

She won't be working for much longer if she's pregnant anyway. Also if a pregnant women knew it was a smoking establishment and still worked there, that is her problem.

Fortunatly this world doesn't revolve around pregnant women!

fortunately, neither does it around people with a disgusting, imposing, unhealthy, selfish habit. thank God the government's finally stepping in to piss people like you off by trying to create more healthy environments.

 

[aberdeen5]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
It's nice to sit down to a meal and not be annoyed by someone else's cigarette smoke wafting in my face.

And I actually agree with you on this point. Even as a smoker, I just don't like the smoke around while I eat.

Except that I'm a resourceful enough person to find restaurants that don't allow smoking. I don't go somewhere that I know allows it - then sit at the bar which I know is the smoking area - and then go elect a fascist a$$hole like Codey.

But then again, I would never live on the east or west coast where fascism is becoming so abundant so I guess I don't have to worry about it at all, right? Thats where i find your logic flawed. Your either for it or against it. Sure this law doesn't affect you, but someday there will be a law that affects your freedom. As soon as you start allowing the government to take away freedoms, your throwing your own away. So you should be against this law, even though it doesn't affect you - if your truly for the freedoms we were once alotted in this country.

He wasn't elected <=== NJ smoker

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: eits
fortunately, neither does it around people with a disgusting, imposing, unhealthy, selfish habit. thank God the government's finally stepping in to piss people like you off by trying to create more healthy environments.

As an ex-smoker (which means I find cigarette smoke a billion times more repulsive than any non-smoker, I'm sure other ex-smokers will back me up on this) and an mid-30s adult who is actually old enough to go inside bars legally (which you are not), I can't say who I find more disgusting, imposing, unhealthy, and selfish -- smokers or busybodies. I mean that. Really and truly. The greatest moment in world history IMO was when the Founding Fathers staged a revolution to piss off people like you and put you in your place, and the saddest is the way your kind keep getting revenge for that.

 

[SampSon]

fortunately, neither does it around people with a disgusting, imposing, unhealthy, selfish habit. thank God the government's finally stepping in to piss people like you off by trying to create more healthy environments.

What are people like me?

People that do not support the removal of other people's rights even though they do not participate in said activity? Yea, the world needs less of us crazy people concerned about everyone's rights and not just their own opinion. Imagine how perfect the world would be if everyone only supported something because they were involved in it. Pure utopia!

I do not need a government to tell me what is healthy and what is not. I do not need a government to make decisions for me. If you can't make common sense decisions on your own, then you're a failure.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: eits
ok... so, how is that any different principally than a privately owned bar?

The public literally owns the road. Duh.

so, basically, i'm part owner of the road? i'll be sure to remind the next cop that pulls me over for speeding.

many roads are owned by the state and local governments. however, you can adopt stretches of road or privately own stretches of road.... the thing is that you still need to pass emissions tests in order to drive on them.

Originally posted by: Vic

unfortunately, it's way harder for a woman to find a job if she's pregnant than if she already had the job and became pregnant.

An employer cannot refuse to hire a pregnant woman because of her pregnancy, because of a pregnancy-related condition or because of the prejudices of co-workers, clients, or customers.

yeah, i know. however, that still doesn't mean that the employer hires them. in a perfect world, there wouldn't be discrimination or refusal to hire pregnant women. it's still hard for pregnant women to find work.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: eits
fortunately, neither does it around people with a disgusting, imposing, unhealthy, selfish habit. thank God the government's finally stepping in to piss people like you off by trying to create more healthy environments.

As an ex-smoker (which means I find cigarette smoke a billion times more repulsive than any non-smoker, I'm sure other ex-smokers will back me up on this) and an mid-30s adult who is actually old enough to go inside bars legally (which you are not), I can't say who I find more disgusting, imposing, unhealthy, and selfish -- smokers or busybodies. I mean that. Really and truly. The greatest moment in world history IMO was when the Founding Fathers staged a revolution to piss off people like you and put you in your place, and the saddest is the way your kind keep getting revenge for that.

i stopped reading after "cigarette".... you bore me.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: SampSon

fortunately, neither does it around people with a disgusting, imposing, unhealthy, selfish habit. thank God the government's finally stepping in to piss people like you off by trying to create more healthy environments.

What are people like me?

People that do not support the removal of other people's rights even though they do not participate in said activity? Yea, the world needs less of us crazy people concerned about everyone's rights and not just their own opinion. Imagine how perfect the world would be if everyone only supported something because they were involved in it. Pure utopia!

I do not need a government to tell me what is healthy and what is not. I do not need a government to make decisions for me. If you can't make common sense decisions on your own, then you're a failure.

well, then i'm glad you acknowledge being a failure.

 

[SampSon]

so, basically, i'm part owner of the road? i'll be sure to remind the next cop that pulls me over for speeding.

many roads are owned by the state and local governments. however, you can adopt stretches of road or privately own stretches of road.... the thing is that you still need to pass emissions tests in order to drive on them.

Privately owned roads are due to conditions of the deed to the land on which the road exists. The municipality in which the private road exists usually has zoning restrictions for these private roads that make all local/state laws apply to the road. I deal with this all the time for work.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: SampSon

fortunately, neither does it around people with a disgusting, imposing, unhealthy, selfish habit. thank God the government's finally stepping in to piss people like you off by trying to create more healthy environments.

What are people like me?

People that do not support the removal of other people's rights even though they do not participate in said activity? Yea, the world needs less of us crazy people concerned about everyone's rights and not just their own opinion. Imagine how perfect the world would be if everyone only supported something because they were involved in it. Pure utopia!

I do not need a government to tell me what is healthy and what is not. I do not need a government to make decisions for me. If you can't make common sense decisions on your own, then you're a failure.

This isn't about government making common sense decisions for people, SampSon. That's just their smokescreen. This is about spite and revenge. This is about sticking it to those nasty smokers, the latest pariah group. This is about not coming home from the bar smelling like the bar, and getting back at those smoking pariahs who did that to you in the past. This is what I call "Fsck Your Neighbor" politics. To the low-browed, it feels good to hate and victimize others. The reason he assumes you must be a smoker is because otherwise he can't understand why you won't join in on the communal hate-fest.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: eits
ok... so, how is that any different principally than a privately owned bar?

The public literally owns the road. Duh.

so, basically, i'm part owner of the road? i'll be sure to remind the next cop that pulls me over for speeding.

many roads are owned by the state and local governments. however, you can adopt stretches of road or privately own stretches of road.... the thing is that you still need to pass emissions tests in order to drive on them.

Are you old enough to drive yet? And how many roads are privately owned? Those signs on the side of the road that say they had been adopted by boyscout troop No. 4177 Just means that they volunteered to pick up trash on them, not that they own them. lol

 

[SampSon]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: SampSon

fortunately, neither does it around people with a disgusting, imposing, unhealthy, selfish habit. thank God the government's finally stepping in to piss people like you off by trying to create more healthy environments.

What are people like me?

People that do not support the removal of other people's rights even though they do not participate in said activity? Yea, the world needs less of us crazy people concerned about everyone's rights and not just their own opinion. Imagine how perfect the world would be if everyone only supported something because they were involved in it. Pure utopia!

I do not need a government to tell me what is healthy and what is not. I do not need a government to make decisions for me. If you can't make common sense decisions on your own, then you're a failure.

well, then i'm glad you acknowledge being a failure.

*yawn* You're getting about as creative as mosquerade and the other's involved in circular logic arguments.

Common sense tells you that an owner of a business should be able to make the decision to allow smoking or not. The patrons have to make the common sense decision to patronize the establishment or not.

I understand thinking is very hard for you at such pre-pubescent age but don't worry, you'll grow out of it. Someday you'll care about more things than just yourself, if you ever make it that far.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: eits
ok... so, how is that any different principally than a privately owned bar?

The public literally owns the road. Duh.

so, basically, i'm part owner of the road? i'll be sure to remind the next cop that pulls me over for speeding.

many roads are owned by the state and local governments. however, you can adopt stretches of road or privately own stretches of road.... the thing is that you still need to pass emissions tests in order to drive on them.

Originally posted by: Vic

unfortunately, it's way harder for a woman to find a job if she's pregnant than if she already had the job and became pregnant.

An employer cannot refuse to hire a pregnant woman because of her pregnancy, because of a pregnancy-related condition or because of the prejudices of co-workers, clients, or customers.

yeah, i know. however, that still doesn't mean that the employer hires them. in a perfect world, there wouldn't be discrimination or refusal to hire pregnant women. it's still hard for pregnant women to find work.

Whew.... you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you?

Originally posted by: eits
i stopped reading after "cigarette".... you bore me.

And you prove it too. "You bore me" translated from the debate-speak means you're just too stupid and arrogant to admit you have completely lost.