Coakley-Brown Senate Race in Mass on Jan. 19 - Dems could 60 seat Majority !

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sportage

Lifer
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I don’t know... I think Brown is pretty sleazy type a guy. The kind that gets caught in a airport bathroom diddling some other guy. But guess Mass voters will have to learn that the hard way. What is it now with interest in these sleazy candidates? Too much pot? Failure to see thru the smoke? Something in the water?
Brown, Palin, etc etc. I don’t know...
 

MotF Bane

No Lifer
Dec 22, 2006
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I don’t know... I think Brown is pretty sleazy type a guy. The kind that gets caught in a airport bathroom diddling some other guy. But guess Mass voters will have to learn that the hard way. What is it now with interest in these sleazy candidates? Too much pot? Failure to see thru the smoke? Something in the water?
Brown, Palin, etc etc. I don’t know...

And have you been hiding your head while Coakley rolls out her attack ads continuously?
 

MotF Bane

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Dec 22, 2006
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It's snowing again. Maybe I'll just stay home.

(Not Bloody Likely, but terrible weather bodes well for Brown).

Started snowing for me at the 93/128 interchange, and it hasn't stopped, now in Medford. I forgot my fucking snowbrush though.
 

nick1985

Lifer
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I don’t know... I think Brown is pretty sleazy type a guy. The kind that gets caught in a airport bathroom diddling some other guy. But guess Mass voters will have to learn that the hard way. What is it now with interest in these sleazy candidates? Too much pot? Failure to see thru the smoke? Something in the water?
Brown, Palin, etc etc. I don’t know...

So voters shouldnt vote for this guy because of a wild hunch that you have? Speaking of sleazy, have you seen Coakley's attack adds, or did you bury your head in the sand for those?
 

Painman

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Feb 27, 2000
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Started snowing for me at the 93/128 interchange, and it hasn't stopped, now in Medford. I forgot my fucking snowbrush though.

Tough shit that your job takes you south of that interchange, not north... right into the belly.

Totally your own tough shit, though.
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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There actually ARE death panels in the plan, they just aren't called that.

There are death panels in ANY kind of insurance plan government or private. Without them costs would go through the roof.

If your 100 year old grandma needed a $100,000 operation in order to extend her life 6 months do you think the government would pay for it?? Perhaps you should look at what happens in England.

The Democrats have already set up a "Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research" whose goal is to establish a cost vs. benefit analysis for various types of treatments and procedures. The long term goal is to reduce expenses by limiting risky or expensive procedures that may not provide good long term outcomes.

You're a moron. The actual proposed amendment to the bill that brought out the OMG death panels response from Palin, et ilk, was a mandate for end-of-life counseling for terminally-ill patients to allow those patients the opportunity to decide if they even wanted heroic treatment or not. IOW, they were proposing to let grandma decide. And why? because study after study has shown that, given the choice, most elderly terminally-ill patients would opt out of heroic measures on their own, except that in 49 states they're not allowed to do that without a living will. But thanks for making sure that we get to keep those death panels...
 

Budmantom

Lifer
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I don't see Brown winning.... but if he does, it should send Obama and the rest of the Socialist a warning sign of things to come.
 

keird

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Jan 18, 2002
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I just voted. The ballot had four choices for Senator:

Brown - Republican
Coakley - Democrat
Kennedy - Independent
Write-in

That was it. Nothing else.
 

FerrelGeek

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I don't see Brown winning.... but if he does, it should send Obama and the rest of the Socialist a warning sign of things to come.

If he wins, it better be by at least 7% or so. I'd wager that there a few thousand Coakley ballots just waiting to be 'found' if the need arrises. But should Brown pull this off, it's going to be an interesting week. The current stand-in senator will not be elligable to vote regardless of who wins. If Brown wins, the dems will find a way to ram healthcare through before he gets seated.
 
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Budmantom

Lifer
Aug 17, 2002
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If he wins, it better be by at least 7% or so. I'd wager that there a few thousand Coakley ballotts just waiting to be 'found' if the need arrises. But should Brown pull this off, it's going to be an interesting week. The current stand-in senator will not be elligable to vote regardless of who wins. If Brown wins, the dems will find a way to ram healthcare through before he gets seated.

I thought the the number of ballots found had a direct correlation of the margin of victory?
 

ProfJohn

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You're a moron. The actual proposed amendment to the bill that brought out the OMG death panels response from Palin, et ilk, was a mandate for end-of-life counseling for terminally-ill patients to allow those patients the opportunity to decide if they even wanted heroic treatment or not. IOW, they were proposing to let grandma decide. And why? because study after study has shown that, given the choice, most elderly terminally-ill patients would opt out of heroic measures on their own, except that in 49 states they're not allowed to do that without a living will. But thanks for making sure that we get to keep those death panels...
Go back and re-read my comment.

I was not talking about the Palin idea of death panels but the fact that someone someplace is going to make decisions regarding spending when it comes to certain patients. Insurance companies do it and the government will do it, England already does it and I am sure other UHC countries do it too.

It HAS to be done. To do otherwise would be a total disaster economically. You can't provide expensive operations and procedures endlessly to people who are near the end of the lives.

If you have brain cancer and have 6 months to live and also need a pacemaker does it make sense to instal a $50,000 pacemaker knowing that you are going to do anyway?
 

seemingly random

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Go back and re-read my comment.

I was not talking about the Palin idea of death panels but the fact that someone someplace is going to make decisions regarding spending when it comes to certain patients. Insurance companies do it and the government will do it, England already does it and I am sure other UHC countries do it too.

It HAS to be done. To do otherwise would be a total disaster economically. You can't provide expensive operations and procedures endlessly to people who are near the end of the lives.

If you have brain cancer and have 6 months to live and also need a pacemaker does it make sense to instal a $50,000 pacemaker knowing that you are going to do anyway?
It's curious that pacemakers are still $50,000.
 

Robor

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No doubt the democrat political machine and ACORN are preparing all sorts of wonderful tricks to make sure the election goes the way it's supposed to, just like they did in MN.

After that shit in Ohio and FL I wouldn't whine too much about elections if I were you.