Coaches face suspension for wins of 50-plus points

KLin

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So when the score is 49-0, do you send in the freshman team to play the opponent's varsity team? :confused:.
 

Thraxen

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Wow... suspension? That sucks. Here there is a rule that when a team is up by 35 points or more the clock doesn't stop in the second half. Seems to work quite well.
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Wow... suspension? That sucks. Here there is a rule that when a team is up by 35 points or more the clock doesn't stop in the second half. Seems to work quite well.

That sounds like a much better approach than suspending the coach. He can't help if the other team absolutely sucks.
 

tfinch2

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If a team is beating another team by 50 or more points, the need to move up from 2A to 3A or whatever the classifications the schools use. If they are in the highest classifications, then the competition needs to be moved down.
 

DaiShan

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Why does it matter how much someone wins by? If they want to run up the score who cares? It's football, not a tea party...
 

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So sad to see our society sink to this level.

Penalizing people for doing something too well.

I think rules like this need to stop in pee-wee leagues. Once you're in HS you need to learn to suck it up. Being a man about getting your butt whipped is just as important a skill as being a good winner. If they don't wan't teams getting blown out then they need to have more than 1 division. If a school gets beat by 90 pts so be it. I would hope the coaches would have enough sense not to run up the score in games like this, but let's face it... in HS a running back can dominate a game enough to make running just as bad as passing.

I think poor sportsmanship is bad, but so is teaching kids not to try their best.
 

Thraxen

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
If a team is beating another team by 50 or more points, the need to move up from 2A to 3A or whatever the classifications the schools use. If they are in the highest classifications, then the competition needs to be moved down.

That's not a real good solution though. You sometimes get very good teams in lower classes that will dominate for a few years, but at some point the smaller size of their school will put them at a disadvantage if they are moved up in class.

Anyway, the suspension is kind of stupid, but that coach the article mentions has no class. 90-0? WTF?
 

PingSpike

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We should also ask our gifted students to not do so well on tests, because it makes the retards look bad.
 

waggy

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more pussification! IF its that lopsided then the couch that lost by 50 points should be suspended NOT the one that won by 50 points.

hell if we lost by that much the next day of practice was very very hard.
 

Thraxen

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WTF? So you people actually agree with running up a score 90-0? I think this rule is stupid, but damn, show some class.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
WTF? So you people actually agree with running up a score 90-0? I think this rule is stupid, but damn, show some class.

How is it not showing class? It just makes the losing team work much harder next time because they realize how crappy they are.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
WTF? So you people actually agree with running up a score 90-0? I think this rule is stupid, but damn, show some class.

what do you want them to do? forfit? stop playing? let the other team score? whats a good thing for htem to do?

i agree with changing th eclocks (not stopping etc) but other then that any other ideas?
 

Thraxen

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Originally posted by: dabuddha

How is it not showing class? It just makes the losing team work much harder next time because they realize how crappy they are.

You don't think winning by 50 does the same thing? There comes a point where there is nothing more to be proven and 90-0 crosses way beyond that line. That shows no class.

 

SVT Cobra

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Stupid Rule. I played HS football and we beat opponents by 35 or 40 all the time. And, they sucked it up. But, that is not to say we didn't show class, that was one of the most important things stressed on our team, all business, no showboating. When we were up by a lot in the second half we subsituted our 2nd and 3rd string in and used it as experience and learning time for our younger players.
 

Thraxen

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Thraxen
WTF? So you people actually agree with running up a score 90-0? I think this rule is stupid, but damn, show some class.

what do you want them to do? forfit? stop playing? let the other team score? whats a good thing for htem to do?

i agree with changing th eclocks (not stopping etc) but other then that any other ideas?

We had a very good local team this last year (Springdale, AR) and they had no problem at all running out the clock. They played one team and beat them (if I recall correctly) 49-3. The starters on offense played 1:30 of game time (yeah, that's 1 minute). They just went to the ground, ran the play clock out each play, etc...
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Thraxen
WTF? So you people actually agree with running up a score 90-0? I think this rule is stupid, but damn, show some class.

what do you want them to do? forfit? stop playing? let the other team score? whats a good thing for htem to do?

i agree with changing th eclocks (not stopping etc) but other then that any other ideas?

We had a very good local team this last year (Springdale, AR) and they had no problem at all running out the clock. They played one team and beat them (if I recall correctly) 49-3. The starters on offense played 1:30 of game time (yeah, that's 1 minute). They just went to the ground, ran the play clock out each play, etc...



i agree with sending in the 2nd and 3rd string. but to have your team just sit down on offence is just as bad as continueing to play and scoring. It shows they suck so bad they dont even have to do anything and let them have the ball. yeah that will keep them from having hurt feelings.
 

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At my high school we always put the sophomores in to keep the starters from injuring themselves. As for the blowouts, there were a few of them, but teams that were frequent victims were declassed and dropped out of our conference.
 

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Title is misleading.
One of the coaches has already said that he won't abide by the new rule and will accept the suspension.
 

Thraxen

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Originally posted by: waggy

i agree with sending in the 2nd and 3rd string. but to have your team just sit down on offence is just as bad as continueing to play and scoring. It shows they suck so bad they dont even have to do anything and let them have the ball. yeah that will keep them from having hurt feelings.

When you get beat bad your pride is going to be hurt either way, yes... but most people would prefer a score of 49-0 to 90-0 even if they other team had to lay off. I can tell you from being at all of Springdale's games last year that the teams and coachs appreciated the show of sportsmanship.
 

Heisenberg

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This is completely idiotic. I agree with letting the clock run or maybe even just calling the game when one team is up by 30+ points by the half or something, but punishing the coach is ridiculous. If the team or coach is exhibiting unsportsmanlike behavior that's one thing, but being penalized for just being good is stupid.
 

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i think its more of an issue of coaches not wanting to suffer the embarrasment of sucking so bad. if your 1st can even score a fg on their 3rd, you dont deserve to coach.

the game is physical, but for the most part its desire, discipline, intelligence, execution, and learning how to succeed and fail. that all starts with the coach.

what about when the losing team doesnt give up and finally gets a drive together for some points. that helps the losers feel better and builds character and confidence while giving a good coach some positives to work with the next week. thats part of learning in life, so why toss that out?
 

NuclearNed

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Different sport, but the same principle applies:

This is a true story. Where I live in East TN, baseball is king. From the moment a baby boy or girl is born, they have a baseball glove placed in their little hands. Every kid plays baseball in some sort of league, and most of them are pretty good. Its a community thing where everyone in town fosters a strong total baseball system. Its in our blood. What this means is that by the time all these kids reach high school, we have a glut of exceptional players. Some years, schools in other counties could hardly step on the field with us, we were so good. When I was in high school, I saw a single inning where we scored 20+ runs against an opponent.

We have the 10 run rule, which seems pretty fair to me. What doesn't seem fair is that you would punish the coach and as a result the team too, when even the third-string players are exponentially better than the opposing team's best players.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Originally posted by: dabuddha

How is it not showing class? It just makes the losing team work much harder next time because they realize how crappy they are.

You don't think winning by 50 does the same thing? There comes a point where there is nothing more to be proven and 90-0 crosses way beyond that line. That shows no class.

Why not just end the game entirely when one team is up by 50 points?
 

tfinch2

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Originally posted by: waggy
more pussification! IF its that lopsided then the couch that lost by 50 points should be suspended NOT the one that won by 50 points.

hell if we lost by that much the next day of practice was very very hard.

I went to a HS that was known for it's bball program. If we didn't beat a team by X amount of points, we would have a hell practice the next day.