blackangst1
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Originally posted by: rchiu
Originally posted by: blackangst1
The thing that is interesting, is no one seems to mention the fact that Bush actually halted what Clinton put in place as far as NK nuclear capabilities. So if anything, Bush slowed the process. Here's a few excerpts:
This negotiation (between Kim and Clinton) led to the Agreed Framework of October 21, 1994
The Agreed Framework:
Provisions, Implementation, Costs, Future Issues
The heart of the Agreed Framework was a U.S. commitment to provide North Korea
with a package of nuclear, energy, economic, and diplomatic benefits; in return North Korea would halt the operations and infrastructure development of its nuclear program.12 The Agreed Framework committed North Korea to ?freeze its graphite-moderated reactors and related facilities? with the freeze monitored by the IAEA. Ambassador Robert Gallucci, who negotiated for the United States, stated that ?related facilities? include the plutonium reprocessing plant and 8,000 stored fuel rods. Clinton Administration officials reportedly said that a secret ?confidential minute? to the Agreed Framework prohibits North Korea from construction of new nuclear facilities elsewhere in North Korea.
Gallucci and other officials emphasized that the key policy objective of the Clinton
Administration was to secure a freeze of North Korea?s nuclear program in order to prevent North Korea from producing large quantities of nuclear weapons grade plutonium through the operations of the 50 and 200 megawatt reactors and the plutonium reprocessing plant at Yongbyon. Gallucci referred to the prospect of North Korea producing enough plutonium annually for nearly 30 nuclear weapons if the 50 and 200 megawatt reactors went into operation.
Benefits to North Korea
Light Water Nuclear Reactors. North Korea was to receive two light water
reactors (LWRs) with a generating capacity of approximately 2,000 megawatts. The Agreed Framework set a ?target date? of 2003. The United States was obligated to organize an international consortium arrangement for the acquisition and financing of the reactors. The Clinton Administration and the governments of South Korea, Japan, and other countries
established in March 1995 the Korean Peninsula Energy Development Organization (KEDO) to coordinate the provision of the LWRs. After the groundbreaking at the reactor site in August 1997, KEDO officials changed the estimated completion date from 2003 to 2007; other experts predicted a much later date. The laying of the foundation for the LWRs ocurred in August 2002 just before the Kelly mission to North Korea and the Bush
Administration?s subsequent suspension of construction.
Oil at No Cost. The Agreed Framework committed the United States to provide
500,000 metric tons of heavy oil to North Korea annually until the first of the two light water eactors became operational. The oil shipments continued until KEDO?s decision in
November 2002 to cancel future shipments..
Lifting the U.S. Economic Embargo. The Agreed Framework specifies that within
three months from October 21, 1994, the two sides would reduce barriers to trade and
investment, including restrictions on telecommunications services and financial transactions. This required the Clinton Administration to relax the U.S. economic embargo on North Korea, which the Truman Administration and Congress put in place during the Korean War.
On January 20, 1995, the Administration announced initial, limited measures. North Korea complained loudly that these measures failed to meet the commitment stated in the Agreed Framework. In U.S.-North Korean talks in September 1999, the United States agreed to end a broader range of economic sanctions in exchange for a North Korean moratorium on future missile testing. President Clinton ordered the end of most economic sanctions in June 2000. Since then, North Korea has not met with any American firms to talk about trade and/or investment opportunities and has rejected an offer from the American Chamber of Commerce in Seoul to send a business delegation to Pyongyang.
Disposition of Fuel Rods from the Five Megawatt Reactor. The Agreed
Framework provided for the storage of the rods in North Korea under IAEA monitoring and a North Korean promise not to reprocess plutonium from the rods. ( :roll: ) also provided for subsequent talks on the ?ultimate disposition? of the rods.
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So basically Clinton provided aid, food, oil, and light water reactors in exchange for a "promise" from Kim he wouldnt use rods from said reactors for evil intentions. Uh huh. President Bush dismantled these provisions.
As I've previously stated I dont think today's test could have been prevented; however, people saying Bush accelerated it is bogus. Clinton gave him the technology, and Bush tried to dismantle it.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/IB91141.pdf
Heh, do you even know how light water nuclear plant works? Unlike Heavy-water reactors, Light-water reactors only need enriched uranium to 3.5 percent. But a nuclear weapon requires enriched uranium to 90-plus percent. Together with IAEA monitoring program, there is little NK can do with those LWR.
Under Clinton, there were diplomatic dialogs. There were diplmoatic exchanges. There were gonna be international weapon monitoring. US was helping NK to improve its economy, and maybe one day richer and more educated NK people will kick Kim out of the office themselves.
But no, Bush wants none of that. NK (Kim and every north korean) was one of the Axis of evil and the good old US can't have talks with the bad guys. Yeap, that certain accomplishd alot!
:laugh: mmmmmkay. Youre right. No one went hungry in NK when we were giving them millions in food and money. Kim passed it alllll along to the people