CNN Interviewee: Apple Knows What I Want Before I Do

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Slick5150

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I think you're all fucked in the head. We're 10 hours from the fucking Apple Campus and you want to bail out. Well I'll tell you something. This is no longer a vacation. It's a quest. It's a quest for us to be the first to behold whatever Apple's going to bestow upon us. I'm gonna buy it, and you're gonna buy it. We're all gonna have so much fucking fun buying it we'll need plastic surgery to remove our godamn smiles. You'll be streaming 'Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah' out of your $1500 flat computer! I gotta be crazy! I'm on a pilgrimage to see Steve Jobs. Praise Steve Jobs! Holy Shit!
 

AMDZen

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It's debatable that Echostar invented the technology along with Microsoft. There was a whole court case around it.

And AMD fanboys shouldn't knock, like, anyone.

Being an AMD fanboi suggests I only use AMD and live and die by them. I haven't owned anything but intel for the last 3-4 years. I buy whatever is best. Unfortunately AMD hasn't been for a while.
 

Fizzorin

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I agree. Search was for shit until Google came around. There's a reason that the word "Google" is an official verb in the Oxford English Dictionary.

I think you need to use that OE Dictionary to look up the word "create". :hmm:
 

dwell

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I think you need to use that OE Dictionary to look up the word "create". :hmm:

They didn't create the market? Seems Alta Vista and the rest of them didn't quite know how to monetize search quite as well as Google.

It's all precisely to my point. Google looked at the landscape, saw what worked and what didn't, then came in and defined web search. Same thing Apple did with the iPod, iPhone and aim to do with the tablet.
 

Ns1

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In an interview with CNBC, McGraw-Hill's CEO confirms that their textbooks will be on the Apple Tablet and it will be an iPhone OS based machine. When asked about their textbooks being on the Apple tablet, Terry MrGraw responds (2m 50s):
"Yeah, Very exciting. Yes, they'll make their announcement tomorrow on this one. We have worked with Apple for quite a while. And the Tablet will be based on the iPhone OS and so it will be transferable. So what you are going to be able to do now is we have a consortium of e-books. We have 95% of our materials in e-book format. So now with the tablet you're going to open up the higher education market, the professional market. The tablet is just going to be terrific."
 

herkulease

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I think you're all fucked in the head. We're 10 hours from the fucking Apple Campus and you want to bail out. Well I'll tell you something. This is no longer a vacation. It's a quest. It's a quest for us to be the first to behold whatever Apple's going to bestow upon us. I'm gonna buy it, and you're gonna buy it. We're all gonna have so much fucking fun buying it we'll need plastic surgery to remove our godamn smiles. You'll be streaming 'Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah' out of your $1500 flat computer! I gotta be crazy! I'm on a pilgrimage to see Steve Jobs. Praise Steve Jobs! Holy Shit!

It just doesn't feel the same. But sure brings back memories of the movie.
 

Fizzorin

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They didn't create the market? Seems Alta Vista and the rest of them didn't quite know how to monetize search quite as well as Google.

It's all precisely to my point. Google looked at the landscape, saw what worked and what didn't, then came in and defined web search. Same thing Apple did with the iPod, iPhone and aim to do with the tablet.

Since I don't want to subscribe to OE online (subscribe to a dictionary? Please), this from dictionary.com:

cre⋅ate

  /kriˈeɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kree-eyt] Show IPA verb, -at⋅ed, -at⋅ing, adjective
–verb (used with object) 1. to cause to come into being, as something unique that would not naturally evolve or that is not made by ordinary processes. 2. to evolve from one's own thought or imagination, as a work of art or an invention. 3. Theater. to perform (a role) for the first time or in the first production of a play. 4. to make by investing with new rank or by designating; constitute; appoint: to create a peer. 5. to be the cause or occasion of; give rise to: The announcement created confusion. 6. to cause to happen; bring about; arrange, as by intention or design: to create a revolution; to create an opportunity to ask for a raise.
I think this is what you really want:

re⋅fine

  /rɪˈfaɪn/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ri-fahyn] Show IPA verb, -fined, -fin⋅ing.–verb (used with object) 1. to bring to a fine or a pure state; free from impurities: to refine metal, sugar, or petroleum. 2. to purify from what is coarse, vulgar, or debasing; make elegant or cultured. 3. to bring to a finer state or form by purifying. 4. to make more fine, subtle, or precise: to refine one's writing style.
–verb (used without object) 5. to become pure. 6. to become more fine, elegant, or polished. 7. to make fine distinctions in thought or language.
—Verb phrase 8. refine on or upon, to improve by inserting finer distinctions, superior elements, etc.: to refine on one's previous work.
They really are 2 quite different things, even in the context of this discussion.
 

BeauJangles

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Nobody did it *right* Apple reinvigorated the smartphone market when Microsoft et al were floundering at it. Apple came into the DAP market when Creative, Diamond, etc where creating geeky, confusing devices nobody wanted and carved out a multi-billion-dollar industry.

To your invalid argument. "Wow Google invented web search and advertising!" "Wow, Microsoft invented online gaming matchmaking and voice chat!" Do you see how stupid you sound?

Yeah, Blackberry was sure having a hard time selling smartphones until Apple came along and saved the day and now that Apple makes a smartphone, every other company is obviously copying them when they bring out their own smartphone.
 

hanoverphist

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And BTW, way to miss the point, which was Apple's willingness to take chances vs Google/Microsoft playing it safe by copying merely Apple's prior successes.

my doctors office has had tablets for years now. they arent huge, and they seem to be working quite well.

i was in a puter store about 6 months ago with my kids and they thought the HP touoch screen desktop computer built into a 24" widescreen monitor was the coolest thing evar! there was no tower, keyboard or mouse. but you could add them if you chose to. i would say the reality is that apple likes to take already done, proven stuff and "improve" it with a bit of space saving, white case and locked down hardware and call it "innovative" and "new!"

and i like the ipods. i still have my gen1 nano, 2/3 of my kids have itouch. my son has a zuneHD, and i actually like it better than the itouch for some things.
 

dwell

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Yeah, Blackberry was sure having a hard time selling smartphones until Apple came along and saved the day and now that Apple makes a smartphone, every other company is obviously copying them when they bring out their own smartphone.

Blackberry Storm, anyone?
 

Deeko

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Blackberry Storm, anyone?

Yea and the Storm is generally a failure. Blackberry has had their greatest success to date with phones like the Curve, Tour, Bold, and Pearl - which eschew Apple's model of touch screens and a focus on media/browsing.
 

0roo0roo

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I laugh at that guy, but sadly, Apple is laughing all the way to the bank.

CNN Article: "Cult" of Apple hands on Wednesday Announcement


So, does Lord Jobs know what's best for you, ATOTers? Discuss.

i don't know what to expect.

but gizmodo did have a recent article on why apple is different.
http://gizmodo.com/5451242/show-and-sell-the-secret-to-apples-magic

most companies spend their time showing you prototypes of kewl things they will never sell you. apple only shows you stuff you can buy right away.
 

Wreckem

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Nobody did it *right* Apple reinvigorated the smartphone market when Microsoft et al were floundering at it. Apple came into the DAP market when Creative, Diamond, etc where creating geeky, confusing devices nobody wanted and carved out a multi-billion-dollar industry.

To your invalid argument. "Wow Google invented web search and advertising!" "Wow, Microsoft invented online gaming matchmaking and voice chat!" Do you see how stupid you sound?

Reinvigorated? I wouldnt say that, I would say the Iphone devoured Palms market share but thats about it. RIM's leader market share is pretty much unchanged since the Iphone debuted. As is WinMo, and most of the others. Palm, who once led in smartphone marketshare, dropped like rock.
 

Wreckem

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Blackberry Storm, anyone?

Blackberry stupidly made it when they didnt have to. The Bold, Bold 2, Curve 1, Curve 2, and Tour all sold spectaculerly well. RIM has maintained its roughly 40% marketshare since the debut of the original Iphone.
 

Wreckem

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my doctors office has had tablets for years now. they arent huge, and they seem to be working quite well.

i was in a puter store about 6 months ago with my kids and they thought the HP touoch screen desktop computer built into a 24" widescreen monitor was the coolest thing evar! there was no tower, keyboard or mouse. but you could add them if you chose to. i would say the reality is that apple likes to take already done, proven stuff and "improve" it with a bit of space saving, white case and locked down hardware and call it "innovative" and "new!"

and i like the ipods. i still have my gen1 nano, 2/3 of my kids have itouch. my son has a zuneHD, and i actually like it better than the itouch for some things.

The medical field is probably the one area were tablet PCs have been successful. Motion Computing makes some pretty sweet tablets, but the fact of the matter is there is no real need for an average person to have a full fledged tablet that costs over $1000. Depending on Apples price point, the apple tablet will either be moderately successful or huge failure. If Apple produces a tablet that isnt a fulfledged tablet for under $400 they will be successful. The higher the price the less successful anything over $750 and it wont be successful. Tablets have very few practical uses, and anything expensive will get beat out by much cheaper ebook readers(specifically the Nook).
 
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Locut0s

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Actually I made the obsversation to a friend once that gay people seem to love Apple products. Anyone else noticed that as well? I wonder if that's why they put that guy in the article.

Well gay people tend to like stylish things and some thing apple does well is style.
 

ShawnD1

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Actually I made the obsversation to a friend once that gay people seem to love Apple products. Anyone else noticed that as well? I wonder if that's why they put that guy in the article.

Personally, I feel a lot better knowing Apple's products won't break when I put them in my bum. Google search for "1 guy 1 cup" (not work safe!)
 

idiotekniQues

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i am curious to see what the battery life and screen is like.

the fact is to me the kindle is great because it is great at being a reader. e-ink is fantastic. battery life is superb.

right now battery technology can barely support smartphones, let alone tablet use. if you use amoled, white is the biggest battery sucking color, and to read text, you need a light-ish screen with darker text on it.

android is very good at wrapping text, it has made browsing websites on the go very good. now for magazines and picture driven content, b&w e-readers are no good. but can a battery-sucking e-reader tablet thingie without easy on the eyes e-ink technology really do it?

perhaps there are some new technologies at play here. that would be interesting. but at what price?

to me right now batter technology is the biggest limitation. it does not exist.

i can carry around a nexus one, a zuneHD & a kindle in the same space a 10" tablet would take or a bit more. and i could take them separately when i dont want certain things.

to me that is more convenient. but that is a subjective opinion.
 

lifeobry

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I am curious to what this new device will offer. I have a feeling it may disappoint like the MacBook Air: all style, no substance. Hopefully it will be revolutionary and compel the PC industry to catch up.
 

zerocool84

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Sorry but I'd rather not have a phone that tells me how many programs I can run at one time and forces me to buy expensive add-ons to help battery life since I can't have a spare. Having to void the warranty to get the basic functionality that many other phones have is not a feature to me.
 

0roo0roo

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Reinvigorated? I wouldnt say that, I would say the Iphone devoured Palms market share but thats about it. RIM's leader market share is pretty much unchanged since the Iphone debuted. As is WinMo, and most of the others. Palm, who once led in smartphone marketshare, dropped like rock.

ugh theres regular criticism and theres apple hatred. i think you are blinded by the later. before the iphone "smartphones" were like a theoretical "good idea". in that you could see how it would be nice to have one if it worked, but none of the junk on the market justified its price outside a very small niche of buyers. remember how long microsoft o/s "smartphones" existed on the market? oh ..you dont do you!! because they were such a freakin non factor and irrelevant like the rest. iphone sales have skyrocketed, there is no arguing about it.