CNN Interviewee: Apple Knows What I Want Before I Do

[luv2liv]

"met his husband" lol
i had to read that twice. i thought it was a typo at first glance

 

[dwell]

Apple doesn't really bring new products to the market, they make existing (new) products better by polishing the end product so much. Of course that polish comes with a premium. iPhone, iPod, and plenty of their other major lines weren't ground breaking, they were just one of the best in their market when the market got hot.

I agree with this. Apple do not necessarily create out-of-the-blue new experiences and innovations, but they take what's out, refine the hell out of it, make it simple for non-techies, and then market the hell out of it. Touch devices existed before the iPhone but Apple absolutely nailed the interface and user experience and then wrapped it up in a perfect package.

There's a ton of tablet devices out now as well as eReaders, etc, but what Apple is going to attempt is to tie it all together. Nobody has gotten the tablet right. It's hard to fathom that such a device will be a success as I know absolutely zero people who are interested in a tablet device. Then again, a lot of people poo-pooed the iPod, iPhone, and iMac when they were respectively announced, so I am reserving judgment until it's been on the market for a while.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Most of Apple's stuff seems to look cool, feel sturdy, and work pretty well. I'm not sure what the whole "cult of Apple" thing is about though. None of their stuff is THAT amazing.

 

[Fritzo]

Apple is like the Oprah of the tech world.

 

[ShawnD1]

"met his husband" lol
i had to read that twice. i thought it was a typo at first glance

I totally missed this. lol the stereotype lives.

 

[evident]

this guy is reminiscent of most apple users i personally know. disgusting.

 

[Meghan54]

Believe it or not, a 120 watt power supply is sufficient for a low-end computer with only one HDD, one optical drive, a low-power processor and integrated graphics. Sure, if you start adding other components you'll get issues, but for the majority of people who just want to be able to check their E-mail, that's actually quite sufficient.

I mean, my entire laptop, display and discrete video card included, runs on a 90 watt power supply and even then the system isn't using all 90 watts since there has to be some reserve for the battery charging circuit. I see no reason why a low-end, low-power desktop couldn't get by just fine with "only" 120 watts.

ZV

Please don't confuse ShawnD1 with the facts and let him live in his irrational and delusion-filled world.

 

[Deeko]

No worse than the anti-Apple brigade who pretend Android is a viable alternative to the iPhone or the Zune HD is an iPod Touch killer. Sink or swim with the tablet, Apple is innovating by introducing a totally new class of product where Google and MS are merely copying Apple's prior success.

Wow, this post is totally unsurprising coming from you!!!!

 

[dwell]

Wow, this post is totally unsurprising coming from you!!!!

And unsurprisingly accurate, to which you cannot deny.

 

[Deeko]

And unsurprisingly accurate, to which you cannot deny.

haha, really? You expect me to agree, when I've debated those things with you dozens of times on here? Being pro-Android has nothing to do with being anti-Apple, you don't see the Android supporters on here going around mindlessly attacking the iPhone every chance they get. And you're a seriously a moron if you don't think its a "viable alternative" anyway - there's a difference between being a "viable alternative" and "being better in every conceivable way", which is the only view you think anything can have.

Same goes for the ZuneHD vs the iPod. No one here is running around screaming its an iPod Touch killer - some might say its better for certain things, and it is - but, I realize your warped brain can't comprehend this, but they can coexist - one doesn't have to "kill" the other. And again - just because people will support the ZuneHD - generally, in threads about the ZuneHD that the Apple trolls like yourself are trolling - does not mean they are anti Apple, and seeking out threads about iPods to rip on.

That's what you don't get, kid. Trolls like yourself go into threads about non-Apple products to bitch and moan about how superior you think Apple is. The Zune, Android, WebOS, etc crowd doesn't do the same. You might have had some semblence if an argument if you'd said Mac vs PC - Mac threads do get overrun by PC people - but no worse than you do in Windows threads. However, with devices, its not the case, not at all.

Therefore, as usual, your post was completely inaccurate, but your head is too far up Steve Jobs' ass to realize it.

 

[Nitemare]

If Steve Jobs released a bluetooth enabled turd, the fanbois would still line up to buy it.

 

[dwell]

That's what you don't get, kid. Trolls like yourself go into threads about non-Apple products to bitch and moan about how superior you think Apple is. The Zune, Android, WebOS, etc crowd doesn't do the same. You might have had some semblence if an argument if you'd said Mac vs PC - Mac threads do get overrun by PC people - but no worse than you do in Windows threads. However, with devices, its not the case, not at all.

BS. Go into any iPhone / Apple post on a site like say, Digg, Engadget, Gizmodo and you will see the Android fanboys trolling all over the comments with claims of finding a superior platform with Android. With Apple being a mainstream success, the backlash is inevitable and blindly apparent on the web. And yes, the majority of the people buying Andriod and Zune are looking for alternatives to Apple, because they think they are trend-buckers. It's always been that way when one platform dominates.

And BTW, way to miss the point, which was Apple's willingness to take chances vs Google/Microsoft playing it safe by copying merely Apple's prior successes.

 

[Ns1]

"And BTW, way to miss the point, which was Apple's willingness to take chances vs Google/Microsoft playing it safe by copying merely Apple's prior successes."

you know the tablet has been done before right?

 

[Deeko]

BS. Go into any iPhone / Apple post on a site like say, Digg, Engadget, Gizmodo and you will see the Android fanboys trolling all over the comments with claims of finding a superior platform with Android. With Apple being a mainstream success, the backlash is inevitable and blindly apparent on the web. And yes, the majority of the people buying Andriod and Zune are looking for alternatives to Apple, because they think they are trend-buckers. It's always been that way when one platform dominates.

And BTW, way to miss the point, which was Apple's willingness to take chances vs Google/Microsoft playing it safe by copying merely Apple's prior successes.

You really think Apple is the only company that has ever innovated? Google - one of the most innovative companies this decade - doesn't innovate, just because you don't like Android? Microsoft doesn't innovate? You're right, xBox Live didn't fundamentally change online gaming. I guess you assume because something is multitouch enabled, Apple is the only company that's done it, right? And for that matter, no one ever made an internet-enabled smartphone before the iPhone, right? That was PURE innovation! They INVENTED the smartphone! Its not like they took something that had existed for a decade and slapped a new UI on it. And no one has ever made a tablet before. Nope, no one. Apple is the first. Wait....right?

 

[dwell]

you know the tablet has been done before right?

And never right. So, IMO, it takes an incredible amount of guts to come out and bet the farm on a tablet device. They have to be thinking they're doing something right. Even if it completely flops, at least they tried something nobody else thought of (assuming they are not cloning the HP / Dell / Microsoft failed tablet model).

 

[Deeko]

And never right. So, IMO, it takes an incredible amount of guts to come out and bet the farm on a tablet device. They have to be thinking they're doing something right. Even if it completely flops, at least they tried something nobody else thought of (assuming they are not cloning the HP / Dell / Microsoft failed tablet model).

Lets read this......

And BTW, way to miss the point, which was Apple's willingness to take chances vs Google/Microsoft playing it safe by copying merely Apple's prior successes.

.....and then go back to this.

So when Apple takes an idea that already exists, alters it, and releases a product, they have GUTS. When Microsoft or Google does it, they're MERELY COPYING APPLE.

Do you listen to yourself talk?

 

[dwell]

no one ever made an internet-enabled smartphone before the iPhone, right?

Nobody did it *right* Apple reinvigorated the smartphone market when Microsoft et al were floundering at it. Apple came into the DAP market when Creative, Diamond, etc where creating geeky, confusing devices nobody wanted and carved out a multi-billion-dollar industry.

To your invalid argument. "Wow Google invented web search and advertising!" "Wow, Microsoft invented online gaming matchmaking and voice chat!" Do you see how stupid you sound?

 

[dwell]

So when Apple takes an idea that already exists, alters it, and releases a product, they have GUTS. When Microsoft or Google does it, they're MERELY COPYING APPLE.

Please demonstrate where Android iterates on the smartphone platform forward to the degree that the iPhone did with it's predecessors. We can only assume the Apple tablet will represent the same degree of moving the market forward.

 

[Deeko]

Nobody did it *right* Apple reinvigorated the smartphone market when Microsoft et al were floundering at it. Apple came into the DAP market when Creative, Diamond, etc where creating geeky, confusing devices nobody wanted and carved out a multi-billion-dollar industry.

To your invalid argument. "Wow Google invented web search and advertising!" "Wow, Microsoft invented online gaming matchmaking and voice chat!" Do you see how stupid you sound?

The smartphone market wasn't floundering at all, what are you talking about? Microsoft & Palm, with some help from Blackberry, *invented* the smartphone. They were already making PDAs, and they slapped a cell phone on it. It grew very well in the business world, and Windows Mobile 5 at least opened the door to the consumer market - Apple took the model, changed the UI to be more consumer-friendly, and entered that door.

I didn't say Google invented search, or that Microsoft invented online gaming. However, they are both huge innovators in those areas. They both fundamentally changed those things. I'm not saying Apple doesn't innovate, of course they do - I'm shooting down your absurd statement that Apple is the *only* one of them that innovates, and they just copy Apple's success.

 

[QueBert]

Lets read this......



.....and then go back to this.

So when Apple takes an idea that already exists, alters it, and releases a product, they have GUTS. When Microsoft or Google does it, they're MERELY COPYING APPLE.

Do you listen to yourself talk?

Because MS/Google only copy something after it's successful, without the success of the iPod Touch/iPhone we wouldn't see phones like the Droid or the Zune HD. Apple took a BIG chance with both products and only after the because huge successes did MS & Google jump on board. I'm sure pre-iPhone MS and Google were laughing their asses off at the mere thought of a device with no buttons and no keyboard. I can't think of the last time MS took a risk with an existing idea that was out there that wasn't a hit already. Because they simply don't. When I see a Zune HD I know without the Touch the Zune HD wouldn't exist. MS doesn't innovate, they take other popular devices and make a clone. Apple makes ideas that didn't work into something people want to copy. The last original MS product I remember was a picture viewer you hook to a TV, it has a fucking floppy drive in it. Since then nothing new and nothing original.

 

[dwell]

I didn't say Google invented search, or that Microsoft invented online gaming. However, they are both huge innovators in those areas. They both fundamentally changed those things. I'm not saying Apple doesn't innovate, of course they do - I'm shooting down your absurd statement that Apple is the *only* one of them that innovates.

I never said that Google and Microsoft never innovate. Stop putting words in my mouth. In the case of Android and Zune, well, there's more imitation than innovation going on there, for sure.

 

[dullard]

Sink or swim with the tablet, Apple is innovating by introducing a totally new class of product where Google and MS are merely copying Apple's prior success.
Apple do not necessarily create out-of-the-blue new experiences and innovations.
There's a ton of tablet devices out now.
So, IMO, it takes an incredible amount of guts to come out and bet the farm on a tablet device...at least they tried something nobody else thought of.

I really have never seen so much waffling from one person in one thread in my life. First you say this tablet is a "totally new class of product". Then you say, apple doesn't innovate new items and that tablets already exist. So, you end it with Apple is trying "something nobody else thought of". It is really amazing that people will publically contractict themselves multiple times in such a short period of time.

Apple takes existing products, makes them flashy, adds top of the line parts to them, and sells for a massive markup. Apple does that very well. And many of the products are worth using. But, that is all that Apple really does (minor improvements on existing products). They don't "bet the farm" on new innovations. The tablet is a very minor bet. That would be like saying Warren Buffet is betting the farm if he buys a $1M company. No, that is a very minor bet. Heck, Apple even made that tablet bet before and lost. Remember the Newton?

Wow what an innovation! Apple is copying what Apple made 20 years ago!

 

[Deeko]

Please demonstrate where Android iterates on the smartphone platform forward to the degree that the iPhone did with it's predecessors. We can only assume the Apple tablet will represent the same degree of moving the market forward.

I see you are going with Google on this one, and not Microsoft, Palm, or Blackberry. That's cute, Microsoft doesn't innovate, except for when they do. Google doesn't innovate, except for when they do.

Android isn't something entirely new, where did I say it was? I said it was a viable alternative. What Android really does is 'bridge the gap'. Apple is a closed ecosystem that blossomed in the consumer world. Windows Mobile was a very open, customizable system that grew in the business world. Android takes parts from both models. Ya know....similar to what you said the Apple tablet would do. But Android is just imitation, whereas the tablet is gutsy innovation, right?

Because MS/Google only copy something after it's successful, without the success of the iPod Touch/iPhone we wouldn't see phones like the Droid or the Zune HD. Apple took a BIG chance with both products and only after the because huge successes did MS & Google jump on board. I'm sure pre-iPhone MS and Google were laughing their asses off at the mere thought of a device with no buttons and no keyboard. I can't think of the last time MS took a risk with an existing idea that was out there that wasn't a hit already. Because they simply don't. When I see a Zune HD I know without the Touch the Zune HD wouldn't exist. MS doesn't innovate, they take other popular devices and make a clone. Apple makes ideas that didn't work into something people want to copy. The last original MS product I remember was a picture viewer you hook to a TV, it has a fucking floppy drive in it. Since then nothing new and nothing original.

Again....no, that's not true. Why do people keep pointing to the iPhone when trying to make that argument? Apple did not invent the smartphone. Apple took something that was already successful, and growing, and improved on it. They did *exactly* what you are accusing Microsoft and Google of doing.

As for Microsoft, I already gave the xBox Live example. Sure, you could play online on PS2...you could play online on Dreamcast, even SNES. They didn't invent it. But they *did* fundamentally change it. What Microsoft did with online gaming, Apple did with smartphones. You cannot say Microsoft doesn't innovate and Apple does, while ignoring examples like that.

I never said that Google and Microsoft never innovate. Stop putting words in my mouth. In the case of Android and Zune, well, there's more imitation than innovation going on there, for sure.

....so you're saying in places where its convenient, you'll kick and scream that Google and Microsoft are copycats, and Apple is gutsy innovators, and ignore the places where Google and Microsoft innovate? That's pretty sad.

 

[dwell]

I really have never seen so much waffling from one person in one thread in my life. First you say this tablet is a "totally new class of product".

I will bet that the Apple Tablet will be a new class of product in the same way the iPhone was a new class of product to the smartphone market. Even more so, in fact.

 

[Nitemare]

I will bet that the Apple Tablet will be a new class of product in the same way the iPhone was a new class of product to the smartphone market. Even more so, in fact.

Why would someone need it?

the iPhone took the place of a cellphone and PDA

What will the tablet take the place of?