CNN Drops 26% In Prime Time

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Remember Jim Baker and Tammy Faye?
Remember Howard Stern?
People watched because they could not believe what they were seeing and hearing.
Howards outrageous stunts, Tammy's make-up running down her face.
Well, the same goes for Fox News.
So totally ridiculous that people have it running in the background, for the pets, while the adults are away.
Seriously.... you don't think people actually WATCH Sean Hannity to get their news?
Things may be bad but not THAT bad.
 

cytg111

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjo...s-dominates-april-cable-ratings/#7a65d8163c59

Appears that the recent sampling of cable news has CNN less than a million viewers. MSNBC came in with a somewhat respectful 1.66 million. Fox for the 208th consecutive month leads with an incredible 2.395 million viewers in prime time.


Prime Time

CNN - 767,000
MSNBC - 1.660 million
FOX - 2.395 million

Any concrete theories as to why CNN and MSNBC fair so poorly to FOX in total viewership? Maybe those that watch cable news are catching on to the fact that the 2 networks are not worthy of reporting the political news as "news". Maybe its the fact that they have had a belly full of their inaccurate reporting of the news as they WANT it to be.

Both CNN and MSNBC are flagships for the party of EVIL.... their hatred for Trump is never going to end. Even after his next term is over there will still be a stigma attached in their handling of political news. Basically, its not news they are spewing but rather opinions.

On the other hand, when you have commentators like these 2 guys it makes you wonder if a massive enema is in order for both networks respectfully. Granted these clips are 2 years old but they are an indicator as to how the 2 networks function and the commentators are still alive and being themselves.


MSNBC and CNN at their best....

Fox is selling entertainment ... End of story.
Its like, everybody knows that McDonalds is probably not the best source of nutrients for your temple, yet everybody is still getting fat as fuck. Whats up with that?
Hint for the trumpintellects here .. Fox == McDonalds
Fox is loaded with saturated fat blobs like Hannity. He may be good for a laugh but he will eventually give you a stroke.
 
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Fox is selling entertainment ... End of story.
Its like, everybody knows that McDonalds is probably not the best source of nutrients for your temple, yet everybody is still getting fat as fuck. Whats up with that?
Hint for the trumpintellects here .. Fox == McDonalds
Fox is loaded with saturated fat blobs like Hannity. He may be good for a laugh but he will eventually give you a stroke.

problem is that there a a lot of folks who take fox at face value and not even realize it's entertainment and not news and they want it that way, dupe the angry conservatives.
 

TheVrolok

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Sigh, not this bullshit again.

What deplorable network keeps harping upon this?

So tired of the ratings claim.

Essentially if they are doing good they are too corporate friendly, if they are doing poorly they suck. Neither of those rules ever apply to Fox.

yet another account that used to post in hot deals, video cards and PC stuff that went quiet for a long period is active again with what appears to be totally different interests.
I'm sure that's just a coincidence. I think this is one of the sock puppet accounts I called out when it was reactivated. Maybe not, hard to recall when there are so many.
 

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It is really alarming that Americans are lapping up Fox at such a rate, and Democrats are often similarly gravitating to lower quality online sources. It's even more concerning that severely biased to outright propaganda sources make up virtually all of the consumed conservative news sources out there.
 

Bitek

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I don’t even understand the point you are attempting to make.
Are you saying news networks should be choose the winner

I’m being serious I don’t understand what point you are attempting to make

Of course TV dictates election winners. Duh, political science 101 noob.

That's why Daenerys Targaryen is leading all the 2020 polls. White Walker Pence better watch his back.
All hail our new dragon overlords.
 

fskimospy

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Typical...spin the stats. Very simple, somebody is 3rd, somebody is 2nd and somebody is 1st. Not surprised you would spin it that way. A well known characteristic of the party of Evil.

You grouped CNN and MSNBC together in your OP and then you get mad when someone points out that when you group them together they have more viewers.

It’s not our fault you’re too dumb to do basic math.
 
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To my very amateur understanding the rating do not include streaming.
I wonder if Fox News is like country music, bunch of people watch it but they are also the least likely to stream TV?

Been said about country music, it’s definitely popular but it also has the listeners who are least likely to use or buy digital music. Hence it has higher album sales and higher revenue.
 

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To my very amateur understanding the rating do not include streaming.
I wonder if Fox News is like country music, bunch of people watch it but they are also the least likely to stream TV?

Been said about country music, it’s definitely popular but it also has the listeners who are least likely to use or buy digital music. Hence it has higher album sales and higher revenue.

I wouldn't be surprised. The baby boomers have a hard time cutting the cord. Literally all the boomers in my life won't stop buying cable, even some of the more tech savvy one's.
 

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You do realize that the comparison is of the 3 major cable networks....

Fox is the only major outlet for TrumpTV which causes them to be sole source for those who want to hear good things about him even though it's mostly crafted to the point of being unrelated to reality. Those who are not interested in that have everywhere else to go. So take the other two and add them and there's a better representation of public perceptions. If we take out Fox shows which aren't based on news but are effectively state propaganda organs such as Hannity and Carlson then it isn't as exciting for their audience. MSNBC is left leaning, absolutely but Maddow is the best of all three channels because she cites materials and events which shoots things like "no obstruction" in the foot. Tucker is a Jerry Springer spinoff and Hannity is a glamor event for Reps.

But in the end it doesn't matter because the facts are getting out and the major stories are against Trump and Mitch and many others.
 

HomerJS

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjo...s-dominates-april-cable-ratings/#7a65d8163c59

Appears that the recent sampling of cable news has CNN less than a million viewers. MSNBC came in with a somewhat respectful 1.66 million. Fox for the 208th consecutive month leads with an incredible 2.395 million viewers in prime time.


Prime Time

CNN - 767,000
MSNBC - 1.660 million
FOX - 2.395 million

Any concrete theories as to why CNN and MSNBC fair so poorly to FOX in total viewership? Maybe those that watch cable news are catching on to the fact that the 2 networks are not worthy of reporting the political news as "news". Maybe its the fact that they have had a belly full of their inaccurate reporting of the news as they WANT it to be.

Both CNN and MSNBC are flagships for the party of EVIL.... their hatred for Trump is never going to end. Even after his next term is over there will still be a stigma attached in their handling of political news. Basically, its not news they are spewing but rather opinions.

On the other hand, when you have commentators like these 2 guys it makes you wonder if a massive enema is in order for both networks respectfully. Granted these clips are 2 years old but they are an indicator as to how the 2 networks function and the commentators are still alive and being themselves.


MSNBC and CNN at their best....
Maybe for the same reason loyal Fox viewers are the most politically misinformed. In case you think I'm making that up multiple surveys have tested groups of people and those were the results.

If you want an interesting comparison the Sunday shows which are more "hard news" Fox News Sunday comes in last. This is Q4 2018 and the numbers are similar Q1 2019.

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/sunday-show-ratings-q4-2018-week-of-dec-30/389595/

My takeaway Fox viewers LOVE their propaganda. For a laugh look at FNS's Facebook page. Most of the comments are bitching about the host Chris Wallace because he isn't pro Trump enough. They aren't interested in facts.
 
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Old people watch TV. Fox News tends to attract old people.

Eventually, old people won't be watching much TV.
 

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I don't know why anyone would watch any of the three.

For the most part I agree, though I confess I'll watch Maddow on occasion after some relatively important thing. As an example Mueller's letter about Barr's opinion on the Report being misrepresentative. At that point she didn't bring on guest which support her postion right away but usually goes over the original material first and she noted and documented other communication.

That's something I think is lacking in many programs, including those on her own network, documents that back her contention. She has an ideology but she usually has a systematic approach including relevant research to support her arguments.

Other than her I generally stick with other ways of getting a sense of what is happening.
 

ondma

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Remember Jim Baker and Tammy Faye?
Remember Howard Stern?
People watched because they could not believe what they were seeing and hearing.
Howards outrageous stunts, Tammy's make-up running down her face.
Well, the same goes for Fox News.
So totally ridiculous that people have it running in the background, for the pets, while the adults are away.
Seriously.... you don't think people actually WATCH Sean Hannity to get their news?
Things may be bad but not THAT bad.
Actually, I think things *are* that bad. Otherwise, Trump would have a 20% approval rating, and would have been removed for mental instability. Besides, I love my cats, and would never subject them to listening to propoganda expounded by people less intelligent than they are.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Old people watch TV. Fox News tends to attract old people.

Eventually, old people won't be watching much TV.


That is true but then we have a bigger problem with improved "AI" and Big Data. Before it was fairly obvious that what we see on the internet has been tailored to some degree to reinforce or "bubble" our perspectives, but then it's gone on to manipulation of what we see at a more sophisticated level while compiling profiles of "who we are" at an individual level for any and all purposes. McCowan wasn't too far off in intent of those who have control of the means to do this, just too early as far as technology for practical application and yeah I thought the same as others then. "Spooky Dave".

So if I want to get a better pulse on things I will on occasion go on a private non-google browser and VPN and I see a more generic view of things. "They" aren't coming to get us, but with propaganda becoming more sophisticated it's probably not a bad idea to do what we can.
 

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For the most part I agree, though I confess I'll watch Maddow on occasion after some relatively important thing. As an example Mueller's letter about Barr's opinion on the Report being misrepresentative. At that point she didn't bring on guest which support her postion right away but usually goes over the original material first and she noted and documented other communication.

That's something I think is lacking in many programs, including those on her own network, documents that back her contention. She has an ideology but she usually has a systematic approach including relevant research to support her arguments.

Other than her I generally stick with other ways of getting a sense of what is happening.
IMO, Maddow is guilty of the same hyped up, ratings driven bullshit as the rest of them.

I'll stick with the WSJ as my primary news source. The opinion pages are definitely conservative but the hard news coverage is sober, factual and typically not filled with a bunch of click bait bullshit.
 
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I'm saying that you want to just keep playing a game of dismissing the #1 news channel. I give 0 shits of the news or the channel, but just judging by its viewership I can't help but notice how stupid the liberal party is. Mind you, I don't do anything other than watch LIBERAL bias news such as Bill Maher and John Oliver.

Feel free to dismiss millions though by stereotyping them all. I'm sure that will pay off in the next election...

God forbid you have liberals show up on the #1 channel.

Weird since even they consider themselves an entertainment channel. That much is clear since you were so goddamned stupid you kept posting links to tabloids to support your "OMG terrorist at EuroDisney!!!" that turned out to be a malfunctioning escalator... Er isn't your argument that there isn't viewership? Seriously can you clowns keep your bullshit straight for even two full sentences? As expected you attempt to be as stupid as possible. Because of that, I can't tell if this is you old conservative cucks attempting to claim that comedy shows are "news" to liberals (because its all or nothing, it can't possibly be comedy and better researched than basically anything on Fox News) or if that actually is your source for news. I'm going to assume its not the latter as otherwise you'd have learned something, yet your posts show you know jack fucking shit about anything other than how to be the dumbest person at every possible occasion.

The funniest part is that, you must be full on apoplectic watching those considering how much you rage about liberal stuff on here. Plus your general aversion to facts and ever knowing what you're talking about on literally every single subject you ever comment about. I'm guessing you sit there chuckling to yourself "stupid liberals believe this shit" or some other idiocy that if you watched yourself you'd probably call yourself a LIBERAL idiot because you'd be too stupid to notice that you were looking at yourself. I'd laugh if you sat there in agreement but then go online and rage in the opposite direction.

You do realize that's literally how politicking works, right? You also do realize that's literally what Turmp campaigned on? And that the GOP has been doing that for decades.

Sounds like you should bring that issue up with Fox News, no? Which considering Fox is far behind the main networks (which people like you regularly dismiss as part of the "liberal media"), seems like your argument is kinda dumb. They're not dismissing the power of a propaganda tool like Fox News, they're dismissing that Fox News viewers are capable of thinking for themselves or that the paltry amount of viewers it gets means much of anything. I'm pretty sure PewDiePie could make a fart video and it'd get more people watching it than Fox News. That doesn't mean its worthwhile, it just means there's people that will watch just about anything. Why shitsuckers like sucking shit has been discussed ad nauseam already so no need to delve into that yet again (all the evidence for why there are people stupid enough to get all or basically any of their news from Fox News, they just need to look at your posts and realize "oh, right, there are people that choose to be stupid").
 

Jaskalas

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Typical...spin the stats. Very simple, somebody is 3rd, somebody is 2nd and somebody is 1st. Not surprised you would spin it that way. A well known characteristic of the party of Evil.

Spin? You can claim some imaginary 1st place trophy if that'll help you sleep at night. But this subject involves politics, and in this country we have two parties. Our vote is NOT split three major ways. In this, your data proves Fox the minority on election day. I'm just fine with that outcome. I can understand if you are in denial.
 

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I don't watch any of these channels. I do switch between them on Sirius radio on my commute. I swear to god when the Five is on after work it just sounds like a bunch of babbling geese. I listen to some of each because I like to hear what propaganda they are dishing out to their listeners, and it's bad on both sides of the spectrum. CNN always has breaking news of the same old rehashed shit over and over again, with opinion sessions including their experts always saying how the world will end because of some small thing that happened that day. Fox is a bunch of targeted conservative crap that I can see Trump voters thinking it's the greatest "news" source ever.

I like to listen to BBC and MSNBC or NPR if I have the time.