I doubt it. He said "I ran into the kitchen and the molding around the frame near the dead bolt is starting to crack". That's the last thing I think a drunk person would be doing. You have to go into that situation with some sort of malicious intent to start doing something like that.
I doubt it. He said "I ran into the kitchen and the molding around the frame near the dead bolt is starting to crack". That's the last thing I think a drunk person would be doing. You have to go into that situation with some sort of malicious intent to start doing something like that.
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This is the only thing that really had me confused about the situation. Why WOULD he keep going if the light came on? For clarification, it was the kitchen light I turned on and not the outside light. Apparently (after all of this had happened) I found out that both back and front outside lights had burnt out that day. Talk about bad timing...
Chambering a shotgun is a pretty intimidating sound, if it's not enough to scare off the would be intruder, they deserve to get it.
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According to the castle law here in Missouri, even if it is just trespassing, and it is clear that this person is trespassing, you can claim your castle law rights. If you tell him to leave and he's running away and I shot him in the back as he ran, I could be persecuted. So, taking the shot right away would have been justified seeing as how he was using clear force to try and enter. If this was a guy who was just drunk and thought he was at his own place, then I'm not really sure how the law would handle it. But then again, how do you prove this?
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Even better... we had the deadbolts replaced so that the bolt extends PAST the framing and into the wall. So much better.
alkemyst
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A deadbolt only has so much throw...the stud is the best place for it to sit in...once it's past the stud into the 'wall' it's just in dead space. If your walls are only drywall it's not going to do much good anyway. Optimally you'd reinforce the stud with a steel receiver for the deadbolt.
Many doors I have seen have the bolt set too shallow and sometimes it's not even 'dead' and can be slid back easy. Also some are set to close to the edge of the stud, making for an easy kick in or pry out.
bob4432
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good job all the way around. why not pick up a ar15 that is a clone of your a2 that you have the familiarity and muscle memory with? you may have to do a little bit of searching w/ the current political climate, but there are still decent priced ones around if you look.
Or if, as others have suggested, had your wife call the cops while you detained him at shotgun point so that he could go to jail.
A nice pic of you on the front page, shotgun in hand, as the cops are perp walking him past your house certainly would send a message.
Oh well, hindsight is always 20/20. Glad you and your family are okay. I'm also glad the intruder isn't dead.
Jeff7
Lifer
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They did of course make note of this once - Peter took off his chin with some surprise, "How's these get up there?" and placed them/it back down his pants.Originally posted by: Rubycon
Originally posted by: Proprioceptive
My wife HATES Family Guy... thinks it's inappropriate, but I think it's equal-opportunity hilarity. I told her what I was watching when this all happened and she sighed and says nothing when I watch it now.
Can't say I blame her. Characters with chins that look like a sack! :laugh:
And yes, it is quite inappropriate. But crude/dirty humor is simply more fun.
Though subtle, smarter humor, such as that perhaps found in Monty Python or Futurama can also be good.
Or the sign of a truly cultured viewing audience: MST3K
jamesbond007
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Could there ever be any negative repercussion to holding someone at gunpoint if they tried to break into your house? What if the guy tried to run away, but you maybe fired a warning shot to get him to stop so the police could jail the person? Is that legal?
Could you put someone at gunpoint if they entered your apartment (not just the building but the apartment you rent) without you opening the door? Say forced entrance or if they used a bump key to enter.
I'm definitely going to look up this "Castle Law", too! I am not a home-owning citizen yet, but these are things I need to look into.
zinfamous
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indeed.
sucks that OP didn't get a positive ID on the perp, though. While he did see the suspect at the station and will probably notice him in the future, I'd feel more comfortable knowing I could ID such a neighbor on the street knowing that they can certainly ID me.
SarcasticDwarf
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All exterior doors should be set in steel frames. There are very few doors in the US that CAN'T be kicked in with just a couple of kicks. It is pathetic how much people think that doors can actually stop physical force.
IHateMyJob2004
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Way to go:
1) get shotgun
2) call cops
GENIOUS!
I would have called the cops, let the guy break in and get his ass on the ground.
1) get shotgun
2) call cops
GENIOUS!
I would have called the cops, let the guy break in and get his ass on the ground.
It depends on the state, and the circumstances. I can tell you that even if it's actually legal you may have to fight a bit. When I caught two repeat thieves in our shed I held them at sword point till the cops arrived (it's what I had handy at the time). We got called to the courthouse about it and were threatened with charges by the Sheriff and prosecutor for what we'd done because I used a sword (but were told to use a gun in the future and there'd be no issue). The final disposition was that although no laws were broken by us, if we didn't drop all charges against the thieves the county was going after us anyway just to cost us money and make things difficult as a lesson. To this day I have no idea if it really was the use of sword to hold them, or if the thieves were somehow related to someone in power and it was all about getting them out of trouble. *shrug*
My bottom line is, live to be judged by your peers. I'll do whatever I have to in order to stay safe from harm.
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