Originally posted by: conjur
No it's not. It's a troll thread.Originally posted by: Riprorin
Well..this thread is about Clinton.Originally posted by: conjur
"Well...."Originally posted by: Genx87
The man was a workhorse, I remember seeing him out there with a pick axe.Originally posted by: conjur
Don't you remember? He single-handedly took down the Berlin Wall.Originally posted by: Infohawk
And Reagan's "accomplishments"?Originally posted by: Genx87
You mean the huge budget deficits of the 1980s were a result of a Democratic controlled senate?
Looks like sound logic to me
Hey, anyone heard the new Cold Play?
It's good. But all the chords, even the repetition of the chords, is straight out of "Clocks". I wish it was more original.
Steeplerot
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Thats becasue all those mainstream american bands are protools clones.
-watered down corporate fodder just like everything else in modern american so-called "culture".
They'll both be remembered as courageous presidents who boldly confronted the evil "-isms" of their day.
Both of their presidencys will be looked upon favorably by historians.
How dare you suggest I am mocking God by spreading His word. You're the one who tries to twist His word by looking at commentary all the time.
I think he's just speaking the truth....don't think it's personal.
It's not personal when I say you shouldn't mock God by entering Him into dirty politics in most of your threads. I really do think that is what you are doing.
Rattle my cage? I am rattling my cage by spreading His word? You're the one who accuses people who refer to the Bible as children. Hypocrite.
I stated facts.
Welfare reform and the balanced budget were driven by the Republican congress, not Clinton.
Clinton's presidency was disasterous.
Welfare reform and the balanced budget were driven by the Republican congress, not Clinton.
Clinton's presidency was disasterous.
I didn't insult you... wtf are you talking about? You need to stop running to interweb commentaries every single time you are ignorant about the Bible.
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yeah disasterously high dry cleaning bill to clean a bit of jizz off a dress versus the current admininistration that is soaked in the blood of thousands worldwide...sure.
If Clinton hand't decimated the military, ignored global terrorism, and made us a laughing stock around the globe, perhaps the terrorits would have thought twice about attacking us on 9/11.
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Steeplerot
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suuure, and of course we never bothered anyone in the middle east and we were just sitting on our hands looking innocent all these years....you need a serious reality check...
More like if the right wasent busy pissing away our future in their dirty little wars worldwide
we would not even be on the terorists radar, much less the reasons for it blossoming worldwide.
Well if Reagan hadn't helped Suddam, aided bin Laden, we wouldn't have been in this situation today. Reagan is responsible for all of this.
Steeplerot
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damn straight hussein is just as much on the republicans side as the terrorists hold hands with in saudi arabia.
why do you think first thing hussein asked for was to call the whole reagan group as witnesses in his defense?
that nerve gas and dead are reagan and friends doing, neocon enabled genocide from the land of the free and home of the brave.
saddam was just a puppet that went rouge from the neocons oily wet-dream, osama too.
you want to know who the real murders are of all these people? the same people fearing middle america into STFU and playing along.
why do you think first thing hussein asked for was to call the whole reagan group as witnesses in his defense?
that nerve gas and dead are reagan and friends doing, neocon enabled genocide from the land of the free and home of the brave.
saddam was just a puppet that went rouge from the neocons oily wet-dream, osama too.
you want to know who the real murders are of all these people? the same people fearing middle america into STFU and playing along.
You sound just like those other stupid bastards that think gun manufacturers are responsible when someone gets shot.
William J. Clinton, an accessory and enabler of the 9/11 terrorist attacks,
while US president for 8 years, .....
Issued Executive Order 12866 and the change in the Federal Law relieving the FAA of their original responsibility for safety.
Decimated the budget for 'human' intelligence, including the infiltration of terrorist groups by informers.
Incited the Muslims with unannounced and unjustified attacks on an aspirin factory in Sudan, with civilian fatalities - (day before impeachment vote).
Ordered ineffective 'surgical' strikes at Bin Laden training camps in Afghanistan - (day before impeachment vote).
Intentionally failed to confront Iraq over its complicity in the embassy and WTC bombing and other attacks:
Covered-up Iraqi involvement in 1993 WTC Bombing and TWA 800 and OKC Bombing
Made the CIA and DOJ roles into a political joke
Launched bombing raids against civilians against so-called "terrorist training camps" supposedly under bin Laden's control in Afghanistan
Launched bombing raids against civilians against a purported "chemical weapons factory" in Sudan that almost certainly was no such thing.
Launched bombing raids against civiliansn the same day as Monica Lewinsky's grand jury testimony that she had engaged in sex with the president.
Ordered bombings in Iraq the day before Congress was scheduled to vote on his impeachment.
Waged war for no compelling reason in the Balkans, and slaughtered civilians with the unprovoked bombings.
Announced a "War on Terrorism," yet prevented American intelligence from acquiring the kinds of assets it needed to do the job
Provided China with intelligence to pass on to Afghanistan
Rejected military strike on bin Laden during final days in office, after receiving intelligence on his whereabouts
Offered to reduce the sentences of 16 members of the Armed Forces of National Liberation, commonly known by its Spanish initials, FALN, on the condition they renounce violence. The group was involved in more than 100 bombings in the United States during the 1970s and 1980s. Hillary Clinton was then running for senatress in NY, with its large Puerto Rican population.
Made a "solemn promise" at Norfolk, Va. to the families, friends and shipmates of the USS Cole to avenge their deaths.
Sold Bin Ladin the communications equipment that couldn't be tapped
Supported the Taliban militia in Afghanistan; claimed by Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher: UPI / author Joe Warminsky / October 20, 1999.
New York Times: the FBI had detailed plans and advanced warnings for over five months for the bombings of the embassies and the World Trade Center and nothing adequate was done to try to stop the bombings.
DOJ and FBI handling of an Egyptian, Ali Mohammed, who worked directly for Bin Laden and the CIA and the FBI and the Green Berets and was involved in Arab terrorist attacks against the World Trade Center and the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Ali first worked training Green Berets, then worked for the CIA before becoming an FBI operative out of Sacramento, California from 1992 to 1996. Ali was indicted in New York in late 1998 for helping Bin Laden do the bombings of the World Trade Center and the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. He was also indicted for setting up and training Bin Laden terrorist cells in the US. When arrested he had manuals for how to hide explosives in public buildings. He is suspected of helping Bin Laden by writing terrorist training manuals for Bin Laden.
DOJ was concerned how the DOJ could keep the public from knowing about the involvement of Middle Eastern men in the OKC bombing.
Details for last 2 counts in : [October 19, 2000] Gore and Clinton and Some of Their Associates Linked to Terrorist Groups?
Disbanded with security checks for incoming personnel by giving hundreds of people permenant "temporary passes". After a year there were still over 300. This prompted the House Commitee on Intelligence to threaten the FBI director to get him to ensure the security of documents in the White House (it is one of his duties) in late 1993, or early 1994. A copy of the letter was published by the WSJ
Clinton's senior people gave waivers for background investigations and access to CIA documents to fundraisers that were installed in administration positions.
Squashed security procedures to allow himself easier access to interns
Banned the CIA from using as informants anyone associated with human rights abuses or terrorism, and banned the recruitment of Chinese below the senior embassy official level.
Immediately diverted much of the intelligence budget to domestic surveillance, upon taking office. This accelerated after the OKC bombing.
Appointed, and left in place, people such as Hazel O'Leary who went on a declassification binge of technical documents. There are quotes suggesting that she was trying to declassify as much as she could before she was stopped.
Appointed people like Deutch who showed no particular interest in actual security, giving access to a laptop to uncleared people with classified work materials on it.
Repeatedly interfered with espionage cases that involved campaign contributors.
Mismanaged a haphazard opportunistic foreign policy, where foreign policy was conducted primarily for his own benefit, not the nation's or even his own party.
Used attacks to distract from personal political troubles.
Set up campaigns which used up immense resources, to prosecute incited wars, in a manner that was ineffective and demonstrated an exceptionally weak stomach for tolerance of casualties.
Encouraged policies which encouraged groups like the Palestinians to act falsely, thereby raising tensions on both sides, and reducing the chance of a stable peace.
Link
What a record!
while US president for 8 years, .....
Issued Executive Order 12866 and the change in the Federal Law relieving the FAA of their original responsibility for safety.
Decimated the budget for 'human' intelligence, including the infiltration of terrorist groups by informers.
Incited the Muslims with unannounced and unjustified attacks on an aspirin factory in Sudan, with civilian fatalities - (day before impeachment vote).
Ordered ineffective 'surgical' strikes at Bin Laden training camps in Afghanistan - (day before impeachment vote).
Intentionally failed to confront Iraq over its complicity in the embassy and WTC bombing and other attacks:
Covered-up Iraqi involvement in 1993 WTC Bombing and TWA 800 and OKC Bombing
Made the CIA and DOJ roles into a political joke
Launched bombing raids against civilians against so-called "terrorist training camps" supposedly under bin Laden's control in Afghanistan
Launched bombing raids against civilians against a purported "chemical weapons factory" in Sudan that almost certainly was no such thing.
Launched bombing raids against civilians
n the same day as Monica Lewinsky's grand jury testimony that she had engaged in sex with the president. Ordered bombings in Iraq the day before Congress was scheduled to vote on his impeachment.
Waged war for no compelling reason in the Balkans, and slaughtered civilians with the unprovoked bombings.
Announced a "War on Terrorism," yet prevented American intelligence from acquiring the kinds of assets it needed to do the job
Provided China with intelligence to pass on to Afghanistan
Rejected military strike on bin Laden during final days in office, after receiving intelligence on his whereabouts
Offered to reduce the sentences of 16 members of the Armed Forces of National Liberation, commonly known by its Spanish initials, FALN, on the condition they renounce violence. The group was involved in more than 100 bombings in the United States during the 1970s and 1980s. Hillary Clinton was then running for senatress in NY, with its large Puerto Rican population.
Made a "solemn promise" at Norfolk, Va. to the families, friends and shipmates of the USS Cole to avenge their deaths.
Sold Bin Ladin the communications equipment that couldn't be tapped
Supported the Taliban militia in Afghanistan; claimed by Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher: UPI / author Joe Warminsky / October 20, 1999.
New York Times: the FBI had detailed plans and advanced warnings for over five months for the bombings of the embassies and the World Trade Center and nothing adequate was done to try to stop the bombings.
DOJ and FBI handling of an Egyptian, Ali Mohammed, who worked directly for Bin Laden and the CIA and the FBI and the Green Berets and was involved in Arab terrorist attacks against the World Trade Center and the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Ali first worked training Green Berets, then worked for the CIA before becoming an FBI operative out of Sacramento, California from 1992 to 1996. Ali was indicted in New York in late 1998 for helping Bin Laden do the bombings of the World Trade Center and the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. He was also indicted for setting up and training Bin Laden terrorist cells in the US. When arrested he had manuals for how to hide explosives in public buildings. He is suspected of helping Bin Laden by writing terrorist training manuals for Bin Laden.
DOJ was concerned how the DOJ could keep the public from knowing about the involvement of Middle Eastern men in the OKC bombing.
Details for last 2 counts in : [October 19, 2000] Gore and Clinton and Some of Their Associates Linked to Terrorist Groups?
Disbanded with security checks for incoming personnel by giving hundreds of people permenant "temporary passes". After a year there were still over 300. This prompted the House Commitee on Intelligence to threaten the FBI director to get him to ensure the security of documents in the White House (it is one of his duties) in late 1993, or early 1994. A copy of the letter was published by the WSJ
Clinton's senior people gave waivers for background investigations and access to CIA documents to fundraisers that were installed in administration positions.
Squashed security procedures to allow himself easier access to interns
Banned the CIA from using as informants anyone associated with human rights abuses or terrorism, and banned the recruitment of Chinese below the senior embassy official level.
Immediately diverted much of the intelligence budget to domestic surveillance, upon taking office. This accelerated after the OKC bombing.
Appointed, and left in place, people such as Hazel O'Leary who went on a declassification binge of technical documents. There are quotes suggesting that she was trying to declassify as much as she could before she was stopped.
Appointed people like Deutch who showed no particular interest in actual security, giving access to a laptop to uncleared people with classified work materials on it.
Repeatedly interfered with espionage cases that involved campaign contributors.
Mismanaged a haphazard opportunistic foreign policy, where foreign policy was conducted primarily for his own benefit, not the nation's or even his own party.
Used attacks to distract from personal political troubles.
Set up campaigns which used up immense resources, to prosecute incited wars, in a manner that was ineffective and demonstrated an exceptionally weak stomach for tolerance of casualties.
Encouraged policies which encouraged groups like the Palestinians to act falsely, thereby raising tensions on both sides, and reducing the chance of a stable peace.
Link
What a record!
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and you sound like a stupid ass apologist who could justify handing over nerve gas against the worldwide communitys protests to a known tyrant like hussein to plant flowers in the shells.
or training terrorist cells under a whackjob like bin laden and expect them to throw flowers at the ones screwing them over after they have been used and forgotten about by reagan.
it was reagan who fanned the flames of "the new jihad" with bin laden and friends...
but then the ends justify the means in fighting the evil commies in the right wingers logic right?
even if it means training and teaching religious nuts in terrorist tactics to bring down a huge military and a world power and ignoring the fact that we are the only world power left dabbling in mideast policy, same crap they were so hopping mad about the soviets doing.
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