back on-topic, why is it that the same Republican congress is so incapable of balancing the budget today, especially with the even greater control that they have.
What "little wars" were before 9/11? Vietnam was all by the Dems. All the rebellions in the 90s in Bosnia were by the Dems. WWII? By the Dems
Reagan and Bush ENDED the cold war. The Dems liked to start other wars.
The balanced budget was driven by tax hikes. Who raised the taxes? Not the Republicans.
Revenues Outlays
1991 1,055.0 1,324.3 -269.3
1992 1,091.3 1,381.6 -290.3
1993 1,154.4 1,409.5 -255.1
1994 1,258.6 1,461.9 -203.2
1995 1,351.8 1,515.8 -164.0
1996 1,453.1 1,560.5 -107.5
1997 1,579.3 1,601.2 -21.9
http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index=1821&sequence=0
Outlays increased at nearly the same amount before and after the Republicans assumed control of the House in 1994. But what happened in 1993-1994?
It was a surprising tax hike that helped equalize the budget, as the Republicans ran and hid from the tax hike, while continuing to increase spending at the same amount as previous years.
Steeplerot
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reagan ended nothing, the war with afganistan and the PEOPLE ended the soviet iron grip just like the egged on war by the right in vietnam almost forced the PEOPLE to end OUR government in the early 70's and brought us worldwide shame and defeat. but he did turn the reputation of the conservative party into international gangsters and terrorists, and jfk was helping a nato ally out by training on a limited scale as the french backed out, it was lbj and nixon that blew it into a full scale conflict. The dems were assisinated one after another by rightwingnuts whenever they tried to put it to a end.
Rip posts a Freeper link for proof that Clinton was a bad president??!??!!?
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Originally posted by: Riprorin
William J. Clinton, an accessory and enabler of the 9/11 terrorist attacks,
while US president for 8 years, .....
Issued Executive Order 12866 and the change in the Federal Law relieving the FAA of their original responsibility for safety.
Decimated the budget for 'human' intelligence, including the infiltration of terrorist groups by informers.
Incited the Muslims with unannounced and unjustified attacks on an aspirin factory in Sudan, with civilian fatalities - (day before impeachment vote).
Ordered ineffective 'surgical' strikes at Bin Laden training camps in Afghanistan - (day before impeachment vote).
Intentionally failed to confront Iraq over its complicity in the embassy and WTC bombing and other attacks:
Covered-up Iraqi involvement in 1993 WTC Bombing and TWA 800 and OKC Bombing
Made the CIA and DOJ roles into a political joke
Launched bombing raids against civilians against so-called "terrorist training camps" supposedly under bin Laden's control in Afghanistan
Launched bombing raids against civilians against a purported "chemical weapons factory" in Sudan that almost certainly was no such thing.
Launched bombing raids against civiliansn the same day as Monica Lewinsky's grand jury testimony that she had engaged in sex with the president.
Ordered bombings in Iraq the day before Congress was scheduled to vote on his impeachment.
Waged war for no compelling reason in the Balkans, and slaughtered civilians with the unprovoked bombings.
Announced a "War on Terrorism," yet prevented American intelligence from acquiring the kinds of assets it needed to do the job
Provided China with intelligence to pass on to Afghanistan
Rejected military strike on bin Laden during final days in office, after receiving intelligence on his whereabouts
Offered to reduce the sentences of 16 members of the Armed Forces of National Liberation, commonly known by its Spanish initials, FALN, on the condition they renounce violence. The group was involved in more than 100 bombings in the United States during the 1970s and 1980s. Hillary Clinton was then running for senatress in NY, with its large Puerto Rican population.
Made a "solemn promise" at Norfolk, Va. to the families, friends and shipmates of the USS Cole to avenge their deaths.
Sold Bin Ladin the communications equipment that couldn't be tapped
Supported the Taliban militia in Afghanistan; claimed by Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher: UPI / author Joe Warminsky / October 20, 1999.
New York Times: the FBI had detailed plans and advanced warnings for over five months for the bombings of the embassies and the World Trade Center and nothing adequate was done to try to stop the bombings.
DOJ and FBI handling of an Egyptian, Ali Mohammed, who worked directly for Bin Laden and the CIA and the FBI and the Green Berets and was involved in Arab terrorist attacks against the World Trade Center and the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Ali first worked training Green Berets, then worked for the CIA before becoming an FBI operative out of Sacramento, California from 1992 to 1996. Ali was indicted in New York in late 1998 for helping Bin Laden do the bombings of the World Trade Center and the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. He was also indicted for setting up and training Bin Laden terrorist cells in the US. When arrested he had manuals for how to hide explosives in public buildings. He is suspected of helping Bin Laden by writing terrorist training manuals for Bin Laden.
DOJ was concerned how the DOJ could keep the public from knowing about the involvement of Middle Eastern men in the OKC bombing.
Details for last 2 counts in : [October 19, 2000] Gore and Clinton and Some of Their Associates Linked to Terrorist Groups?
Disbanded with security checks for incoming personnel by giving hundreds of people permenant "temporary passes". After a year there were still over 300. This prompted the House Commitee on Intelligence to threaten the FBI director to get him to ensure the security of documents in the White House (it is one of his duties) in late 1993, or early 1994. A copy of the letter was published by the WSJ
Clinton's senior people gave waivers for background investigations and access to CIA documents to fundraisers that were installed in administration positions.
Squashed security procedures to allow himself easier access to interns
Banned the CIA from using as informants anyone associated with human rights abuses or terrorism, and banned the recruitment of Chinese below the senior embassy official level.
Immediately diverted much of the intelligence budget to domestic surveillance, upon taking office. This accelerated after the OKC bombing.
Appointed, and left in place, people such as Hazel O'Leary who went on a declassification binge of technical documents. There are quotes suggesting that she was trying to declassify as much as she could before she was stopped.
Appointed people like Deutch who showed no particular interest in actual security, giving access to a laptop to uncleared people with classified work materials on it.
Repeatedly interfered with espionage cases that involved campaign contributors.
Mismanaged a haphazard opportunistic foreign policy, where foreign policy was conducted primarily for his own benefit, not the nation's or even his own party.
Used attacks to distract from personal political troubles.
Set up campaigns which used up immense resources, to prosecute incited wars, in a manner that was ineffective and demonstrated an exceptionally weak stomach for tolerance of casualties.
Encouraged policies which encouraged groups like the Palestinians to act falsely, thereby raising tensions on both sides, and reducing the chance of a stable peace.
Link
What a record!
Yes, I think that is the record for quoting stuff without any opinion added by the poster himself.
Ronald Reagan:
?A few months ago, I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that?s true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not.?
?A few months ago, I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that?s true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not.?
I like how Clinton is blamed for 9/11, yet there is not a mention of the blame that belongs to the man who was the actual president during the attack. Seems like maybe he's somewhat responsible, don't you think?
umbrella39
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The point is Clinton did not accomplish anything while in office, other than having Sexual relations with interns.
Even if this were true, I think most people prefer someone who doesn't do anything compared to a destructive maniac.
Seems like Clinton's military did wonderfully in Kosovo and Afghanistan. Bush's military is the one hung up in in Iraq.
Starbuck1975
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Given Clinton's handling of Somalia and the Balkans, it leaves little doubt that had 9/11 occurred on his watch, Clinton was just as capable at committing a foreign policy in response to the Al Quaida threat.
It is a bit misdirected to blame any Preisdent or individual alone for 9/11...bureaucracy within our intelligence communities and an uneassy transition between the Clinton and Bush administrations were just two of numerous factors that allowed 9/11 to happen.
America's observer status in Vietnam began under Eisenhower...Kennedy misunderstood the nuances of wars on the periphery, and certainly did nothing to prevent the escalation of our involvement in Vietnam.
You also fail to mention Bay of Pigs, another Kennedy foreign policy "victory."
The development and training of black ops units, particularly those involved in the "nation building" missions in Latin America, was also was a product of the Kennedy administration.
The brother Kennedy's were assasinated because of their father's ties to organized crime...the Kennedy fortune was made through bootlegging...you liberals bitch about wealthy Republicans, yet how is the Kennedy family any better...the Kennedy brothers have numerous political scandals split between them...any one of those scandals resulted in their assasination.
Starbuck1975
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Clinton inherited the highly trained, well equipped and extremely professional volunteer military that faced down the Soviet threat during the Cold War and decisively won the first Gulf War...with that military, Clinton:
- Overextended and demoralized it with extended deployments to peacekeeping missions in Bosnia and Kosovo that were of no strategic interest to the United States.
- Bloodied our most elite and highly trained soldiers in Somalia
- Invested significantly in Air Force "smart bomb" solutions as an alternative to placing soldiers on the ground, which became his strategic vision for dealing with Saddam Hussein
- Failed to envision a post Cold War force structure for the military, and sacked those military leaders that proposed significant expenditures for transforming our military into a lighter and more lethal force.
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