Clinton unveils plan to stimulate economy

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: Pabster
This is gonna be great!

Free health care ... Baby Bonds ... Retirement ... "Recession Rebates" ... America, FUCK YEAH! :laugh:

I'm so quitting my job.

 

[CPA]

Rebates, eh......wasn't the reaction from the left complete outrage when Bush did this several years ago?

 

[Engineer]

I'm not sure what's so different about what she proposed and what BushCo was proposing a day or two before that. Both are advocating giving bulk tax checks back at the expense of the debt.

More tax money back to me at the expense of the debt?

Where can I sign up!!!

Originally posted by: CPA
Rebates, eh......wasn't the reaction from the left complete outrage when Bush did this several years ago?

You're right. They preach the fiscally conservative bullshit and then offer it themselves. Of course, Bush is also looking at doing something along those same lines.

Again, piss on it. Where can I sign up. I may vote for who gives me the most! :Q

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: BoomerD
I see folks from the right bitching about Clinton wanting to borrow money to pay the bills and help Americans...isn't that what GWB has been doing for the past seven years? The big difference is that Clinton's plan might help working men & women in this country instead of Halliburton and the rest of King George's corporate friends...

To me, if we're going to be taxed for welfare, I'd rather see it go to the poorer people who might use it to increase their lot in life than to somr rich fat-cat...
We The People...not We The Corporations.

Those of us who are real conservatives are ticked off at both. Don't drag us into the faux Republican group.

QFT!

 

[LegendKiller]

How about we let the economy go through a recession once in a while. It might, ya know, restore balance?

 

[Moonbeam]

Moonbeam Pharmaceuticals stock has risen 500% since we started selling Anti-Hillary stomach upset pills.

We're about to open a new line of Hillary Conniption Fit Salves with real monkey testosterone and boar pheromones in it.

 

[palehorse]

More taxes on the middle class!? WOOT WOOT!

More free handouts and band-aids for those who couldnt make a responsible fiscal decision to save their lives!? WOOT WOOT!

bah...

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
How about we let the economy go through a recession once in a while. It might, ya know, restore balance?

Because balance doesn't buy votes. Rebates do. :laugh:

 

[Slew Foot]

Fuck you Clinton. Where's my bailout? Here I am trying to save money like a sucker, and you go piss it away to a bunch of morons. Fuck you.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Fuck you Clinton. Where's my bailout? Here I am trying to save money like a sucker, and you go piss it away to a bunch of morons. Fuck you.

But the underlying foundations of socialism is that people cannot regulate themselves; government tells them what is right and wrong. Obviously people must be protected from themselves and without government we would not be able to survive :roll:

I think it'd be terrible to be an American these days, there's a huge disincentive to save in that country. Mortgage interest is tax deductable (discourages repaying mortgage), the dow barely outpaced inflation, interest rates are lower than inflation...why would anyone save, invest or pay off debt given that sort of environment??

 

[theeedude]

Republicans created this subprime mess, of course their solution is to bash Hillary's plan and do nothing for 15 years, as usual

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Republicans created this subprime mess, of course their solution is to bash Hillary's plan and do nothing for 15 years, as usual

Both parties are to blame. The country is quickly headed toward bankruptcy. The federal government must go on a strict diet, or it will die.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp
Republicans created this subprime mess, of course their solution is to bash Hillary's plan and do nothing for 15 years, as usual

Both parties are to blame. The country is quickly headed toward bankruptcy. The federal government must go on a strict diet, or it will die.

We need to end Iraq and let Bush tax cuts expire, first and foremost.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp
Republicans created this subprime mess, of course their solution is to bash Hillary's plan and do nothing for 15 years, as usual

Both parties are to blame. The country is quickly headed toward bankruptcy. The federal government must go on a strict diet, or it will die.

We need to end Iraq and let Bush tax cuts expire, first and foremost.

I agree, 100%. But that doesn't even begin to solve the financial crisis that is about to hit this country, and hard.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp
Republicans created this subprime mess, of course their solution is to bash Hillary's plan and do nothing for 15 years, as usual

Both parties are to blame. The country is quickly headed toward bankruptcy. The federal government must go on a strict diet, or it will die.

We need to end Iraq and let Bush tax cuts expire, first and foremost.

I agree, 100%. But that doesn't even begin to solve the financial crisis that is about to hit this country, and hard.

Yeah, we need to raise the taxes.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp
Republicans created this subprime mess, of course their solution is to bash Hillary's plan and do nothing for 15 years, as usual

Both parties are to blame. The country is quickly headed toward bankruptcy. The federal government must go on a strict diet, or it will die.

We need to end Iraq and let Bush tax cuts expire, first and foremost.

I agree, 100%. But that doesn't even begin to solve the financial crisis that is about to hit this country, and hard.

Yeah, we need to raise the taxes.

And let Medicare negotiate drug prices. Pretty much undo all the "accomplishments" of the Bush administration.

 

[fskimospy]

This is another fun thread to watch. I like watching all the Ayn Randian self made men froth about taxes that they seem to have little knowledge about. More taxes for the middle class? Her plan calls for middle class tax cuts.

Don't let me stop the circle jerk though, if only our country had more men like you guys in it... you know the real workers that prop the system up... then things would be ok.

Oh yeah, and lets get rid of all the illegal immigrants too. I'm not sure how they are part of this problem, but lets get em anyway!

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp
Republicans created this subprime mess, of course their solution is to bash Hillary's plan and do nothing for 15 years, as usual

Both parties are to blame. The country is quickly headed toward bankruptcy. The federal government must go on a strict diet, or it will die.

We need to end Iraq and let Bush tax cuts expire, first and foremost.

I agree, 100%. But that doesn't even begin to solve the financial crisis that is about to hit this country, and hard.

Total household net worth is approx. 55.6 trillion $ (Net worth ? the difference between households' total assets, such as houses and bank accounts, and their total liabilities, such as mortgages and credit card debt, totaled $55.6 trillion in the October-to-December quarter.)

Gdp per capita income is 43,300
Interest on goverment debt(@4.5%) is 3.12% of per capita income.

~~~Wake me up when there is a real financial crisis~~~

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
This is another fun thread to watch. I like watching all the Ayn Randian self made men froth about taxes that they seem to have little knowledge about. More taxes for the middle class? Her plan calls for middle class tax cuts.

Don't let me stop the circle jerk though, if only our country had more men like you guys in it... you know the real workers that prop the system up... then things would be ok.

Oh yeah, and lets get rid of all the illegal immigrants too. I'm not sure how they are part of this problem, but lets get em anyway!

Well, when you knowingly put a bunch of leeches on your arm to cure what ails you, and find them sucking more blood than you can replace, you are likely going to die.

 

[Slew Foot]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp
Republicans created this subprime mess, of course their solution is to bash Hillary's plan and do nothing for 15 years, as usual

Both parties are to blame. The country is quickly headed toward bankruptcy. The federal government must go on a strict diet, or it will die.

We need to end Iraq and let Bush tax cuts expire, first and foremost.

I agree, 100%. But that doesn't even begin to solve the financial crisis that is about to hit this country, and hard.

Total household net worth is approx. 55.6 trillion $ (Net worth ? the difference between households' total assets, such as houses and bank accounts, and their total liabilities, such as mortgages and credit card debt, totaled $55.6 trillion in the October-to-December quarter.)

Gdp per capita income is 43,300
Interest on goverment debt(@4.5%) is 3.12% of per capita income.

~~~Wake me up when there is a real financial crisis~~~

My guess to that is that the total household net worth is EXTREMELY concentrated into the hands of the upper elite. The average Joe gets by with a negative savings rate and a credit card that is getting maxed out.

What exactly is GDP per capita income? There's GDP per capita, and per capita income , and household income, but I havent heard of combining any of those.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp
Republicans created this subprime mess, of course their solution is to bash Hillary's plan and do nothing for 15 years, as usual

Both parties are to blame. The country is quickly headed toward bankruptcy. The federal government must go on a strict diet, or it will die.

We need to end Iraq and let Bush tax cuts expire, first and foremost.

I agree, 100%. But that doesn't even begin to solve the financial crisis that is about to hit this country, and hard.

Total household net worth is approx. 55.6 trillion $ (Net worth ? the difference between households' total assets, such as houses and bank accounts, and their total liabilities, such as mortgages and credit card debt, totaled $55.6 trillion in the October-to-December quarter.)

Gdp per capita income is 43,300
Interest on goverment debt(@4.5%) is 3.12% of per capita income.

~~~Wake me up when there is a real financial crisis~~~

David Walker is trying to wake you up now.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: eskimospy
This is another fun thread to watch. I like watching all the Ayn Randian self made men froth about taxes that they seem to have little knowledge about. More taxes for the middle class? Her plan calls for middle class tax cuts.

Don't let me stop the circle jerk though, if only our country had more men like you guys in it... you know the real workers that prop the system up... then things would be ok.

Oh yeah, and lets get rid of all the illegal immigrants too. I'm not sure how they are part of this problem, but lets get em anyway!

Well, when you knowingly put a bunch of leeches on your arm to cure what ails you, and find them sucking more blood than you can replace, you are likely going to die.

That would be a good point if it were even remotely true or applicable to illegal immigrants.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp
Republicans created this subprime mess, of course their solution is to bash Hillary's plan and do nothing for 15 years, as usual

Both parties are to blame. The country is quickly headed toward bankruptcy. The federal government must go on a strict diet, or it will die.

We need to end Iraq and let Bush tax cuts expire, first and foremost.

I agree, 100%. But that doesn't even begin to solve the financial crisis that is about to hit this country, and hard.

Total household net worth is approx. 55.6 trillion $ (Net worth ? the difference between households' total assets, such as houses and bank accounts, and their total liabilities, such as mortgages and credit card debt, totaled $55.6 trillion in the October-to-December quarter.)

Gdp per capita income is 43,300
Interest on goverment debt(@4.5%) is 3.12% of per capita income.

~~~Wake me up when there is a real financial crisis~~~

David Walker is trying to wake you up now.

So what's your answer? Kill SS and medicare (and the people on them)?

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp
Republicans created this subprime mess, of course their solution is to bash Hillary's plan and do nothing for 15 years, as usual

Both parties are to blame. The country is quickly headed toward bankruptcy. The federal government must go on a strict diet, or it will die.

We need to end Iraq and let Bush tax cuts expire, first and foremost.

I agree, 100%. But that doesn't even begin to solve the financial crisis that is about to hit this country, and hard.

Total household net worth is approx. 55.6 trillion $ (Net worth ? the difference between households' total assets, such as houses and bank accounts, and their total liabilities, such as mortgages and credit card debt, totaled $55.6 trillion in the October-to-December quarter.)

Gdp per capita income is 43,300
Interest on goverment debt(@4.5%) is 3.12% of per capita income.

~~~Wake me up when there is a real financial crisis~~~

David Walker is trying to wake you up now.

A future obigation or promise (especially a government one) is not debt, and does not contribute to the current financial solvency. All those numbers are just scaring you because they are big.

~~~Think BIG, like this. You are at the supper table, along with 300,000,000 other people. You order what you want to eat, and get it in 15 minutes, along with the other 300,000,000 people.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: eskimospy
This is another fun thread to watch. I like watching all the Ayn Randian self made men froth about taxes that they seem to have little knowledge about. More taxes for the middle class? Her plan calls for middle class tax cuts.

Don't let me stop the circle jerk though, if only our country had more men like you guys in it... you know the real workers that prop the system up... then things would be ok.

Oh yeah, and lets get rid of all the illegal immigrants too. I'm not sure how they are part of this problem, but lets get em anyway!

Well, when you knowingly put a bunch of leeches on your arm to cure what ails you, and find them sucking more blood than you can replace, you are likely going to die.

That would be a good point if it were even remotely true or applicable to illegal immigrants.

When people show up at your party uninvited are you obligated to let them stay? They just want to have a little fun and they're not hurting anything.