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Clinton tax forms released

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Dari

The Devil's in the detail.

Originally posted by: Dari

Well, I haven't looked at it and I don't plan to. But, considering this could've been done a long time ago and, sensing the timing, I'm sure there's something there. No doubt there will be questions raised. Right now, we're hearing the spin from Hillary's camp but give it time.

Spin from Hillarty's camp???? Try just the facts. Your the one trying to spin it based on absolutely nothing but your own hot air.

People like you are just a good example of why not to support Obama. Did Bush talk to God and then pass some of that secret info on to you or what?

Keep up the good work troll!!

lol. I'm sure you had your reasons before I ever came along. But keep pretending I'm the reason why:laugh:
 
The thing missing from your theory is something wrong in her return she's trying to hide.
I would suggest that her delay in releasing such information is cause enough to fuel such speculation.

If it had a donation to the KKK, you would have a point, but you don't seem to.
My point is quite simply that I do not trust the Clintons...I doubt very highly there is a donation to the KKK, but it will be interesting to see who is filling their coffers.
 
Originally posted by: Superrock
If I made 109 mil I wouldn't have a problem paying 30% in taxes...

Most people at any income level want to pay lower taxes. The problem is, it's a lot more unfair for some than others - and only some are powerful enough to get their way.
 
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
The thing missing from your theory is something wrong in her return she's trying to hide.
I would suggest that her delay in releasing such information is cause enough to fuel such speculation.

Please use the quote system and attribute the quotes.

It's enough to fuel speculation until they're released, but not after.
 
Due to legal fees, the Clintons were in deep debt after Mr Clinton left office. They worked hard to give themselves the quality of life they wanted.

Looking at the numbers in the OP, the Clntons paid their taxes and donated around 10% of their income to charity.

Good for them.
 
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Due to legal fees, the Clintons were in deep debt after Mr Clinton left office. They worked hard to give themselves the quality of life they wanted.

Looking at the numbers in the OP, the Clntons paid their taxes and donated around 10% of their income to charity.

Good for them.

Good for them, INDEED! The $10.2 million in charitable contributions, WAS MADE TO THEMSELVES!!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04...MYWAY&pagewanted=print
 
The Clintons took a tax deduction in 2004 for $2.5 million in charitable gifts, $2 million of which went to their family foundation, which as a tax-exempt nonprofit is considered a charity under the tax code. That same year, the foundation gave away just $221,000 to charitable groups, according to its tax return.

Uh-huh. Pretty much as I expected. In fact, Drudge reports in 2006 all their charitable givings were to the Clinton Foundation. I wonder how much the foundation dispersed in '06?
 
Where does I am surprised they released it so early come from? The Clinton tax return was almost certainly put together by accounts and not the Clinton's, they beat the deadline by only 10 days, and I hardly think they rushed to file early to get the $600 per person big tax rebate.

Lots of ways to get political spin mileage out of what is known so far and for both sides, but in terms of contesting the facts, that is going to take much more number crunching and vetting facts to make into a credible case. This is just the feeble efforts before the storm that may be coming later. And will probably center on what is declarable income.

Nor can the Friday release date have much effect when the battle grounds will be Hillary primary votes still way over two weeks away. Then there is the other issue, this is supposed to be between God and the IRS. And if the GWB administration or the IRS goes leaking details to anyone, there may be hell to pay questions on who leaked?
 
I also have to love the line in the blog. There is 18 million missing but the 18 million is accounted for in the their return or words to that effect.

18 million missing is shocking but suddenly its not missing because its accounted for. Which means there was no missing 18 million in the first place is the way I have to read it.

And the other theme of this thread is this somehow this somehow reflects on Obama and his supporters credibility?
 
Originally posted by: boomerang
So what. I'm still not voting for her lying, cheating, stealing, murdering, teary-eyed fat ass.

Can't find anything in the tax forms so it's back to making shit up, huh?
Damn that Ken Starr, he must've been paid off by the Clintons to not find any evidence.

Originally posted by: Pabster

$18 million unaccounted for...
Where's The Clinton Cash?

There is nothing unaccounted for. Some things are not included in the summary but everything is accounted for in the returns. Most of the $18M, not shown in the summary, looks like fairly run-of-the-mill investment income.

Originally posted by: runzwithsizorz
Good for them, INDEED! The $10.2 million in charitable contributions, WAS MADE TO THEMSELVES!!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04...MYWAY&pagewanted=print

The charitable contributions went to the Clinton Foundation which is involved in things like Disaster relief (tsunami, Katrina), HIV/AIDS treatment/prevention, Energy and Climate Change, Global Health, Poverty Alleviation, Education....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Foundation
 
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Dari

The Devil's in the detail.

Originally posted by: Dari

Well, I haven't looked at it and I don't plan to. But, considering this could've been done a long time ago and, sensing the timing, I'm sure there's something there. No doubt there will be questions raised. Right now, we're hearing the spin from Hillary's camp but give it time.

Spin from Hillarty's camp???? Try just the facts. Your the one trying to spin it based on absolutely nothing but your own hot air.

People like you are just a good example of why not to support Obama. Did Bush talk to God and then pass some of that secret info on to you or what?

Keep up the good work troll!!

lol. I'm sure you had your reasons before I ever came along. But keep pretending I'm the reason why:laugh:

Keep pretending I said you were MY reason why. I said people like you, not YOU in particular. You just happen to be a prime example. 😛

You give yourself WAY too much credit. Besides, I have more then just one reason for not supporting Obama, many more. Your feeble logic is rather amusing to watch. :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: dennilfloss
No. To their foundation as explained at the end of your link. :roll:

Lol, like that makes it any better. I heard an AP story on the radio today that they gave 10 million to charity and absolutely no mention about the 18 mil unaccounted for.

Were that a republican they would have skewered them with the facts.
 
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: dennilfloss
No. To their foundation as explained at the end of your link. :roll:

Lol, like that makes it any better. I heard an AP story on the radio today that they gave 10 million to charity and absolutely no mention about the 18 mil unaccounted for.

Were that a republican they would have skewered them with the facts.

The AP story you heard didn't mention the 18 mil unaccounted for because there is nothing that is unaccounted for. The reporter is not hiding anything from you. There just isn't a story to tell. All of the income is accounted for in the tax returns.

Aside from the IRS, there are millions of news researchers, amateur accountants, and just plain Clinton haters going over those forms with a fine tooth comb right now. They may be able to spin some kind of story out of them but this one ain't it.
 
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Where does I am surprised they released it so early come from? The Clinton tax return was almost certainly put together by accounts and not the Clinton's, they beat the deadline by only 10 days, and I hardly think they rushed to file early to get the $600 per person big tax rebate.
-snip-

If you're referring to me, I'm a tax CPA and know something about the matter.

Among other things, I understand that they are partners in one or more partnerships. These are often put on an extension, and their filing deadline is not until 4/15. Most partners end up on extension.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: RY62
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: dennilfloss
No. To their foundation as explained at the end of your link. :roll:

Lol, like that makes it any better. I heard an AP story on the radio today that they gave 10 million to charity and absolutely no mention about the 18 mil unaccounted for.

Were that a republican they would have skewered them with the facts.

The AP story you heard didn't mention the 18 mil unaccounted for because there is nothing that is unaccounted for. The reporter is not hiding anything from you. There just isn't a story to tell. All of the income is accounted for in the tax returns.

Aside from the IRS, there are millions of news researchers, amateur accountants, and just plain Clinton haters going over those forms with a fine tooth comb right now. They may be able to spin some kind of story out of them but this one ain't it.

Where did the 18 million unaccounted for come from? Where is that 18 million from?
 
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: RY62
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: dennilfloss
No. To their foundation as explained at the end of your link. :roll:

Lol, like that makes it any better. I heard an AP story on the radio today that they gave 10 million to charity and absolutely no mention about the 18 mil unaccounted for.

Were that a republican they would have skewered them with the facts.

The AP story you heard didn't mention the 18 mil unaccounted for because there is nothing that is unaccounted for. The reporter is not hiding anything from you. There just isn't a story to tell. All of the income is accounted for in the tax returns.

Aside from the IRS, there are millions of news researchers, amateur accountants, and just plain Clinton haters going over those forms with a fine tooth comb right now. They may be able to spin some kind of story out of them but this one ain't it.

Where did the 18 million unaccounted for come from? Where is that 18 million from?

What about the billions spent on a lie by your President?
 
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Dari

The Devil's in the detail.

Originally posted by: Dari

Well, I haven't looked at it and I don't plan to. But, considering this could've been done a long time ago and, sensing the timing, I'm sure there's something there. No doubt there will be questions raised. Right now, we're hearing the spin from Hillary's camp but give it time.

Spin from Hillarty's camp???? Try just the facts. Your the one trying to spin it based on absolutely nothing but your own hot air.

People like you are just a good example of why not to support Obama. Did Bush talk to God and then pass some of that secret info on to you or what?

Keep up the good work troll!!

lol. I'm sure you had your reasons before I ever came along. But keep pretending I'm the reason why:laugh:

Keep pretending I said you were MY reason why. I said people like you, not YOU in particular. You just happen to be a prime example. 😛

You give yourself WAY too much credit. Besides, I have more then just one reason for not supporting Obama, many more. Your feeble logic is rather amusing to watch. :laugh:

I'm glad I'm providing entertainment to take away the tears of watching your cold bitch lose the Democratic candidacy.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: RY62
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: dennilfloss
No. To their foundation as explained at the end of your link. :roll:

Lol, like that makes it any better. I heard an AP story on the radio today that they gave 10 million to charity and absolutely no mention about the 18 mil unaccounted for.

Were that a republican they would have skewered them with the facts.

The AP story you heard didn't mention the 18 mil unaccounted for because there is nothing that is unaccounted for. The reporter is not hiding anything from you. There just isn't a story to tell. All of the income is accounted for in the tax returns.

Aside from the IRS, there are millions of news researchers, amateur accountants, and just plain Clinton haters going over those forms with a fine tooth comb right now. They may be able to spin some kind of story out of them but this one ain't it.

Where did the 18 million unaccounted for come from? Where is that 18 million from?

What about the billions spent on a lie by your President?

I guess he'll have to lie first. There was more than a "made in USA" sign pointing to WMD's in Iraq.

I hope this wasn't a serious response to my question though, because I really want to know where those 18 Billion come from or went and why the story even came up to begin with.
 
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: RY62
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: dennilfloss
No. To their foundation as explained at the end of your link. :roll:

Lol, like that makes it any better. I heard an AP story on the radio today that they gave 10 million to charity and absolutely no mention about the 18 mil unaccounted for.

Were that a republican they would have skewered them with the facts.

The AP story you heard didn't mention the 18 mil unaccounted for because there is nothing that is unaccounted for. The reporter is not hiding anything from you. There just isn't a story to tell. All of the income is accounted for in the tax returns.

Aside from the IRS, there are millions of news researchers, amateur accountants, and just plain Clinton haters going over those forms with a fine tooth comb right now. They may be able to spin some kind of story out of them but this one ain't it.

Where did the 18 million unaccounted for come from? Where is that 18 million from?


The $18 million is mostly run of the mill investment income that was not listed in a summary that was released by the Clinton camp.

Some people must have jumped on it as a story without checking to see that it is accounted for on the actual tax returns.
 
Originally posted by: runzwithsizorz
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Due to legal fees, the Clintons were in deep debt after Mr Clinton left office. They worked hard to give themselves the quality of life they wanted.

Looking at the numbers in the OP, the Clntons paid their taxes and donated around 10% of their income to charity.

Good for them.

Good for them, INDEED! The $10.2 million in charitable contributions, WAS MADE TO THEMSELVES!!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04...MYWAY&pagewanted=print

Originally posted by: dennilfloss
No. To their foundation as explained at the end of your link. :roll:

But that's precisely what a Private Foundation is, and why they have special rules in the tax code.

I think the private foundation should be scruntinized, as I think all of them should be. There's far too much opportunity for shenanigans.

During that time, the Clintons paid $33.8 million in federal taxes and claimed deductions for $10.2 million in charitable contributions. The contributions went to a family foundation run by the Clintons that has given away only about half of the money they put into it, and most of that was last year, after Mrs. Clinton declared her candidacy.

I'd like to see where the money went.

(The reason they gave more in charitable contributions during low income years, and less in high income years, was to maximize the tax effect of the donation. In higher income years your phase-out of itemized deductions is greater - meaning less tax benefits. But there's nothing wrong with that.)

Fern
 
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