Clinton News Network (CNN) is now as bad as Fox

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nakedfrog

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Since the advent of google, this has ceased to matter for me. Google is my news presenter. This is kind of scary in some ways. I trust them to provide the reality of my world.
Indeed, as it's likely employing some sort of formula to present the reality it thinks you want to see.
 

TheGardener

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I find it irritating as hell that the U.K. sourced media outlets have more in depth reporting on US stories, IMHO, the US media is horrible

I find the Daily Mail will carry US news stories that the US mainstream media will often bury or not carry.
 
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Kazukian

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Indeed, as it's likely employing some sort of formula to present the reality it thinks you want to see.

I quit using Google for about 90% of web use, I really don't like my data filtered and edited that much, the whole editing search term predictions really pisses me off.

If I want to see "shaved camel nipples", I don't want Google not autocompleting it for me!!!! (Or keeping a record of it)
 

1prophet

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http://www.medialit.org/reading-room/whatever-happened-news
Whatever Happened to the News?
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When hard news goes soft, entertainment takes over.

By Daniel Hallin


News has always mixed the serious and the entertaining. The tension between journalism and commercialism goes back long before television, but it is felt with special intensity in television news today.

In the early 1960s the networks, hugely profitable but worried about their images and about regulatory pressures, expanded their news operations and largely freed them from the pressures of commercial television. The "church" of news was to be separated from the "state" of entertainment.

In the 1970s and '80s, however, the barrier between news and entertainment has been increasingly eroded. Not all the changes of these years have been for the worse. But taken together, they raise serious questions about the future of journalism in an entertainment-dominated medium. A recent edition of the news tabloid A Current Affair, for example, ended with the tease "Coming up – sex, murder and videotape, that's next!" It may be that this is indeed the future of television news.

It was the local stations that first discovered, late in the 1960s, that news could make money– lots of money. By the end of the '70s, news was frequently producing 60 percent of a station's profits. With numbers like that, news was much "too important" to leave to journalists, and a heavily entertainment-oriented form of programming began to evolve. Often it was contrasted directly with the network news. 'Feel like you're getting a bad deal from poker-faced TV news reporters?" asked San Francisco's KGO in one ad, "Then let the Channel 7 Gang deal you in. They're not afraid to be friendly."
"When you mix fiction and news, you diminish the distinction between truth and fiction, and you wear down the audience's own discriminating power to judge."
–Bill Moyers
Read the rest at the link to understand how far down news reporting has fallen, for the same reason many of the other once great institutions in this country have fallen, the love of money.
 

agent00f

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No, my beef with them (and the reason I haven't watched more than a minute or two in years) is that they are not a real news organization. They mostly spew partisan drivel, much like cnn, msnbc, abc, nbc, cbs etc. I personally prefer an organization that actually focuses on news instead of the politics or narrative behind the news. That's increasingly difficult to find.

CNN and most mainstream corp sources just regurgitate canned news. This material is created in large part by the public relations industry. It's cheap to produce because the talking heads are paid for by someone else in a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship. There's no money in investigating or teaching people anything, people would rather spend their time and earnings on the latest shiny trinkets and validating their simple beliefs.
 

PokerGuy

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Since the advent of google, this has ceased to matter for me. Google is my news presenter. This is kind of scary in some ways. I trust them to provide the reality of my world.

Google is fine as a way to find things, but trusting them as your news source is a very bad idea. They are 100% in the bag for libs, they are part of the illary campaign and have been manipulating search results consistently for years to push crappy lib ideas and political correctness..... "trust" is not a word I would ever use when talking about google.
 

sportage

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We need Walter Cronkite, David Brinkley, Chet Huntley, John Chancellor, Peter Jennings, Daniel Schorr.
Not that they'd give Trump a pass, they would come down on Trump like flies on horse manure.
And with all of the above having lived thru the horrors of WWII, Pearl Harbor, Vietnam, the draft and massive American loss of life, they would hold Trump fully accountable for every single brain fart and nonsense that came out of Trump's mouth.
Unlike today where the Trump team, Rudy Giuliani, and VP Pence can spew any nonsense they want with defending the indefensible, and the media never once question the validity of a single word.
Donald Trump would be held accountable, and Hillary too.
We would know the difference between choosing a complete blowhard psychopath or choosing an experienced former first lady.
And there is a difference.
I don't think voters really want to discover the difference the hard way.
And if you love Trump because you feel America has somehow let you down, in some way, then Mexico is to the south and Canada to the north.
Not that immigrating to either would necessarily brighten your future.
You may be looking for something even further away, like Putin territory?
 

ivwshane

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Google is fine as a way to find things, but trusting them as your news source is a very bad idea. They are 100% in the bag for libs, they are part of the illary campaign and have been manipulating search results consistently for years to push crappy lib ideas and political correctness..... "trust" is not a word I would ever use when talking about google.

I'm curious, who, in your mind, isn't in the bag for liberals?
 

trenchfoot

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Looking for the truth and the facts of the matter is supposed to be as important or even more important than reporting the truth and facts of the matter at hand.

With that in mind, I see that it's a binding relationship that more often than not gets horribly abused by both partners.

I want a divorce, or at the least, sole possession of the remote control.
 

Ackmed

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Most news sites lead one way or the other, most have agendas. Which is pretty sad. CNN leads left, Fox leans right. Its pretty obvious and I suspect just well known by now.

Today a news headline is, "Cop shoots black man", (paraphrase, was at the gym and saw on the screen) the cop was black too but omitted. Previous shootings where, 'White cop shoots black man", race of cop identified. Not as many hits if its a black cop. Never mind the fact that you don't see the same headlines when a white, or other race than black gets shot by cops. Quite often the omit parts of story or headline to fit their agenda.
 

ivwshane

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Most news sites lead one way or the other, most have agendas. Which is pretty sad. CNN leads left, Fox leans right. Its pretty obvious and I suspect just well known by now.

Today a news headline is, "Cop shoots black man", (paraphrase, was at the gym and saw on the screen) the cop was black too but omitted. Previous shootings where, 'White cop shoots black man", race of cop identified. Not as many hits if its a black cop. Never mind the fact that you don't see the same headlines when a white, or other race than black gets shot by cops. Quite often the omit parts of story or headline to fit their agenda.

Do you think black people are only upset because white officers are shooting them? That might explain your ignorance on the subject.
 

Ackmed

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Do you think black people are only upset because white officers are shooting them? That might explain your ignorance on the subject.

It's not ignorance. Everyone should be upset if wrongly shot by the cops. I suspect people of all races are "upset" for various reasons.

The fact is, very often news will headline that a white cop shot a black person, but not say a black cop shot a black person. If you can't see the bias in that, then oh well. Or perhaps you have an explanation for this, and think omitting facts is a good thing?
 

0roo0roo

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Indeed, as it's likely employing some sort of formula to present the reality it thinks you want to see.

All the social media companies do this, and likely google as well.
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http://theralphretort.com/busted-go...oring-reuters-story-vindicated-trump-8011016/
http://theralphretort.com/desperate...ly-sending-emails-trump-campaign-spam-folder/
http://theralphretort.com/busted-google-news-caught-censoring-stories-ferguson-blm-shooting-8010016/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...midts-the-groundwork-failing-hillary-clinton/
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All "mistakes" in one direction of course

Julian Assange exposes Google's political ties to Hillary Clinton & Obama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOkLVHE66vU

Eben Moglen - Freedom of Thought Requires Free Media
https://youtu.be/sKOk4Y4inVY
 

agent00f

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Perhaps if all the educated and smart people prefer one thing over another that can be a clue as to which is better or makes more sense.
 

MongGrel

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The whole thread was a farce to begin with from the moment the OP posted Clinton News Network to begin with.

Just FUD.
 

agent00f

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People who don't know how anything works are particularly susceptible to propaganda. Like, these people read breitbart and think it's better than what they're getting from what breitbart tells them is the commie education system. They mostly didn't do well in school anyway so that perfectly justifies their educational failure, a mark of pride even.
 

nakedfrog

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That's not what I see when I search that, which was exactly what I was saying.

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