Clinton foundation email release

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buckshot24

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That's a dodge, not an answer.




So, it's all a giant conspiracy including the FBI. But you "won't think less of the FBI" because your whole song & dance is based on them being corrupt in the first place.

That's the kind of accusation you have to kinda ease your way into, huh?
He's kind of up there looking for bubble gum behind the grassy knoll on this if you ask me. I don't think Obama is really a fan of Hillary and won't protect her if there is adequate justification for indictment.
 

ivwshane

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Are you saying Hillary would have been indicted long ago if she weren't Hillary?

No, I said you are a nobody in a position of irrelevance. I'm not sure where you pulled that buckshat from.
 
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ivwshane

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He's kind of up there looking for bubble gum behind the grassy knoll on this if you ask me. I don't think Obama is really a fan of Hillary and won't protect her if there is adequate justification for indictment.

Obama isn't really a fan of Hillary, the same Hillary he made his secretary of state? That's a new one.
 

buckshot24

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Obama isn't really a fan of Hillary, the same Hillary he made his secretary of state? That's a new one.
There are other ways to explain that. Just speculating and doing a bit of grassy knoll adventures myself. The main point is I don't think he will protect her from prosecution if it comes to that. Do you think he'd nix indictments if they really are warranted?
 

Knowing

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I'd be in jail if I did what Hillary did when I was in the service. At work I'd be in jail or suffering heinous fines (or both) if I did what Hillary did. I just keep reminding myself that rules are for little people and avoiding the appearance of conflicts of interest is only for the military.
 

buckshot24

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I'd be in jail if I did what Hillary did when I was in the service. At work I'd be in jail or suffering heinous fines (or both) if I did what Hillary did. I just keep reminding myself that rules are for little people and avoiding the appearance of conflicts of interest is only for the military.
No doubt about it.
 

werepossum

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I'd be in jail if I did what Hillary did when I was in the service. At work I'd be in jail or suffering heinous fines (or both) if I did what Hillary did. I just keep reminding myself that rules are for little people and avoiding the appearance of conflicts of interest is only for the military.
Agreed, but the long arm of political cover is, well, long. Look at Sandy Berger - he admitted stealing and destroying unique classified documents and escaped without punishment. But as Petraeus learned, it does not extend to the military.
 

fskimospy

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I'd be in jail if I did what Hillary did when I was in the service. At work I'd be in jail or suffering heinous fines (or both) if I did what Hillary did. I just keep reminding myself that rules are for little people and avoiding the appearance of conflicts of interest is only for the military.

Would you now? I worked extensively with classified information in the service. What regulations are you referring to specifically?
 

werepossum

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Would you now? I worked extensively with classified information in the service. What regulations are you referring to specifically?
So they would have been just peachy with you setting up your own private server in your basement and running all that classified information through that instead of using that inconvenient old Navy system, right?
 

Knowing

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Would you now? I worked extensively with classified information in the service. What regulations are you referring to specifically?
Failure to protect at best

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._Deutch

I'm disappointed that wiki calls him a "chemist" rather than "Former Director of Central Intelligence" DCI is sort of a big deal.

Obama could pardon her just like Mr. Clinton pardoned Mr. Deutch who apparently plum forgot to turn in his govvy computer when he left.
 

ivwshane

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Failure to protect at best

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._Deutch

I'm disappointed that wiki calls him a "chemist" rather than "Former Director of Central Intelligence" DCI is sort of a big deal.

Obama could pardon her just like Mr. Clinton pardoned Mr. Deutch who apparently plum forgot to turn in his govvy computer when he left.

Perhaps I missed it but what charges did he receive?

Now what charges should Clinton receive when comparing the two?
 

Knowing

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Perhaps I missed it but what charges did he receive?

Now what charges should Clinton receive when comparing the two?
Janet Reno declined to prosecute. Rules are for little people and whistle blowers.

Did Hillary have classified information on her server? Was her server blessed for classified information? What are the charges that would be appropriate for the acts that are public knowledge? What are the ameliorating circumstances that she shouldn't be subject to prosecution?
 

fskimospy

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So they would have been just peachy with you setting up your own private server in your basement and running all that classified information through that instead of using that inconvenient old Navy system, right?

That's not really how it works. I strongly suspect neither of us were in charge of setting up email systems, especially unclas ones that happened to inadvertently carry some classified information.

It's a stupid comparison. I imagine the information he handled was like the information I handled. Clearly and unambiguously marked. It has nothing to do with this. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
 

ivwshane

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Janet Reno declined to prosecute. Rules are for little people and whistle blowers.

Did Hillary have classified information on her server? Was her server blessed for classified information? What are the charges that would be appropriate for the acts that are public knowledge? What are the ameliorating circumstances that she shouldn't be subject to prosecution?

You tell me, you are the one claiming rules are only for the little people.
 

fskimospy

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Failure to protect at best

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._Deutch

I'm disappointed that wiki calls him a "chemist" rather than "Former Director of Central Intelligence" DCI is sort of a big deal.

Obama could pardon her just like Mr. Clinton pardoned Mr. Deutch who apparently plum forgot to turn in his govvy computer when he left.

So to be clear you think you would have gone to jail because of a guy who two separate agencies declined to go after for security issues? Surely you see how dumb that is.
 

Knowing

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You tell me, you are the one claiming rules are only for the little people.
Charges aren't my job, my job was to among other things, not screw up at everything and lie about it, and in doing so not be sent to Leavenworth to rot.

I'm a little person and I recognise that rules are for me.
 

Knowing

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So to be clear you think you would have gone to jail because of a guy who two separate agencies declined to go after for security issues? Surely you see how dumb that is.
Then why pardon? Also, who nominated Janet Reno?
 

shady28

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This is straight from the DNC document at the bottom of this article.

One is noted with emphasis. Just a taste of things to come.

THE CLINTON FOUNDATION RECEIVED DONATIONS FROM INDIVIDUALS TIED TO SAUDI ARABIA WHILE CLINTON SERVED AS SECRETARY OF STATE

AN EMBATTLED BUSINESSMAN WITH “TIES TO BAHRAIN’S STATE-OWNED ALUMINUM COMPANY” GAVE BETWEEN $1 MILLION AND $5 MILLION TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION

A VENEZUELAN MEDIA MOGUL WHO WAS ACTIVE IN VENEZUELAN POLITICS DONATED TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION DURING CLINTON’S TENURE AS SECRETARY OF STATE

GERMAN INVESTOR WHO HAS LOBBIED CHANCELLOR MERKEL’S ADMINISTRATION GAVE BETWEEN $1 MILLION AND $5 MILLION TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION, SOME OF WHICH WAS DURING MRS. CLINTON’S TENURE AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT

THE CEO OF AN AMSTERDAM BASED ENERGY COMPANY DONATED AT LEAST $1 MILLION TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION AND LATER ANNOUNCED AT THE 2009 CGI MEETING A $5 BILLION PROJECT TO DEVELOP ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY POWER GENERATION IN INDIA AND CHINA

INDIAN POLITICIAN AMAR SINGH, WHO HAD DONATED AT LEAST $1 MILLION TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION, MET WITH HILLARY CLINTON IN SEPTEMBER 2008 TO DISCUSS AN INDIA-U.S. CIVIL NUCLEAR AGREEMENT

THE CLINTON FOUNDATION RECEIVED ADDITIONAL DONATIONS FROM INDIAN BUSINESS INTERESTS PRIOR TO HER BECOMING SECRETARY OF STATE

BILLIONAIRE STEEL EXECUTIVE AND MEMBER OF THE FOREIGN INVESTMENT COUNCIL IN KAZAKHSTAN LAKSHMI MITTAL GAVE $1 MILLION TO $5 MILLION TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION BEFORE CLINTON BECAME SECRETARY OF STATE

SOON AFTER SECRETARY CLINTON LEFT THE STATE DEPARTMENT, THE CLINTON FOUNDATION “RECEIVED A LARGE DONATION FROM A CONGLOMERATE RUN BY A MEMBER OF CHINA’S NATIONAL PEOPLE’S CONGRESS”

…AND THE CLINTON FOUNDATION DEFENDED ITS PARTNERSHIPS WITH BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC CORPORATE INTERESTS

POWERFUL AND CONTROVERSIAL CORPORATE INTERESTS BASED IN THE U.S. ALSO DONATED TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION

AMONG THE CLINTON FOUNDATION DONORS REVEALED IN 2009 WERE SEVERAL FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS WHO HAD GIVEN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS

WHEN HILLARY CLINTON BECAME SECRETARY OF STATE IN 2009, BILL CLINTON AGREED TO STOP ACCEPTING CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION FROM MOST FOREIGN COUNTRIES

IN THE PAST, SOME OBSERVERS HAD LINKED FOREIGN GOVERNMENT DONATIONS TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION AND SECRETARY CLINTON’S WORK AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT

THE CLINTON FOUNDATION CAME UNDER INTENSE SCRUTINY IN FEBRUARY 2015 WHEN IT WAS REVEALED THAT THE FOUNDATION HAD ACCEPTED DONATIONS FROM FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS AFTER SECRETARY CLINTON LEFT THE STATE DEPARTMENT

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL TIED FOREIGN GOVERNMENT DONORS TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION’S ENDOWMENT FUNDRAISING UNDER SECRETARY CLINTON

CLINTON FOUNDATION ANNOUNCED THAT SHOULD HILLARY CLINTON DECIDE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT, THE FOUNDATION WOULD FOLLOW APPROPRIATE PROCEDURES FOR ACCEPTING DONATIONS FROM FOREIGN DONATIONS, JUST LIKE IT HAD HAD UNDER SECRETARY CLINTON…

REPORTS THAT STATE DEPARTMENT LAWYERS DID NOT EXHAUSTIVELY VET BILL CLINTON’S PAID SPEECHES DURING SECRETARY CLINTON’S TENURE RAISED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ROLE CLINTON FOUNDATION DONATIONS MAY HAVE PLAYED IN ORGANIZING THOSE SPEECHES

SOME CONSERVATIVES USED THE FOREIGN DONATIONS CONTROVERSY TO IMPLY THAT THE CLINTON FOUNDATION IS NOT A CHARITY AND QUESTION THE FOUNDATION’S CHARITABLE WORK

THE CLINTON FOUNDATION HAS ACCEPTED DONATIONS FROM INDIVIDUALS, SOME OF WHOM HAD TIES TO FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS, DURING HER TENURE AS SECRETARY OF STATE

THE CLINTON FOUNDATION RECEIVED MONEY FROM A FOUNDATION FORMED BY FORMER UKRAINIAN PARLIAMENT MEMBER VICTOR PINCHUK

WALL STREET JOURNAL COLUMNIST MARY O’GRADY CITED A CONTRACT BETWEEN TWO CLINTON DONORS FOR HAITI AID AS EVIDENCE OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR THE CLINTONS
 

buckshot24

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Liberals here demand smoking gun proof for every opinion a conservative makes public while just assuming every one of their own is 100% factual then acting like you're an idiot for not sharing it.
 

buckshot24

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Bottom line, their candidate is under criminal investigation by the FBI and they want to act like this is no big deal.