• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

Clinton did it again....

Page 3 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
Originally posted by: DT4K
Anyone who is surprised by this or impressed with Clinton's "negotiating" abilities is an idiot. Nothing against Clinton, but he was just a representative for Obama, sent to be the face of the U.S. He didn't do any real negotiating or make any decisions. He just told NK what we would give them and they said ok.

From the beginning, it was obvious that NK grabbed these people to use as leverage to get some kind of concessions. There was never any doubt that they would be released.
Click to expand...

Does B. Clinton have a position in the administration?
 
Originally posted by: gwlam12
Originally posted by: DT4K
Anyone who is surprised by this or impressed with Clinton's "negotiating" abilities is an idiot. Nothing against Clinton, but he was just a representative for Obama, sent to be the face of the U.S. He didn't do any real negotiating or make any decisions. He just told NK what we would give them and they said ok.

From the beginning, it was obvious that NK grabbed these people to use as leverage to get some kind of concessions. There was never any doubt that they would be released.
Click to expand...

Does B. Clinton have a position in the administration?
Click to expand...

Nope, tht's why it was a brillaint move.

Get what we want, do it quickly and without a photo op of an administration official sitting with Il. The real bonus is watching the Republicans get all worked up over this. ROFL. Ahahaha.

 
Originally posted by: yankeesfan
So basically he went there and grovelled until to the Honorable Kim Jong-Il benevolently released the prisoners.

That's how the North Korean people are going to see it. We lose a little more power abroad.
Click to expand...

Quick! Look out the window! What changed when you lost some power? Oh yeah, nothing.
 
Originally posted by: nerp
Originally posted by: gwlam12
Originally posted by: DT4K
Anyone who is surprised by this or impressed with Clinton's "negotiating" abilities is an idiot. Nothing against Clinton, but he was just a representative for Obama, sent to be the face of the U.S. He didn't do any real negotiating or make any decisions. He just told NK what we would give them and they said ok.

From the beginning, it was obvious that NK grabbed these people to use as leverage to get some kind of concessions. There was never any doubt that they would be released.
Click to expand...

Does B. Clinton have a position in the administration?
Click to expand...

Nope, tht's why it was a brillaint move.

Get what we want, do it quickly and without a photo op of an administration official sitting with Il. The real bonus is watching the Republicans get all worked up over this. ROFL. Ahahaha.
Click to expand...

Imagine what would've happened if Bush went! Or even both Bushes... :Q
 
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: nerp
Originally posted by: gwlam12
Originally posted by: DT4K
Anyone who is surprised by this or impressed with Clinton's "negotiating" abilities is an idiot. Nothing against Clinton, but he was just a representative for Obama, sent to be the face of the U.S. He didn't do any real negotiating or make any decisions. He just told NK what we would give them and they said ok.

From the beginning, it was obvious that NK grabbed these people to use as leverage to get some kind of concessions. There was never any doubt that they would be released.
Click to expand...

Does B. Clinton have a position in the administration?
Click to expand...

Nope, tht's why it was a brillaint move.

Get what we want, do it quickly and without a photo op of an administration official sitting with Il. The real bonus is watching the Republicans get all worked up over this. ROFL. Ahahaha.
Click to expand...

Imagine what would've happened if Bush went! Or even both Bushes... :Q
Click to expand...

Bush Sr would have played golf. The reporters would have been waterboarded while W drank a beer with Great Leader and watched the festivities.
 
Originally posted by: yankeesfan
So basically he went there and grovelled until to the Honorable Kim Jong-Il benevolently released the prisoners.

That's how the North Korean people are going to see it. We lose a little more power abroad.
Click to expand...

Oh, that precious power we have with the NK people😕
We are so screwed now!!!!!

Any country that matters knows this was nothing more than a photo op for lil Kim.
 
very cool. i would have love to be a fly on the wall of obama's office.

wonder if clinton was part of obama's office for it? either way he is an amazing man.
 
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
I wonder at what cost
Click to expand...

Our respect as a nation.
Click to expand...

How does that work exactly? 😕
Click to expand...

Hmm, 2 Americans break another country's laws. We go there and say "Sorry can we have our people back. We don't think they should be held accountable for their actions."
Click to expand...

Warning: this is your brain on Rush Limbaugh.
 
Somehow, with his past history, I doubt the State Department is gonna let Big Bill ride home with those two girls unchaperoned...

(even though, IMO, he's entitled to whatever he can get since he got them out of the NK prison...) 😀
 
I'm not saying we should have left them over there forever, but I really have no sympathy for anyone that tries to break into NK, gets caught, and then has to abide by that country's rules.

I mean, shit, who the hell would want to go to NK in the first place? That's like saying "Hey, I want AIDS!"
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Somehow, with his past history, I doubt the State Department is gonna let Big Bill ride home with those two girls unchaperoned...

(even though, IMO, he's entitled to whatever he can get since he got them out of the NK prison...) 😀
Click to expand...

They're not attractive...
 
Originally posted by: NFS4
I mean, shit, who the hell would want to go to NK in the first place? That's like saying "Hey, I want AIDS!"
Click to expand...
Journalists, that's who. It's forbidden fruit (which makes it all the more prestigious for a journalist), and thus they want it. Nothing makes your career like "the big scoop" does.
 
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Somehow, with his past history, I doubt the State Department is gonna let Big Bill ride home with those two girls unchaperoned...

(even though, IMO, he's entitled to whatever he can get since he got them out of the NK prison...) 😀
Click to expand...

They're not attractive...
Click to expand...

That's not stopped him before!
 
Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
I wonder at what cost
Click to expand...

Our respect as a nation.
Click to expand...

The article doesn't go into enough detail to be able to come to that conclusion. Note the language from NK:

"Clinton expressed words of sincere apology to Kim Jong Il for the hostile acts committed by the two American journalists against the DPRK after illegally intruding into it," the news agency reported. "Clinton courteously conveyed to Kim Jong Il an earnest request of the U.S. government to leniently pardon them and send them back home from a humanitarian point of view.

"The meetings had candid and in-depth discussions on the pending issues between the DPRK and the U.S. in a sincere atmosphere and reached a consensus of views on seeking a negotiated settlement of them."

The report said Clinton then conveyed a message from U.S. President Obama "expressing profound thanks for this and reflecting views on ways of improving the relations between the two countries."

It added, "The measure taken to release the American journalists is a manifestation of the DPRK's humanitarian and peace-loving policy.

"The DPRK visit of Clinton and his party will contribute to deepening the understanding between the DPRK and the U.S. and building the bilateral confidence."
Click to expand...

We don't know at this point what NK got in exchange for the two, but whatever it was they're clearly happy about it.
Click to expand...

a few basketballs signed by Michael Jordan and some shitty bootlegged Baliwood-style film directed by Jon Woo that follows a strong moral socialism subtext.
 
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Somehow, with his past history, I doubt the State Department is gonna let Big Bill ride home with those two girls unchaperoned...

(even though, IMO, he's entitled to whatever he can get since he got them out of the NK prison...) 😀
Click to expand...

They're not attractive...
Click to expand...

did you ever see lewinsky? or his wife? if so you know looks don't matter to him.

Originally posted by: NFS4
I'm not saying we should have left them over there forever, but I really have no sympathy for anyone that tries to break into NK, gets caught, and then has to abide by that country's rules.

I mean, shit, who the hell would want to go to NK in the first place? That's like saying "Hey, I want AIDS!"
Click to expand...

i agree. but good for bill for getting them out.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Back
Top