Climate Research Unit hacked, damning evidence of data manipulation

[GoPackGo]

lol Fauxnews link!

/left

Actually I was reading that too. Appears that AGW believers are now forced into admitting that the earth has natural and cyclical climate and that this is playing a big role in temperature and that it's going to get colder over the next few decades.

Their point is that while the temperature is falling, it would still have been colder if not for our CO2 contribution. So if it's 30 degrees below average, they'd say the normal without us would have been ~40 degrees below average.

Then they say a reckoning is coming during the next warming cycle.

Gotta love the "you just wait 30 years" BS they are trying to pull...if we do head for a massive cooling trend there will be one thing for certain...starvation. But at least that corn that could have been used to feed people will be made into ethanol for those still alive.

 

[dainthomas]

Gotta love the "you just wait 30 years" BS they are trying to pull...if we do head for a massive cooling trend there will be one thing for certain...starvation. But at least that corn that could have been used to feed people will be made into ethanol for those still alive.

Assuming climate doesn't remain static in the long term, having it get warmer is preferable to it getting colder. Cute, fuzzy polar bears might like it colder, but that's about it.

 

[monovillage]

Here's the story about how Climategate came out. The actual source of the hack/leak is not released. This is Part I, parts II and III are linked in the article.

http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielc...he-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement-part-i/

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Here's a reader response to a recent anti-FOI editorial in Nature. It's mind boggling that a prestigious science publication like Nature just doesn't get it. Go figure.

Climate e-mails: lack of data sharing is a real concern
Your Editorial (Nature 462, 545; 2009) castigates “denialists” for making “endless, time-consuming demands for information under the US and UK Freedom of Information Acts”. But you do not mention the reason — that the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia has systematically tried to avoid revealing data and code.
Science relies upon open analysis of data and methods, and the UK Natural Environment Research Council (NERC) has a clear data-sharing policy that expects scientists “to cooperate in validating and publishing [data] in their entirety”. The university’s leaked e-mails imply a concerted effort to avoid data sharing, which both violates the best practice defined in NERC policy and prevents verification of the results obtained by the unit. Asking for scientific data and code should not lead to anyone being branded as part of the “climate-change denialist fringe”.
David R. Bell
Molecular Toxicology,
School of Biology,
University of Nottingham, Nottingham

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2...-documents-related-global-warming-controversy

Judicial Watch Uncovers NASA Documents Related to Global Warming Controversy

NASA Scientists Go on Attack After Climate Data Error Exposed

Washington, DC -- January 14, 2010 Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has obtained internal documents from NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) related to a controversy that erupted in 2007 when Canadian blogger Stephen McIntyre exposed an error in NASA's handling of raw temperature data from 2000-2006 that exaggerated the reported rise in temperature readings in the United States. According to multiple press reports, when NASA corrected the error, the new data apparently caused a reshuffling of NASA's rankings for the hottest years on record in the United States, with 1934 replacing 1998 at the top of the list.

These new documents, obtained by Judicial Watch through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), include internal GISS email correspondence as NASA scientists attempted to deal with the media firestorm resulting from the controversy. In one exchange GISS head James Hansen tells a reporter from Bloomberg that NASA had not previously published rankings with 1998 atop the list as the hottest year on record in the 20th century.

Email from Demien McLean, Bloomberg to Jim Hansen, August 14, 2007: "The U.S. figures showed 1998 as the warmest year. Nevertheless, NASA has indeed newly ranked 1934 as the warmest year..."

Email Response from James Hansen to Damien McLean, August 14, 2007: "...We have not changed ranking of warmest year in the U.S. As you will see in our 2001 paper we found 1934 slightly warmer, by an insignificant hair over 1998. We still find that result. The flaw affected temperatures only after 2000, not 1998 and 1934."

Email from NASA Scientist Makiko Sato to James Hansen, August 14, 2007: "I am sure I had 1998 warmer at least once on my own temperature web page..." (Email includes temperature chart dated January 1, 2007.)
(This issue also crops up in email communications with New York Times reporter Andrew Revkin a little over a week later.)

According to the NASA email, NASA's incorrect temperature readings resulted from a "flaw" in a computer program used to update annual temperature data.

Hansen, clearly frustrated by the attention paid to the NASA error, labeled McIntyre a "pest" and suggests those who disagree with his global warming theories "should be ready to crawl under a rock by now." Hansen also suggests that those calling attention to the climate data error did not have a "light on upstairs."

"This email traffic ought to be embarrassing for NASA. Given the recent Climategate scandal, NASA has an obligation to be completely transparent with its handling of temperature data. Instead of insulting those who point out their mistakes, NASA scientists should engage the public in an open, professional and honest manner," stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

 

[Avvocato Effetti]

I've always known that this is a device created by Liberals/Democrats/Heathens to transfer wealth form the Wise to the Foolish.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I've always known that this is a device created by Liberals/Democrats/Heathens to transfer wealth form the Wise to the Foolish.

Who are you? I predict a permaban shortly.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

I've always known that this is a device created by Liberals/Democrats/Heathens to transfer wealth form the Wise to the Foolish.

Who are you? I predict a permaban shortly.

Oh goody - the parody poster is back from his vacation...

 

[PJABBER]

Lest you think the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act (the Stimulus Bill) has been entirely wasted on government pork and paying off favored constituencies, it now looks like at least half a million dollars have been thrown to Mr. Hockey Stick himself.

Hide the Job Decline: $500k in Stimulus Funds to ClimateGate Professor]

by Mike Flynn
The American Reinvestment and Recovery Act (the Stimulus Bill) has been such an epic failure, that even the mainstream media has started to notice. The White House has tacitly acknowledged this and recently announced that it would no longer ‘count’ jobs ‘created or saved’ by the Stimulus. The basic problem is that the bulk of the spending went to programs or projects that have nothing to do with economic growth.

The latest example of this is a $500,000 grant to Michael Mann, Professor at Penn State University and unintended co-star of the ClimateGate e-mail scandal. The leaked e-mails revealed collaboration among scientists to stifle dissenting views on the extent of man-made global warming.
Mann is also the creator of the “Hockey Stick” graph, which purported to show a sharp increase in recent temperatures. That work has been thoroughly discredited by researcher Stephen McIntyre. Yet, in June 2009, the National Science Foundation awarded Mann a three-year $500,000 to further study the climate’s response to human activity. According to the grant award:

The broader impacts involve supporting postdoctoral scholars and graduate students and contributing to the understanding of abrupt climate change.
​

So, the research is supposed to give us a better ‘understanding of abrupt climate change.’ Mind you, the research isn’t to determine whether there is abrupt climate change occurring. Given that Mann is known for using “tricks” to finesse his data, the National Science Foundation will not be pleased with the results.

Actually, this particular grant is special, even by the low-bar set by other spending. Most of the Stimulus funds are simply wasted with no real impact on the overall economy. However, Mann’s “research” will presumably be used to further justify cap-and-trade legislation or other draconian regulatory actions. Either of these will have a very negative impact on the economy, retarding growth for years to come.

We may be paying for this $500,000 for a very long time.

 

[Avvocato Effetti]

Who are you? I predict a permaban shortly.

Really. Have you started some sort of behind the scenes campaign?

Oh goody - the parody poster is back from his vacation...

A personal attack? Hmmmm.......

 

[CADsortaGUY]

A personal attack? Hmmmm.......

lol, try seeing how far that one will get you...

 

[Capt Caveman]

Global warming opens up Arctic for undersea cable

 

[AMDScooter]

Global warming opens up Arctic for undersea cable

Story hits all the MMGW faithful talking points offering a big ole goose egg on substance to support the title's premise. Could there possibly be a reason the story fails to point out that we've only been able to track said ice with satellites for about 30 years? Or that recorded observations made by early arctic explorers saw a similar lack of ice in said passage way before the industrial revolution? Naw... keep moving..

The claims about the Northwest Passage the BBC and other outlets were forced to backtrack on..

The surprising real story about this year’s Northeast passage transit: The media botched it

The polar bears declared "endangered" despite the local's actual observed data that shows the populations booming and getting fat. But don't try to harsh the faithful's mellow with facts and actual data, you'll be shown the door..


Polar bear expert barred by global warmists
Mitchell Taylor, who has studied the animals for 30 years, was told his views 'are extremely unhelpful’ , reveals Christopher Booker.


But hey.. what do I know. It must be MMGW.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Story hits all the MMGW faithful talking points offering a big ole goose egg on substance to support the title's premise. Could there possibly be a reason the story fails to point out that we've only been able to track said ice with satellites for about 30 years? Or that recorded observations made by early arctic explorers saw a similar lack of ice in said passage way before the industrial revolution? Naw... keep moving..

The claims about the Northwest Passage the BBC and other outlets were forced to backtrack on..

The surprising real story about this year’s Northeast passage transit: The media botched it

The polar bears declared "endangered" despite the local's actual observed data that shows the populations booming and getting fat. But don't try to harsh the faithful's mellow with facts and actual data, you'll be shown the door..


Polar bear expert barred by global warmists
Mitchell Taylor, who has studied the animals for 30 years, was told his views 'are extremely unhelpful’ , reveals Christopher Booker.


But hey.. what do I know. It must be MMGW.

The story speaks for itself. All you've provided is a blog to counter it.

And for your link on polar bears, interesting that the same source would publish this article several months later:

Polar bears 'face extinction in less than 70 years because of global warming'

 

[Nemesis 1]

Just a few weeks ago my son and I were talking and he said Climate change is BS . This was durring the Xmas cold snap . I lol he said whats so funny . I told him in less than a month it will be raining here in MN. and it has and is . He is beside himself now . Youth of today lack wisdom.

 

[monovillage]

To stay on topic here's a 129 page pdf analysis of the CRU e-mails that's very well done.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/21/climategate-analysis/

"it is this betrayal of the principles of science—in what is arguably the most important public application of science in our lifetime—that most distresses scientists."

 

[silverpig]

Not exactly an unbiased source, but he seems to have some reputable experts. Some pretty interesting points here, especially re: Hawaii, Bolivia, and the Arctic.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/climategate_cru_was_but_the_ti.html

 

[PJABBER]

To stay on topic here's a 129 page pdf analysis of the CRU e-mails that's very well done.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/21/climategate-analysis/

"it is this betrayal of the principles of science—in what is arguably the most important public application of science in our lifetime—that most distresses scientists."

Thanks for that reference! I am reading through it now.

Here is the link to the study itself -

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/reprint/climategate_analysis.pdf

 

[Jaskalas]

The story speaks for itself. All you've provided is a blog to counter it.

And for your link on polar bears, interesting that the same source would publish this article several months later:

Polar bears 'face extinction in less than 70 years because of global warming'

Yay, more speculation. Despite booming numbers. Seems to be a disconnect from reality.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

The story speaks for itself. All you've provided is a blog to counter it.

And for your link on polar bears, interesting that the same source would publish this article several months later:

Polar bears 'face extinction in less than 70 years because of global warming'

 

[monovillage]

UK Parliament to investigate Climategate and CRU data issues.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/22/uk-parliament-to-investigate-climategate-and-cru-data-issues/

 

[StageLeft]

Apparently Phil Jones thought of killing himself: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7017922.ece

Sad, really. Baby did a bad bad thing, but he's more than that, most people are more than what we know them by. Really a silly thing to kill yourself over.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

New errors in IPCC climate change report

Claims based on information in press releases and newsletters.
New examples of statements based on student dissertations, two of which were unpublished.
More claims which were based on reports produced by environmental pressure groups.
They are the latest in a series of damaging revelations about the IPCC’s most recent report, published in 2007.
Last month, the panel was forced to issue a humiliating retraction after it emerged statements about the melting of Himalayan glaciers were inaccurate.
Last weekend, this paper revealed that the panel had based claims about disappearing mountain ice on anecdotal evidence in a student’s dissertation and an article in a mountaineering magazine.
And on Friday, it emerged that the IPCC’s panel had wrongly reported that more than half of the Netherlands was below sea level because it had failed to check information supplied by a Dutch government agency.

I wonder how long the followers will stay on board the sinking ship?

 

[silverpig]

New errors in IPCC climate change report



I wonder how long the followers will stay on board the sinking ship?

I'm still amazed that this thing won a Nobel...

 

[nobodyknows]

Just a few weeks ago my son and I were talking and he said Climate change is BS . This was durring the Xmas cold snap . I lol he said whats so funny . I told him in less than a month it will be raining here in MN. and it has and is . He is beside himself now . Youth of today lack wisdom.

There are always abberations and they don't prove anything one way or the other but... IMO over the course of my life the wild swing of both the intensity and frequency of these abberations has increased.