Climate Contrarian Predictions - How have they done?

[Vic]

Nothing but work to get a little strip of crab. Give me blue or Dungeness any day. For buffet huggers.

Yep, no true PacNW'er would eat snow crab when there's Dungeness to be had. That said, those aren't to be had either. Prices are through the roof and even the local marinas on the OR coast will tell you not to bother getting a shellfish license as you won't catch anything you can keep.

 

[hal2kilo]

Yep, no true PacNW'er would eat snow crab when there's Dungeness to be had. That said, those aren't to be had either. Prices are through the roof and even the local marinas on the OR coast will tell you not to bother getting a shellfish license as you won't catch anything you can keep.

Haven't bought any in such a long time I have no idea. Heck, I still haven't bought any steak other than chuck for about a year now.

 

[raildogg]

Most CC Denial these days seems to simply be mocking the idea that a Post-Petroleum World is even possible.

Go beyond this limited liberal thinking. Attacking petroleum won't heal this planet. We need to change our way of living, our attitudes towards nature and animals and materialism. One way would be spiritualism but since liberals have rejected that, you need to find another way.

 

[sandorski]

Go beyond this limited liberal thinking. Attacking petroleum won't heal this planet. We need to change our way of living, our attitudes towards nature and animals and materialism. One way would be spiritualism but since liberals have rejected that, you need to find another way.

Environmentalism

 

[woolfe9998]

What is this garbage from so-called "liberal biased" CNN?

Energy crisis will set off social unrest, private-equity billionaire warns

Blackstone CEO Stephen Schwarzman warned Tuesday that high energy prices will likely set off social unrest around the world.

www.cnn.com

The article is about a hedge fund billionaire who says that high gas prices will cause "social unrest." He blames it entirely on "clean energy policy" which is odd, since Biden hasn't been able to do much other than by EO. Also odd, because in Europe the gas prices have increased even more and they've had such policies for many years now. Also odd, because several other articles attribute the high gas prices to various factors, including Russian market manipulation.

He also says that the inflation we're experiencing is not short term and will persist, which is different from what virtually every economist is saying. There are no contrary opinions in the article.

Why all the odd opinions with no contrary view?

Oh, did I mention that Schartzman is a republican and a buddy of Trump?

CNN didn't.

 

[hal2kilo]

What is this garbage from so-called "liberal biased" CNN?

Energy crisis will set off social unrest, private-equity billionaire warns

Blackstone CEO Stephen Schwarzman warned Tuesday that high energy prices will likely set off social unrest around the world.

www.cnn.com

The article is about a hedge fund billionaire who says that high gas prices will cause "social unrest." He blames it entirely on "clean energy policy" which is odd, since Biden hasn't been able to do much other than by EO. Also odd, because in Europe the gas prices have increased even more and they've had such policies for many years now. Also odd, because several other articles attribute the high gas prices to various factors, including Russian market manipulation.

He also says that the inflation we're experiencing is not short term and will persist, which is different from what virtually every economist is saying. There are no contrary opinions in the article.

Why all the odd opinions with no contrary view?

Oh, did I mention that Schartzman is a republican and a buddy of Trump?

CNN didn't.

I find CNN has that falling back to status quo instinct down quite well.

 

[woolfe9998]

I find CNN has that falling back to status quo instinct down quite well.

Maybe because it's "CNN Business." Must be a different staff. Because it's very strange to quote a billionaire CEO whose fund is undoubtedly invested in fossil fuels, and is a conservative republican, without rebuttal. It's grossly negligent journalism.

 

[Stokely]

I know plenty of "spiritual" people and they seem to live in the same houses, receive the same packages, drive the same cars as everyone else. I'm sure there are a few people out there in yurts living off the grid but what % is that of the population?


The main problem is that people have rejected science and facts and substituted their own. That includes plenty of spiritual people, I'd even suggest they make up more than their share. My relatives all think the problems of society are because we "reject Jesus." Well, I beg to differ, for one thing the world Jesus lived in wasn't exactly a happy one for most people (and even the well-off ones, well aren't they supposed to have a hard time getting into heaven?) They even reject the thought that science can change with the facts (you are being wishy washy or deceitful if it happens.) Just look how many people have embraced something as loony as q-Anon, which started on a damn internet forum for shit's sake.

Unless most people--enough to influence who gets elected--will accept what science is increasingly saying about climate change, nothing much will get done. Those people will then have to accept the extreme measures that this new breed of politicians install, and accept them over many years because any fix is a very long haul. Good luck. This is the same public where a huge swathe of people compare wearing a paper mask during a pandemic to a being a jew under the Nazis... Unless, of course, some miracle tech appears that not only works but can make rich politicians and corporations a lot of money-- I'd say start hoping for that because that's about the only hope. We are far, far past the point of everyone planting a tree and try your best to remember to bring your reusable bag to the grocery store (if that ever was going to help anyway).

 

[kage69]

Yep, no true PacNW'er would eat snow crab when there's Dungeness to be had. That said, those aren't to be had either. Prices are through the roof and even the local marinas on the OR coast will tell you not to bother getting a shellfish license as you won't catch anything you can keep.

I just realized I don't think I've ever eaten Dungeness crab before. I hear it's up there with top end blue swimmers, maybe the best? I need to try it, though maybe I'll be waiting awhile from the sound of things. Always preferred crab to lobster, back when I was a Florida boy who spent his free time in the water. Blue crab is one of those climate change winners apparently, which makes sense as they're on the tropical side. Dungeness is a cold water variety though right? Shit. I gotta get on it.

Edit: Not temp, pH. "Using a retrospective prediction from a regression models, we estimate an 8.3% increase in external carapace dissolution over the last two decades and identified a set of affected OA-related sublethal pathways to inform future risk assessment studies of Dungeness crabs."