Climate Change Is Harming U.S. Economy report says

[Darwin333]

I didn't say the climate was not changing!

I said it is a natural event and all of you puny little humans did not cause it nor can you change it. If you think you can you are deluded.

We can detonate a bunch of nukes and change the climate by throwing a bunch of shit into the atmosphere. I thought that was pretty common knowledge and would definitely be considered "humans causing change to the climate".

Yes.

What are your obviously many PHDs in to make such a claim?

 

[boomerang]

I'll be honest...I don't see much there...

I see Who Moved My Cheese?

The earth is in a constant state of change. Some people find that scary, some people find it interesting, some people don't much care, some people have decided they could become rich from it and some people understand that change is the one constant in the blink of an eye we will spend on the planet.

Don't let the fraidy cats dictate the narrative. Their fear feeds a need in them and they have shown us that they refuse to hear anything that might counteract their fear. Anybody that is still sticking to the 97% of scientists horseshit can be summarily dismissed. It, along with so many other "facts" have been proven false but they're not interested in hearing any of that.

Couple this attitude of fear with the support by so many that embrace so fully the progressive ideology of control of the actions and even the thoughts of others and we can see global warming climate change is the holy grail. The power to control the climate! And all it takes is raising your cost of living exponentially! Double good. Control the climate while controlling the masses. It's intoxicating to them.

 

[manimal]

I see Who Moved My Cheese?

The earth is in a constant state of change. Some people find that scary, some people find it interesting, some people don't much care, some people have decided they could become rich from it and some people understand that change is the one constant in the blink of an eye we will spend on the planet.

Don't let the fraidy cats dictate the narrative. Their fear feeds a need in them and they have shown us that they refuse to hear anything that might counteract their fear. Anybody that is still sticking to the 97% of scientists horseshit can be summarily dismissed. It, along with so many other "facts" have been proven false but they're not interested in hearing any of that.

Couple this attitude of fear with the support by so many that embrace so fully the progressive ideology of control of the actions and even the thoughts of others and we can see global warming climate change is the holy grail. The power to control the climate! And all it takes is raising your cost of living exponentially! Double good. Control the climate while controlling the masses. It's intoxicating to them.

It's easy for you to say that when you don't live in Bangladesh which will most likely be underwater in our lifetimes.


What's intoxicating is willful ignorance on your part.

 

[boomerang]

It's easy for you to say that when you don't live in Bangladesh which will most likely be underwater in our lifetimes.


What's intoxicating is willful ignorance on your part.

Tell me how to correct what you see as a problem that will occur solely within our lifetimes. It's never happened before, right? Tell me how we will control the climate of our planet.

What do we need to do?
How much will it cost?
How long will it take?
How will we measure the results?
What indicators will tell us that we have succeeded?

If controlling the climate of the planet is attainable those questions should be easy to answer.

 

[Paul98]

Tell me how to correct what you see as a problem that will occur solely within our lifetimes. It's never happened before, right? Tell me how we will control the climate of our planet.

What do we need to do?
How much will it cost?
How long will it take?
How will we measure the results?
What indicators will tell us that we have succeeded?

If controlling the climate of the planet is attainable those questions should be easy to answer.

Do you believe man is currently a major factor of the changing climate?

 

[Jaskalas]

Do you believe man is currently a major factor of the changing climate?

In the historical / present temperature record? No.

 

[K1052]

A cost, for what purpose?

I'm envisioning this transition to natural gas occurring over many decades, while the United States population increases. The net change won't look anything like a 40% reduction from where we stand today. CO2 would still rise, all the worst impacts of Climate Change would still occur.

Now I'll concede I don't object to utilizing natural gas. But these measures are often combined with unnatural forcing and deadlines that, if pushed, could seriously harm the US electrical grid among other things. We must tread carefully.

Yet, as much as I'll support a transition from coal I still don't see it being any sort of logical conclusion to CO2. Natural gas still has CO2 emissions, half that of coal. These half measures just are not going to cut it if the IPCC is entirely correct.

US electricity demand has basically flattened out in the last 7 years. US carbon emissions have been on a downward trend since 2005 IIRC. Gains in efficiency and shifts in the generation mix have more than offset population growth.

Coal's share of our generation has dropped from about 50% ten years ago to 36% now, largely being supplanted by NG and renewables. It is entirely possible that it could nearly vanish from the US generation mix within another 10 years with the new EPA rules on the horizon.

 

[manimal]

In the historical / present temperature record? No.

You must not like to read much

 

[fskimospy]

You have to remember that people like boomerang are culture warriors. They don't care about the overwhelming science behind climate change, their tribe told them that they are supposed to be against action on it. Therefore they are.

There is no greater motivation and they can't be reasoned with.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I knew there was a reason the the economy sucks so much...it's climate change!

 

[michal1980]

You have to remember that people like boomerang are culture warriors. They don't care about the overwhelming science behind climate change, their tribe told them that they are supposed to be against action on it. Therefore they are.

There is no greater motivation and they can't be reasoned with.

so now you degrade to moonbeam 2.0?

What's with this liberal mental defect that they turn those that disagree with them into mindless drones? Is it because they cannot stand being challenged for their stupidity? Or is it their superiority complex?

 

[Mai72]

Twin tornadoes touched down in NE Nebraska yesterday.

You can close this thread. Good day!

 

[michal1980]

Twin tornadoes touched down in NE Nebraska yesterday.

You can close this thread. Good day!

must be global warming

 

[Mai72]

must be global warming

Well what else could it be?

:'(

 

[Mai72]

Fracking might be causing earthquakes in Nebraska. The oil industry is denying the research.

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/03/does-fracking-cause-earthquakes-wastewater-dewatering

 

[Chiropteran]

With a little global warming, we would actually have more habitable land and more farmable area. It's not even a bad thing.

 

[michal1980]

Well what else could it be?

:'(

 

[fskimospy]

With a little global warming, we would actually have more habitable land and more farmable area. It's not even a bad thing.

It is most certainly a bad thing.

We might have more farmable area... and a number of major cities flooded. And even with farming, what areas are appropriate for farming will change, disrupting a lot of our infrastructure.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Well what else could it be?

:'(

Considering it also happened 49 years ago climate change is not the cause.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2014/06/twin_tornadoes_2014_that_hit_n.html

A double tornado hit the Indiana town of Elkhart in the infamous 1965 Palm Sunday tornado outbreak.

 

[Chiropteran]

It is most certainly a bad thing.

We might have more farmable area... and a number of major cities flooded. And even with farming, what areas are appropriate for farming will change, disrupting a lot of our infrastructure.

We have a number of major cities shut down by blizzards, sometimes for weeks at a time. With the proper level of warming, those blizzards can be avoided.

A little bit of extra water isn't going to hurt them any worse.

 

[Jaskalas]

We have a number of major cities shut down by blizzards, sometimes for weeks at a time. With the proper level of warming, those blizzards can be avoided.

A little bit of extra water isn't going to hurt them any worse.

That "little bit of extra water" he's talking about is most likely Sea Level rise.

 

[michal1980]

It is most certainly a bad thing.

We might have more farmable area... and a number of major cities flooded. And even with farming, what areas are appropriate for farming will change, disrupting a lot of our infrastructure.

things change.

USA attempting to mildly cut CO2 emissions while the rest of the world will continue to grow isnt going to 'save' the planet.

But we all know the left is all about feel good measures. They dont care about outcomes.