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JC

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Here's a classic from a late-70s Ford commercial....(paraphrased, but it sums it up)

"Hey, this isn't my Mercedes! It's a Ford Granada!"

yeah, rrrright.....

JC
 

Ultima

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Originally posted by: Munchies
How is that a misconseption? Assuming your saying frontwheel drive. fwd is waaaaay better than rwd in the snow and alot of otherapplications..Theres a website with a fwd mid 80's dodge caravan with a turbo 4 running like 11's. The van also pulls 4wd outta the snow.

Cars are FWD for the most part because they were cheaper for the manufacturers to make and because they had more predictable (but not better) handling. With RWD you have more options but you need to be a better driver as well. I wouldn't really say one is better than the other unless you have a specific application in mind. For a family sedan FWD is fine. Anything that aspires to be sporty should be RWD or AWD though IMO.
 

CantedValve

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Originally posted by: DonaldC
"Celica Supra"


Got news for you. In 1978 that was what Toyota called the car. I think it was the first year Supra was imported to the USA. I doubt I could find the dealers brochure now but I do remember looking at the car before I bought a new 1979 Celica ST.

EDIT for rotten spelling....
You OBVIOUSLY missed the part about this being about CLASSIC CARS.
 

CantedValve

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Originally posted by: Stallion
A Oldsmobile 442 does not mean that's the size of the engine.
That AMC never made a fast car. 390 AMX any one?
A Mustang GT350 does not have a 351ci engine, or should I say did not come with.
Ummm... Check that... 1969 and 1970 GT350's and 351W engines.
 

JC

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Originally posted by: CantedValve
You OBVIOUSLY missed the part about this being about CLASSIC CARS.

Well in all fairness, I intended it to be about classic "car goofs", not so much "classic car" goofs. ;)

JC
 

CantedValve

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Originally posted by: JC
Originally posted by: CantedValve
You OBVIOUSLY missed the part about this being about CLASSIC CARS.

Well in all fairness, I intended it to be about classic "car goofs", not so much "classic car" goofs. ;)

JC

Hmmm... a different spin on things... although judging from your list in the original post, it looks like I had a justified reason for interpreting it the way I did
 

Cyberian

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Originally posted by: CantedValve
Originally posted by: eshtog
"American cars are better than japanese"

"Fords have good resale value"
Awww... that's cute... your delusional!
The originator asked people to post "misconceptions" about cars.
I believe that's what eshtog did.

 

Lucky

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Originally posted by: CantedValve
Originally posted by: Lucky
Body Kits help acceleration.


no but they certainly might decrease drag/increase top speed.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You just keep telling yourself that!!



are you retarded? yes, a body kit, designed properly, could very well increase top speed by decreasing drag. I'm not saying it WOULD happen for certain in every isntance but its very realistic.
 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: CantedValve
Originally posted by: Lucky
Body Kits help acceleration.


no but they certainly might decrease drag/increase top speed.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You just keep telling yourself that!!



are you retarded? yes, a body kit, designed properly, could very well increase top speed by decreasing drag. I'm not saying it WOULD happen for certain in every isntance but its very realistic.
You need to study "physics in the real world" a little more. A body kit on a stock car (for instance) will have no effect upon top end. Why? Unless the car is lightened or modded for more power, top end will stay the same. A small decrease in CEOD won't make the slightest difference. In fact, it may lower the top end due to the added weight of the kit. That is what's realistic. The real world is not some static science lab where theoretical gains may be measured. Of course if the car is making 500hp and is built like my 1987 Crown Vic then yes it may well add top end due to the brick like style it has. However, body kits are targeted at imports like Civics and Accords and other pieces of crap, which have decent aerodynamic styling from the start.

 

Lucky

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who says we were talking about 100hp civics?
rolleye.gif
But thank you for acknowledging that body kits could certainly decrease drag and increase the top speed. :)
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: CantedValve
Originally posted by: Lucky
Body Kits help acceleration.


no but they certainly might decrease drag/increase top speed.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You just keep telling yourself that!!

Actually if a body is created for the sole purpose of helping aerodynamics and to stabalize a car, then you will very easily see a small top speed increase and a definite decrease in drag. I am not talking about a honda civic with a primered body kit here. Most of Steve Saleen's cars that have been produced used his functional body equipment to improve high speed road stability and to decrease drag. Also, Steve's hoods and other pieces replace the stock bumper and reduce weight.

 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Millenium
Originally posted by: CantedValve
Originally posted by: Lucky
Body Kits help acceleration.


no but they certainly might decrease drag/increase top speed.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You just keep telling yourself that!!

Actually if a body is created for the sole purpose of helping aerodynamics and to stabalize a car, then you will very easily see a small top speed increase and a definite decrease in drag. I am not talking about a honda civic with a primered body kit here. Most of Steve Saleen's cars that have been produced used his functional body equipment to improve high speed road stability and to decrease drag. Also, Steve's hoods and other pieces replace the stock bumper and reduce weight.
I'd love to see real numbers in fact on how body kits do help that because it would be nice to know but the reason F1 cars get such kickass handling is in great part to their "body kits", so I'm sure the correct one could help.
 

bmacd

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it bothers me when people say "Fords" without possesion, as well as Krogers (grocery store), Kmarts (convenience store) and any other business that clearly doesn't spell their name with an "S" on the end.

-=bmacd=-
 

Citation

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Originally posted by: Lucky
Body Kits help acceleration.


no but they certainly might decrease drag/increase top speed.

Ohh give me a break!!!! Unless there is some serious cosmetic changes going on I doubt there are many cars out on the road that are street legal that will benefit from a body kit, the only thing that they decrease is your wallet and quite possibly manhood, find me one muscle car out there that has a "body kit" on it, only the ricers use that. And what?s with those spoilers all the ricers are sticking on their trunks??? Do they think that their Honda is going to be going fast enough that they are going to need the extra down force to keep traction??? So lets look at this logically, they are putting a mess of weight on the back of a front wheel drive car. Explain that to me.


-Cit
Don?t get me wrong; Honda makes great cars, great everyday driver NON RACE cars. Amazing how many people don't understand that.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Citation
Originally posted by: Lucky
Body Kits help acceleration.


no but they certainly might decrease drag/increase top speed.

Ohh give me a break!!!! Unless there is some serious cosmetic changes going on I doubt there are many cars out on the road that are street legal that will benefit from a body kit, the only thing that they decrease is your wallet and quite possibly manhood, find me one muscle car out there that has a "body kit" on it, only the ricers use that. And what?s with those spoilers all the ricers are sticking on their trunks??? Do they think that their Honda is going to be going fast enough that they are going to need the extra down force to keep traction??? So lets look at this logically, they are putting a mess of weight on the back of a front wheel drive car. Explain that to me.


-Cit
Don?t get me wrong; Honda makes great cars, great everyday driver NON RACE cars. Amazing how many people don't understand that.

Street legal? Adding exhaust to most cars makes them street illegal. Most mods to cars these days are not street legal. Who really cares about street legality unless you live in California and have to deal with CARB?
 

Lucky

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Originally posted by: Citation
Originally posted by: Lucky
Body Kits help acceleration.


no but they certainly might decrease drag/increase top speed.

Ohh give me a break!!!! Unless there is some serious cosmetic changes going on I doubt there are many cars out on the road that are street legal that will benefit from a body kit, the only thing that they decrease is your wallet and quite possibly manhood, find me one muscle car out there that has a "body kit" on it, only the ricers use that. And what?s with those spoilers all the ricers are sticking on their trunks??? Do they think that their Honda is going to be going fast enough that they are going to need the extra down force to keep traction??? So lets look at this logically, they are putting a mess of weight on the back of a front wheel drive car. Explain that to me.


-Cit
Don?t get me wrong; Honda makes great cars, great everyday driver NON RACE cars. Amazing how many people don't understand that.

Once again, I didnt say I was talking about civics.
rolleye.gif
 

Cyberian

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Originally posted by: Citation<br
Ohh give me a break!!!! Unless there is some serious cosmetic changes going on I doubt there are many cars out on the road that are street legal that will benefit from a body kit, the only thing that they decrease is your wallet and quite possibly manhood, find me one muscle car out there that has a "body kit" on it, only the ricers use that. And what?s with those spoilers all the ricers are sticking on their trunks??? Do they think that their Honda is going to be going fast enough that they are going to need the extra down force to keep traction??? So lets look at this logically, they are putting a mess of weight on the back of a front wheel drive car. Explain that to me.


-Cit
Don?t get me wrong; Honda makes great cars, great everyday driver NON RACE cars. Amazing how many people don't understand that.
You, sir, are an unmitigated ass.

 

AdamK47

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I have a good one:

The kids posting on this forum who admire imports post great insight into classic car misconceptions.
 

alkemyst

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that all muscle cars smoke today's 'muscle cars'....

more cylinders = more power (it's just smoothness really)

everyone owned some sort of sub 10sec car with all the hop ups (usually the same now driving a mini-van)

people saying a car they owned which was stock was 3-4 secs faster in the quarter than any road test you'll be able to find.

non-classic but intend a misconception....that hondas do not have a hamster on a wheel as an engine and two if it's a vtec.

:)