Civic Si gets STOMPED!!!!!

[bigbootydaddy]

pearl harbor?!???!?! LOL stick to saying yet another cs thread


<< I'm sick of the japs taking over american business in this country, >>


saying jap is like saying ni**er. I wont feel sorry for you when you cross the wrong people.

 

[Valhalla1]

just when I thought we were getting some common ground..

*yawn*


anyway, 4cyl may be fine for 16 year olds or grandma's, but for me, its not my choice. The engine that fits in with my lifestyle as a brash hot-headed 19 year old with an attitude is a big powerful V8, its just &quot;me&quot;. So I will not buy another car with fewer than 8 cylinders for at least the next 20 years.

 

[geno]

No one's trying to push them on you, I'm just trying to show you that a 4 cyl can be just as powerful as a 8 cyl out on the road in most cases, so there's no need for you to snivel at them.

 

[Valhalla1]

sure, a 4cyl can be as quick as a 8 cyl with lots of aftermarket work or super/turbo chargers. but even you know that the VAST majority of 4cyl cars are much slower and torque-less compared to V8's. without a turbo or nitrous or something, its just not going to happen

 

[geno]

<< the VAST majority of 4cyl cars are much slower and torque-less compared to V8's >>


Can't argue with ya there!

It's just, back in the day, a Daytona R/T (225HP) could prove to be very stiff comp for a 5.0

 

[Valhalla1]

I have no doubt that turbos can work magic on 4 cylinders.. just don't like to admit it

 

[geno]

<< just don't like to admit it >>


LOL

I've seen turbos work their magic on V8's before (I saw a 5.0 with a 12inch diesel turbo bolted to it! :Q), they are indeed special devices

 

[Dynamix3D]

I need to drive one of those fugly Z28's one day, this way I can feel all this power you keep whining about for myself.

 

[Dynamix3D]

imma throw one of those camaro v8 engines in my civic hatchback and smoke you all.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!! I will be invincible. Then I will turbo charge that b!tch and NOS the fvcker and I'll be runnin with Viper's.

 

[Valhalla1]

lol.. a smallblock 350 wont fit too well in a civic.. and it'll still be FWD.

maybe if you put slicks on the font, turn it around, put it in reverse and floor it..

 

[geno]

You could always convert it to RWD I know some people who've done this with their Daytonas/Chargers and stuffed some serious HP into them...

And a 350 in a Civic? I can't imagine how horrendous that torque steer would be!

 

[Mill]

Genocide-Tell everyone how lucky they are that I missed most of this thread.

$ for $ the z28/TA or Mustang (GT or Cobra) WILL BE FASTER. Add a turbo, nos or supercharger to both. The Imports will still be slower. Why take an economy car and build it to be fast? I know people will says because it is more of a challenge. Here is a challenge for you. Go buy a Geo Metro and get it to go 9's on the stock block. Now that is a challenge.

 

[geno]

lol, I was wondering where you were throughout the thread!
Yup, you can't deny that the cars you mentioned have a great bang/buck ratio. For the best performance for under 8-10k, I gotta nominate my FWD mopars

 

[vi edit]

I'm going to answer the question about why a lot of americans buy domestic economy cars over japanese economy cars.

Answer: American economy car's aren't engineered with a 5'8&quot;, 150 pound person in mind. Have any of you over the height of 6'0, and over 200 pounds tried fitting in a civic? It doesn't work. Now with many of the American econobox's on the other hand, I can fit into them fine. I've sat in Escorts, Neons, and Saturns. I can fit comfortably in all of them. Japanese cars on the other hand require a shoehorn.

 

[geno]

vi, out of curiousity, have you ever driven an Accord? My friend has one, and it's not much roomier than my Shadow (which has good interior space for it's size though)

 

[vi edit]

genocide, when I was shopping for cars about a year ago I took a '96 Accord 4 door for a spin. It had power seats and tilt...too bad the tilt stopped about 3 inches too short

Yes I could fit in it, but my knees rubbed the steering wheel making long commutes uncomfortable and unsafe since I couldn't freely get to the brake pedal.

I've drove a Mazda 626 and a Subaru Outback Wagon as well, all had the same problem. I just can't get my knees under the steering wheel.

Domestic cars are just built with bigger people in mind. The &quot;tilt&quot; in tilt steering is actually a tilt instead of a mediocre attempt at elevating the steering column.

This is also one thing I LOVE about the VW's and Audi's - they are the only cars that I have yet to see that have a telescoping steering column. That's a great comfort feature! For big legged guys like me, I can just pull out the steering column and move it out past my knees.

 

[Dynamix3D]

A Neon has more room than a Civic?!?! Hahaha... Bro a Neon and a Civic have equal amounts of room. My friend who is 6' and like 250lbs. Drives a Neon and he looks mad retarded driving it. The sh!t is so small and he legs are all cramped up. His knees rub the steering wheel. All I can say is, if you are that big then you shouldn't be driving a small car like a Neon or Civic. Get a Jeep, it'll suit your needs better.

 

[Soybomb]

Vi I know what you mean man. I sat in alot of cars last week at the st louis auto show. OMG you should have seem y 6'2&quot; self in the audi tt or even better, the s2000! That was hilarious. The best fitting imports that I found were saabs, but I&quot;m more of a domestic person anyway

 

[StageLeft]

[v]vi_edit[/b]

I think your legs must be longer than most peoples' legs! My dad is 6,2&quot; and about 250-270lb and believe it or no the used to drive a Subaru Justy. He grew up in England so was used to small cars but he fit in this (and BOY did he look stupid). I'm 5,11 195lb and I have yet to find a car that I can't fit in. Granted a civic isn't as comfortable as a maxima, but I can still fit in there...

On the other hand although I can fit into a subaru imprezza without a problem my knee is always between the steering wheel and the door with no room to spare. I hate to think what would happen if I was side-swiped on the left. Say good bye knee

 

[Dynamix3D]

Well I am a small dude so thank God I don't have to worry about these comfort problems in any car. I am 5'8&quot; and about 130lbs. Small lil' sucker...

 

[vi edit]

Skoorb, I do have fairly unproportional legs. My tibias are pretty long. That makes the room from my feet to my knees pretty important.

It's not so much the amount of leg room that's important, it's how high you can position the steering column. Japanese cars just don't allow the steering column to adjust very high.

 

[Dynamix3D]

When you live in my family, and no one drives American cars. You become accustomed to them. Then when I get in someone else's American they seem so sh!tty to me. Like I have been in so many Caveliers, and they are so sh!tty!!!! And boy do I mean it. Also Neon's have got to be the biggest POS's on the planet. Every person I know who owns one has problems with it every week, and its constantly in the shop. Let's not even talk about Taurus's or Escorts. And my new favorite the Focus; what the hell was Ford thinkin when they made this car? They must have been drinkin Budweiser cause the car looks like a frog. You can totally see American economy cars, are just the biggest POS's on the Planet. All I think American's can make are powerhouses that can drive fast in straight lines and guzzle gas like a basketball player guzzling Gatorade after playing ball in 100 degree weather for 5 hours straight. One think I'll give credit to American cars for is they're 4x4's and Trucks, but thats about it. But, if you have $40 a week to spend on gas then I guess a Camaro is the car for you. And if you like huge, long, boat looking cars, that weigh a ton then again a Camaro is for you. But Japanese economy cars will always be better made than any American economy car. Oh and by the way, Honda is moving up in the world of faster engines. Cause incase you don't know you should take a look at the new Integra aka RSX with its 200HP V6 i-VTEC engine. You guys in Camaro's and Mustang's will now have competition. Not to mention the new NSX is 400HP V8 and does 0-60 in 4 seconds. So for all of you who think Honda couldn't do it, they are bout to prove you wrong.

 

[Soybomb]

*yawn* Why the domestic bashing? I could say we all own domestics and every honda i've ever been in a generic looking, generic feeling car. They have no cool handling or acceration and look the same. But I won't because even if thats how I feel I know it can't be completely true

 

[Dynamix3D]

*yawn* Why the domestic bashing?

Ok who the hell asked all you Camaro owners to come on my thread and start talking about how Civic's are rice and they are slow, etc., etc.!?!? I didn't ask any of you American muscle car drivers to come on here and bash Civic's... I asked for Civic Si owners to come and post pics and tell us about there cars. But looks like no one listen's and I have yet to see anyone post pics of there Si except maybe 2 people, meanwhile they're 220 posts of Camaro owners bashing Civic's. If you don't want me to bash domestic cars, then don't come on my damn post talkin sh!t about Civic's.

 

[geno]

Dynamix, how can you base the quality of a car off of its looks? Cavaliers (the older ones) were cool cars, a little 2 door with a 140HP V6, nothing wrong with that. The older Chevy's were tanks (for their class), and last for a while. And the Neon had its problems during it's first few years, but they were ironed out. Neons are just as reliable as the next car. Ford is doing well with their act too, the Taurus' and Contours are gaining poularity and reliability as well. The US car market is gaining lost ground pretty quick




<< Ok who the hell asked all you Camaro owners to come on my thread and start talking about how Civic's are rice and they are slow, etc >>


Umm, the only 2 people where who have &quot;Camaro Pride&quot;, which is Valhalla and cablegod. And the reason why they say Civics are slow compared to them is because they are. No disrespect was meant, it's a simple fact!