circumcised? Your risk of hetrosexually transmitted HIV just went down by 70%

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: aircooled
Hi Mosh! I like mine the way it is..... I think my doc did a good cut.... don't you think?

you are a breath of fresh air in the thread.
yeh baby.

 

[GeekDrew]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

why are you telling me this? my original point was that circumcision is not mutilation.
i never said i favored circumcised over uncircumsized.

and what begs the question now is why are you talking to so many guys about their penises?

I didn't edit fast enough, read my post again.

And, sweetie, I'm gay - how could you possibly have missed that? I've been out to AT for over five years now. That makes it much more probable that I'm going to be discussing cock with men

 

[Noriaki]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
we weren't even talking "health benefits" at that point. GeekDrew was trying to claim that removing a finger and removing foreskin were comparable. they are not.

Phew...damn straight they aren't.

I jerk off like 3 times a day, do you have any idea how much lube I'd need to for that if I didn't have my foreskin. I'm a student I can't afford that.

You can have one of my pinkies. The function of my hand won't be significantly changed without it.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: ProviaFan

Originally posted by: moshquerade
no way you are pulling that one off. go ask anyone if they liken foreskin removal to having a digit removed from your hand.
it ain't flying. :laugh:

Have you ever experienced 1) losing a finger, or 2) losing a foreskin?

I have not experienced #1, but I have experienced #2, at an age at which I can remember what it felt like. You may not want to hear this, but it was most certainly not a laughing matter. Of course, the pain only lasted for a month or so, but I would speculate that having a finger amputated under anesthesia would be less painful during recovery, because it's easier to avoid using one's finger a few times per day than it is one's penis (you've got to piss sometime). Regardless, I'm sure if we cut off a baby's 5th finger a few days after birth, s/he wouldn't remember the pain. Why not?

get it straight: they still aren't the same, and i don't have to experience either procedure to realize that.

and i wasn't laughing at the procedure of circumcision only at the lame comparison.
get that straight, too.

Ok, if circumcision is so great, why not get yourself circumcised? I'm sure you could find a nice witch doctor to take care of it for you. After all, your labia is only vestigal skin... its doesn't serve any function, like protecting the vagina from dirt, right? :roll:

Before you jump on me about FGM, in most cases, they remove the labia as well as the clitoris. Google it.

why change the subject? ahhhh, because that is what you do when a valid point is stated.

we are talking about circumcision of a male. i am not a male. i am not speaking out against one's desire not to be circumcised. i am against calling circumcision mutilation.

stay on topic.

at what point does removing pieces of the body that you are supposed to have become "mutiliation" ? Is it by the wieght, the usefulness, how much more aesthetically pleasing someone claims it be? what are the metrics you use to determine mutilation vs. not ???

 

[YetioDoom]

Score.

 

[GeekDrew]

Originally posted by: Noriaki

Originally posted by: moshquerade
we weren't even talking "health benefits" at that point. GeekDrew was trying to claim that removing a finger and removing foreskin were comparable. they are not.

Phew...damn straight they aren't.

I jerk off like 3 times a day, do you have any idea how much lube I'd need to for that if I didn't have my foreskin. I'm a student I can't afford that.

You can have one of my pinkies. The function of my hand won't be significantly changed without it.

:thumbsup:

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: GeekDrew

Originally posted by: moshquerade

why are you telling me this? my original point was that circumcision is not mutilation.
i never said i favored circumcised over uncircumsized.

and what begs the question now is why are you talking to so many guys about their penises?

I didn't edit fast enough, read my post again.

And, sweetie, I'm gay - how could you possibly have missed that? I've been out to AT for over five years now. That makes it much more probable that I'm going to be discussing cock with men

maybe because i don't look for that, because i don't care. (if you are gay or not)

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: ProviaFan

Originally posted by: moshquerade
no way you are pulling that one off. go ask anyone if they liken foreskin removal to having a digit removed from your hand.
it ain't flying. :laugh:

Have you ever experienced 1) losing a finger, or 2) losing a foreskin?

I have not experienced #1, but I have experienced #2, at an age at which I can remember what it felt like. You may not want to hear this, but it was most certainly not a laughing matter. Of course, the pain only lasted for a month or so, but I would speculate that having a finger amputated under anesthesia would be less painful during recovery, because it's easier to avoid using one's finger a few times per day than it is one's penis (you've got to piss sometime). Regardless, I'm sure if we cut off a baby's 5th finger a few days after birth, s/he wouldn't remember the pain. Why not?

get it straight: they still aren't the same, and i don't have to experience either procedure to realize that.

and i wasn't laughing at the procedure of circumcision only at the lame comparison.
get that straight, too.

Ok, if circumcision is so great, why not get yourself circumcised? I'm sure you could find a nice witch doctor to take care of it for you. After all, your labia is only vestigal skin... its doesn't serve any function, like protecting the vagina from dirt, right? :roll:

Before you jump on me about FGM, in most cases, they remove the labia as well as the clitoris. Google it.

why change the subject? ahhhh, because that is what you do when a valid point is stated.

we are talking about circumcision of a male. i am not a male. i am not speaking out against one's desire not to be circumcised. i am against calling circumcision mutilation.

stay on topic.

at what point does removing pieces of the body that you are supposed to have become "mutiliation" ? Is it by the wieght, the usefulness, how much more aesthetically pleasing someone claims it be? what are the metrics you use to determine mutilation vs. not ???

i'm not up to play that game. :roll:
circumcision is not mutilation.

 

[GeekDrew]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: GeekDrew

Originally posted by: moshquerade

why are you telling me this? my original point was that circumcision is not mutilation.
i never said i favored circumcised over uncircumsized.

and what begs the question now is why are you talking to so many guys about their penises?

I didn't edit fast enough, read my post again.

And, sweetie, I'm gay - how could you possibly have missed that? I've been out to AT for over five years now. That makes it much more probable that I'm going to be discussing cock with men

maybe because i don't look for that, because i don't care. (if you are gay or not)

lol hey - you are the one that asked why I was discussing penises with other men

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: ProviaFan

Originally posted by: moshquerade
no way you are pulling that one off. go ask anyone if they liken foreskin removal to having a digit removed from your hand.
it ain't flying. :laugh:

Have you ever experienced 1) losing a finger, or 2) losing a foreskin?

I have not experienced #1, but I have experienced #2, at an age at which I can remember what it felt like. You may not want to hear this, but it was most certainly not a laughing matter. Of course, the pain only lasted for a month or so, but I would speculate that having a finger amputated under anesthesia would be less painful during recovery, because it's easier to avoid using one's finger a few times per day than it is one's penis (you've got to piss sometime). Regardless, I'm sure if we cut off a baby's 5th finger a few days after birth, s/he wouldn't remember the pain. Why not?

get it straight: they still aren't the same, and i don't have to experience either procedure to realize that.

and i wasn't laughing at the procedure of circumcision only at the lame comparison.
get that straight, too.

Ok, if circumcision is so great, why not get yourself circumcised? I'm sure you could find a nice witch doctor to take care of it for you. After all, your labia is only vestigal skin... its doesn't serve any function, like protecting the vagina from dirt, right? :roll:

Before you jump on me about FGM, in most cases, they remove the labia as well as the clitoris. Google it.

why change the subject? ahhhh, because that is what you do when a valid point is stated.

we are talking about circumcision of a male. i am not a male. i am not speaking out against one's desire not to be circumcised. i am against calling circumcision mutilation.

stay on topic.

at what point does removing pieces of the body that you are supposed to have become "mutiliation" ? Is it by the wieght, the usefulness, how much more aesthetically pleasing someone claims it be? what are the metrics you use to determine mutilation vs. not ???

i'm not up to play that game. :roll:
circumcision is not mutilation.

end of story. that is a nice opinion you have. :roll:

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: GeekDrew

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: GeekDrew

Originally posted by: moshquerade

why are you telling me this? my original point was that circumcision is not mutilation.
i never said i favored circumcised over uncircumsized.

and what begs the question now is why are you talking to so many guys about their penises?

I didn't edit fast enough, read my post again.

And, sweetie, I'm gay - how could you possibly have missed that? I've been out to AT for over five years now. That makes it much more probable that I'm going to be discussing cock with men

maybe because i don't look for that, because i don't care. (if you are gay or not)

lol hey - you are the one that asked why I was discussing penises with other men

well that explains it, but i also justified why i missed that that is your sexual orientation.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: ProviaFan

Originally posted by: moshquerade
no way you are pulling that one off. go ask anyone if they liken foreskin removal to having a digit removed from your hand.
it ain't flying. :laugh:

Have you ever experienced 1) losing a finger, or 2) losing a foreskin?

I have not experienced #1, but I have experienced #2, at an age at which I can remember what it felt like. You may not want to hear this, but it was most certainly not a laughing matter. Of course, the pain only lasted for a month or so, but I would speculate that having a finger amputated under anesthesia would be less painful during recovery, because it's easier to avoid using one's finger a few times per day than it is one's penis (you've got to piss sometime). Regardless, I'm sure if we cut off a baby's 5th finger a few days after birth, s/he wouldn't remember the pain. Why not?

get it straight: they still aren't the same, and i don't have to experience either procedure to realize that.

and i wasn't laughing at the procedure of circumcision only at the lame comparison.
get that straight, too.

Ok, if circumcision is so great, why not get yourself circumcised? I'm sure you could find a nice witch doctor to take care of it for you. After all, your labia is only vestigal skin... its doesn't serve any function, like protecting the vagina from dirt, right? :roll:

Before you jump on me about FGM, in most cases, they remove the labia as well as the clitoris. Google it.

why change the subject? ahhhh, because that is what you do when a valid point is stated.

we are talking about circumcision of a male. i am not a male. i am not speaking out against one's desire not to be circumcised. i am against calling circumcision mutilation.

stay on topic.

at what point does removing pieces of the body that you are supposed to have become "mutiliation" ? Is it by the wieght, the usefulness, how much more aesthetically pleasing someone claims it be? what are the metrics you use to determine mutilation vs. not ???

i'm not up to play that game. :roll:
circumcision is not mutilation.

end of story. that is a nice opinion you have.

thanks

 

[DidlySquat]

It's more important to me what a woman thinks (=moshquerade) than what a bunch of guys do.

moshquerade = represents most women

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: DidlySquat
It's more important to me what a woman thinks (=moshquerade) than what a bunch of guys do.

moshquerade = represents most women

bullsh1t. If that was the case most women would be on ATOT.

 

[ProviaFan]

If you don't want to argue the matter any more, that's fine, but simply saying that something is or is not so does not make it as such. There are too many posts for me to keep track of who said what, but numerous people have tried to justify circumcision based only on its supposed aesthetic properties and heath benefits. The former is personal preference (you can't say absolutely that one looks better than the other), and no one has yet posted any links to justify the latter.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: DidlySquat
It's more important to me what a woman thinks (=moshquerade) than what a bunch of guys do.

moshquerade = represents most women

bullsh1t. If that was the case most women would be on ATOT.

your attitude chased them all away

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: ProviaFan
If you don't want to argue the matter any more, that's fine, but simply saying that something is or is not so does not make it as such. There are too many posts for me to keep track of who said what, but numerous people have tried to justify circumcision based only on its supposed aesthetic properties and heath benefits. The former is personal preference (you can't say absolutely that one looks better than the other), and no one has yet posted any links to justify the latter.

yeh, you must've skipped over the post where i justified it. i provided a dictionary text reference to what mutilation actually is. it verified what i have been saying.

 

[ProviaFan]

Would most women make major changes to their bodies at the request of a man? (ok, I haven't been following stats on breast enlargement surgeries and such, so maybe this is wrong.) I certainly wouldn't expect them to! Nor would I make major changes (defined for this post as having surgery to remove or extend a body part) to myself based on what a limited number of women might demand. Besides, if she gets so hung up over the shape and appearance of a small normally hidden part of my body, I don't think I'd really want to have an extended relationship with her anyway.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: DidlySquat
It's more important to me what a woman thinks (=moshquerade) than what a bunch of guys do.

moshquerade = represents most women

bullsh1t. If that was the case most women would be on ATOT.

your attitude chased them all away

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH FVCKING ATTITUDE AND IF YOU HAVE PROBLEM WITH IT YOU CAN DI.AF!!!!!

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: ProviaFan
Would most women make major changes to their bodies at the request of a man? (ok, I haven't been following stats on breast enlargement surgeries and such, so maybe this is wrong.) I certainly wouldn't expect them to! Nor would I make major changes (defined for this post as having surgery to remove or extend a body part) to myself based on what a limited number of women might demand. Besides, if she gets so hung up over the shape and appearance of a small normally hidden part of my body, I don't think I'd really want to have an extended relationship with her anyway.

are you referring to me?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: DidlySquat
It's more important to me what a woman thinks (=moshquerade) than what a bunch of guys do.

moshquerade = represents most women

bullsh1t. If that was the case most women would be on ATOT.

your attitude chased them all away

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH FVCKING ATTITUDE AND IF YOU HAVE PROBLEM WITH IT YOU CAN DI.AF!!!!!

:thumbsup: :laugh:

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
yeh, you must've skipped over the post where i justified it. i provided a dictionary text reference to what mutilation actually is. it verified what i have been saying.

It's not extreme mutilation in the sense of losing an arm or a leg, but I'm not going to take your word for it because you have no experience in this matter, and since you have never lost a foreskin you can not accurately comment on how it feels.

 

[DidlySquat]

Originally posted by: ProviaFan
Would most women make major changes to their bodies at the request of a man? (ok, I haven't been following stats on breast enlargement surgeries and such, so maybe this is wrong.) I certainly wouldn't expect them to! Nor would I make major changes (defined for this post as having surgery to remove or extend a body part) to myself based on what a limited number of women might demand. Besides, if she gets so hung up over the shape and appearance of a small normally hidden part of my body, I don't think I'd really want to have an extended relationship with her anyway.

it's not a major change - it's like removing a mole. And btw, a lot of people go to great lengths to increase their sexual enjoyments.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
are you referring to me?

You didn't tell me to get circumcised (or have any other surgical body modification), so evidently not.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: DidlySquat
it's not a major change - it's like removing a mole. And btw, a lot of people go to great lengths to increase their sexual enjoyments.

Was your circumcision performed at some time after the age of infancy? If so, do you tend to enjoy pain?