Cindy Sheehan's former husband and son call her out

[zendari]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: zendari

My family supports me. My family supports me. Blah blah blah wah wah wah.

Yeah right, what a lying sack of sh!t.

When you say "blah blah blah wah wah wah," are you talking about Cindy Sheehan or yourself?

I'm talking about how Cindy Sheehan lied about how she had the full 100% support of her family on this charade. She dismissed her inlaws with a wave of her hand saying "they don't know Casey". I guess now she dismisses the boy's brother and father too. :disgust:

Funny how everything conservatives said last week came through. Her husband divorced her and now her remaining son has distanced himself as well. If Casey was alive, I bet he would want nothing to do with this dishonorable sellout of a soldier's life for partisan politics.

 

[Pepsei]

If Casey was alive, I bet he would want nothing to do with this dishonorable sellout of his life for partisan politics.

If he was alive, I bet you his wish would be to stay alive.

 

[shimsham]

i just cant trust this womans sincerity. either she has completely flipped out with grief and needs serious psychiatric help, or shes just an evil attention whore turned puppet of bushs opposition.

if all she wanted to do was talk to the president about his role in her sons death, why not just drive up to crawford in the toyota corolla or yukon or whatever she drives? why did she roll up in the "impeachment tour" van with and entourage of press?

why is she willing to lose her family over this? why stay for so long and neglect those that need their wife and mother when they too lost this young man and are grieving? i dont know of any truly loving parent that would do that for what will ultimaltely achieve nothing. her sons not coming back, and her protest alone will not make bush withdraw the troops. why not just go out to crawford, say what you have to say for the cameras (because you know one interview on the road would spread through the world like wild fire), then pack up and go home to be with your family and give them the love and comfort they need?

those 2 facts alone make me question her character. yes, she has vaild points of view on the war, but its nothing that hasnt been said by thousands of people, from talking heads to politicians, for the past few years. so if she really is just a grieving mother wanting to talk to bush, why all the media, fanfare, political rallies, and willingness to lose her family?

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: zendari
PATRICK SHEEHAN SPEAKS OUT!!!

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President Bush might have a few more allies in his stalemate with activist Cindy Sheehan - Sheehan's family.

"My kids and I feel like we've had two losses: Casey and now our wife and mother," Cindy's estranged husband, Patrick Sheehan, tells People magazine. "The kids are angry and lonely for her." His wife has been camped outside Bush's ranch in Crawford, Tex., since Aug. 6, hoping to talk to the President about the death of her soldier son, Casey, in Iraq.

Son Andrew, 21, adds: "I think she should come home."




My family supports me. My family supports me. Blah blah blah wah wah wah.

Yeah right, what a lying sack of sh!t.

Her family wants her home? HOW SHOCKING! You're an ass.

QFT Where in that statement do they disargee with what she is doing? Looks like the NYDN is doing some paraphrasing. I'll wait to read the real deal. LOL, nice try LordT. Keep googling.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: zendari

I'm talking about how Cindy Sheehan lied about how she had the full 100% support of her family on this charade. She dismissed her inlaws with a wave of her hand saying "they don't know Casey". I guess now she dismisses the boy's brother and father too. :disgust:

Funny how everything conservatives said last week came through. Her husband divorced her and now her remaining son has distanced himself as well. If Casey was alive, I bet he would want nothing to do with this dishonorable sellout of a soldier's life for partisan politics.

I bet if he were alive, he wouldn't stand for you calling his mother names.

The teeny snippet (from the Daily News of all places) doesn't make her a liar - it provides no clue as to how her family felt when she left.

As I've posted here before, I think the best thing for everyone involved (particularly Ms. Sheehan herself) would be for her to pack up and go home, and I agree with her son in this regard. That said, she's obviously passionate, and the prospect of creeps like you tarring her good name is presumably motivating her to stay longer.

 

[umbrella39]

Zendari, you should be given a vacation for your BS thread title change.

Pathological liar. Why didn't you just link this spin on the words?

Spews

No one called her out, no one said they disagree with her stand. No one said they didn't support her.

Let's dissect, shall we?

"I think my mother should come home" - Hmm, neocon translation: I don't agree with what she has done and she is wrong, Casey wanted to be in Iraq and supported Bush and the war.

"I don't think she's done the best for the family" - Neocon translation: Casey would be ashamed of her and she is dishonoring him.

"My kids and I feel like we've had two losses, Casey, and now our wife and mother. The kids are angry and lonely for her." - Neocon translation: The kids all hate her and she is dead as far as we are all concerned.

Zendari, GTFA already.

 

[tommywishbone]

.... and all this nastiness, courtesy of George W. Bush... lovely.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Zendari, you should be given a vacation for your BS thread title change.

Pathological liar. Why didn't you just link this spin on the words?

Spews

No one called her out, no one said they disagree with her stand. No one said they didn't support her.

Zendari, GTFA already.

You're the only one spinning here, trying to make it sound like her family supports her doing the exact opposite of what they want her to do.

You still think this is truly about Casey or her family anymore? :laugh:

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Zendari, you should be given a vacation for your BS thread title change.

Pathological liar. Why didn't you just link this spin on the words?

Spews

No one called her out, no one said they disagree with her stand. No one said they didn't support her.

Zendari, GTFA already.

You're the only one spinning here, trying to make it sound like her family supports her doing the exact opposite of what they want her to do.

BS. You are the spin wizzard. Own it. The quotes don't support your lies. In your sick little world, them wanting her to come home = not supporting her. GTFA. I would want my wife to have come home by now, too. But it would not mean I don't support her cause. Got any quotes that can back the opposite of that up? She has made her decision, and since I have no personal stake in her family life, I am happy she is choosing to stay. Ha ha ha. She ain't goint anywhere. And I hope she follows him to DC

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
.... and all this nastiness, courtesy of George W. Bush... lovely.

In all fairness, IMO the worst nastiness is coming from Rush, Hannity et al, and their amateur proteges, like young Zendari.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Once again you violate the rules of the board.

a 'CUT & PASTE" does not qualify as your own authentic input.

This thread should be locked - as should ALL the threads that you start without following the rules.

I don't think you'd learn even if you were repeatedly warned, vacationed, or banned.

Ha ha that's rich coming from you - king of the One line comment.

Agreed. Kirk, you might want to check you own history on this subject, as I'm seeing Zen's multiple paragraph comment vs your one line "this is wrong" one.

You're a wierd one man. Do you like just coming in and dissecting arguments between others?

WTF? 😕

One of us has been actively contributing to this thread while the other just now showed up to make a single, off-topic comment.

Did I miss a memo about today being Irony Demonstration Day or something?

😕 😕 😕

Dunno!!!

😕

I'm just pointing out the fact that your whole "I'm the rational one" gig is lame and its time to give it up. You obviously have an agenda. No one on the left said she was connected to Jesus or anything of the sort. The best thing I've heard about her here is that shes 'brave'. And thats indisputible, shes suffered quite a few threats from your friendly Texans already and taken it in stride.

The right on the other hand is vehemntly attacking her, calling her a lying sack of s*** amongst other disrespectful remarks.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Zendari, you should be given a vacation for your BS thread title change.

Pathological liar. Why didn't you just link this spin on the words?

Spews

No one called her out, no one said they disagree with her stand. No one said they didn't support her.

Zendari, GTFA already.

You're the only one spinning here, trying to make it sound like her family supports her doing the exact opposite of what they want her to do.

BS. You are the spin wizzard. Own it. The quotes don't support your lies. In your sick little world, them wanting her to come home = not supporting her. GTFA. I would want my wife to have come home by now, too. But it would not mean I don't support her cause. Got any quotes that can back the opposite of that up? She has made her decision, and since I have no personal stake in her family life, I am happy she is choosing to stay. Ha ha ha. She ain't goint anywhere. And I hope she follows him to DC

eh, i dont know. nothing says "i dont support you" more than a husband filing for divorce. the fact that her kids have spoken out lends me to believe they may be wavering in what ever support they may have had for her. kinda like "i support the troops but not the war" but flip-flopped. they may support what shes doing, but its time for her to come back to her family.

 

[Bumrush99]

She sounds like a miserable old cvnt using the death of her son to push her radical fringe agenda.

A lot like the people that used Terri Schiavo like a tool to further their agendas. No difference between the two.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Zendari, you should be given a vacation for your BS thread title change.

Pathological liar. Why didn't you just link this spin on the words?

Spews

No one called her out, no one said they disagree with her stand. No one said they didn't support her.

Zendari, GTFA already.

You're the only one spinning here, trying to make it sound like her family supports her doing the exact opposite of what they want her to do.

BS. You are the spin wizzard. Own it. The quotes don't support your lies. In your sick little world, them wanting her to come home = not supporting her. GTFA. I would want my wife to have come home by now, too. But it would not mean I don't support her cause. Got any quotes that can back the opposite of that up? She has made her decision, and since I have no personal stake in her family life, I am happy she is choosing to stay. Ha ha ha. She ain't goint anywhere. And I hope she follows him to DC

eh, i dont know. nothing says "i dont support you" more than a husband filing for divorce. the fact that her kids have spoken out lends me to believe they may be wavering in what ever support they may have had for her. kinda like "i support the troops but not the war" but flip-flopped. they may support what shes doing, but its time for her to come back to her family.

They had filed for divorce LONG before this protest. Try again.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

The left-wing hype machine is trying their best to move this story but it just keeps tripping over itself because it's planly obvious to everyone, except those who refuse to see, that Sheehan is not sincere.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
.... and all this nastiness, courtesy of George W. Bush... lovely.

In all fairness, IMO the worst nastiness is coming from Rush, Hannity et al, and their amateur proteges, like young Zendari.

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
She sounds like a miserable old cvnt using the death of her son to push her radical fringe agenda.

I take that back - the worst nastiness is coming from someone called Bumrush99.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The left-wing hype machine is trying their best to move this story but it just keeps tripping over itself because it's planly obvious to everyone, except those who refuse to see, that Sheehan is not sincere.

OH bullsh*t. You people are sick. Get help.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Zendari, you should be given a vacation for your BS thread title change.

Pathological liar. Why didn't you just link this spin on the words?

Spews

No one called her out, no one said they disagree with her stand. No one said they didn't support her.

Zendari, GTFA already.

You're the only one spinning here, trying to make it sound like her family supports her doing the exact opposite of what they want her to do.

BS. You are the spin wizzard. Own it. The quotes don't support your lies. In your sick little world, them wanting her to come home = not supporting her. GTFA. I would want my wife to have come home by now, too. But it would not mean I don't support her cause. Got any quotes that can back the opposite of that up? She has made her decision, and since I have no personal stake in her family life, I am happy she is choosing to stay. Ha ha ha. She ain't goint anywhere. And I hope she follows him to DC

eh, i dont know. nothing says "i dont support you" more than a husband filing for divorce. the fact that her kids have spoken out lends me to believe they may be wavering in what ever support they may have had for her. kinda like "i support the troops but not the war" but flip-flopped. they may support what shes doing, but its time for her to come back to her family.

They had filed for divorce LONG before this protest. Try again.

missed that in articles. time to reread.

edit: seperated, yes. no file until she was already there for a week. this mustve been the proverbial straw.

 

[Proletariat]

In other news, Rush Limbaugh is officially "Todays worst person in the world" according to Olbermann:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200508180001

On August 17, MSNBC host Keith Olbermann named nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh "today's worst person in the world" for saying on his August 15 radio show that"Cindy Sheehan is just Bill Burkett. Her story is nothing more than forged documents. There's nothing about it that's real." Commenting on Limbaugh's remarks -- which Media Matters noted on August 16 -- Olbermann said, "I guess she made up that dead-son-in-Iraq business! He [Limbaugh] also referred to her supporters as 'dope-smoking FM types.' I guess the painkillers wipe out your memory along with your ethics. Rush Limbaugh, today's worst person in the world!"

Sounds like a lot of folks here are little Rush padawans eh?

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Zendari, you should be given a vacation for your BS thread title change.

Pathological liar. Why didn't you just link this spin on the words?

Spews

No one called her out, no one said they disagree with her stand. No one said they didn't support her.

Zendari, GTFA already.

You're the only one spinning here, trying to make it sound like her family supports her doing the exact opposite of what they want her to do.

BS. You are the spin wizzard. Own it. The quotes don't support your lies. In your sick little world, them wanting her to come home = not supporting her. GTFA. I would want my wife to have come home by now, too. But it would not mean I don't support her cause. Got any quotes that can back the opposite of that up? She has made her decision, and since I have no personal stake in her family life, I am happy she is choosing to stay. Ha ha ha. She ain't goint anywhere. And I hope she follows him to DC

eh, i dont know. nothing says "i dont support you" more than a husband filing for divorce. the fact that her kids have spoken out lends me to believe they may be wavering in what ever support they may have had for her. kinda like "i support the troops but not the war" but flip-flopped. they may support what shes doing, but its time for her to come back to her family.

Put yourself in his shoes. I am sure he feels that this cause is more important to her than him or the surviving kids. He feels he has lost his wife. Does that mean he does not support the REASON she did it in the first place? Only he can say and in reality, it changes nothing. Just something else for the right wing fringe to stick on their flags and wave.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Zendari, you should be given a vacation for your BS thread title change.

Pathological liar. Why didn't you just link this spin on the words?

Spews

No one called her out, no one said they disagree with her stand. No one said they didn't support her.

Zendari, GTFA already.

You're the only one spinning here, trying to make it sound like her family supports her doing the exact opposite of what they want her to do.

BS. You are the spin wizzard. Own it. The quotes don't support your lies. In your sick little world, them wanting her to come home = not supporting her. GTFA. I would want my wife to have come home by now, too. But it would not mean I don't support her cause. Got any quotes that can back the opposite of that up? She has made her decision, and since I have no personal stake in her family life, I am happy she is choosing to stay. Ha ha ha. She ain't goint anywhere. And I hope she follows him to DC

eh, i dont know. nothing says "i dont support you" more than a husband filing for divorce. the fact that her kids have spoken out lends me to believe they may be wavering in what ever support they may have had for her. kinda like "i support the troops but not the war" but flip-flopped. they may support what shes doing, but its time for her to come back to her family.

They had filed for divorce LONG before this protest. Try again.

Actually they were separated for a while before this protest. He only filed for divorce a few week ago I think.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: zendari

I'm talking about how Cindy Sheehan lied about how she had the full 100% support of her family on this charade. She dismissed her inlaws with a wave of her hand saying "they don't know Casey". I guess now she dismisses the boy's brother and father too. :disgust:

Funny how everything conservatives said last week came through. Her husband divorced her and now her remaining son has distanced himself as well. If Casey was alive, I bet he would want nothing to do with this dishonorable sellout of a soldier's life for partisan politics.

I bet if he were alive, he wouldn't stand for you calling his mother names.

The teeny snippet (from the Daily News of all places) doesn't make her a liar - it provides no clue as to how her family felt when she left.

As I've posted here before, I think the best thing for everyone involved (particularly Ms. Sheehan herself) would be for her to pack up and go home, and I agree with her son in this regard. That said, she's obviously passionate, and the prospect of creeps like you tarring her good name is presumably motivating her to stay longer.

What I don't grasp, and what no one here seems to be able to answer, is why exactly you feel she has a "good name" to begin with. Even if you dismiss all the rhetoric flung at her, you're not left with much about her, and certainly very little that could be considered "positive." So where does this "saintly" image come from? Is it an defensive attempt at an "ultra-humanization" of her, borne from the accusations of dehumanizing coming from her critics? If so, why can't you dismiss this as easily as you dimiss criticism of her?

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The left-wing hype machine is trying their best to move this story but it just keeps tripping over itself because it's planly obvious to everyone, except those who refuse to see, that Sheehan is not sincere.

:roll: Look what side is trying their hardest to move the story away from Bush and onto the mother. You are joke.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The left-wing hype machine is trying their best to move this story but it just keeps tripping over itself because it's planly obvious to everyone, except those who refuse to see, that Sheehan is not sincere.

OH bullsh*t. You people are sick. Get help.

Michael Moore, is that you?

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Zendari, you should be given a vacation for your BS thread title change.

Pathological liar. Why didn't you just link this spin on the words?

Spews

No one called her out, no one said they disagree with her stand. No one said they didn't support her.

Zendari, GTFA already.

You're the only one spinning here, trying to make it sound like her family supports her doing the exact opposite of what they want her to do.

BS. You are the spin wizzard. Own it. The quotes don't support your lies. In your sick little world, them wanting her to come home = not supporting her. GTFA. I would want my wife to have come home by now, too. But it would not mean I don't support her cause. Got any quotes that can back the opposite of that up? She has made her decision, and since I have no personal stake in her family life, I am happy she is choosing to stay. Ha ha ha. She ain't goint anywhere. And I hope she follows him to DC

eh, i dont know. nothing says "i dont support you" more than a husband filing for divorce. the fact that her kids have spoken out lends me to believe they may be wavering in what ever support they may have had for her. kinda like "i support the troops but not the war" but flip-flopped. they may support what shes doing, but its time for her to come back to her family.

They had filed for divorce LONG before this protest. Try again.

missed that in articles. time to reread.

The couple had been seperated since June 1. The divorce was only recorded just recently.

The divorce was not because of this protest, despite the right-wing's smear trying to insinuate that.
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