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Churchs theory now totally disproved

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Sigh.. Why do pseudo-intellectuals always call it "Church," as if it's one organization with one set of beliefs? I've seen churches that preach hate and others that were instrumental in the civil rights movement..
 
bignateyk said:
Also, the more modern view of creation is that god set into motion what would be equivalent of the "big bang". I guess this comes from in the bible where they talk about light emerging from darkness. The whole 6 days/nights or whatever is just a story to help people understand it. So basically some more scientifically inclined modern Christians believe that god (timeless) created a set of rules and time, and set the whole thing in motion. If you consider the creation in the bible to be a metaphor, it surprisingly actually works pretty well with current scientific views of how the universe was created.

I guess it just depends on how you interpret the bible, and which churchs theory you are referring to.
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I have similiar beliefs.
 
bignateyk said:
Why would this disprove church theory? (Honest question.. it very well might). Does it say somewhere in the bible that earth is the only planet that contains life? I always just assumed it said that god created the universe, so what's to say he didn't (hypothetically) sprinkle some life in other places.
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The Bible doesn't say that there is only life on Earth. Of course, it doesn't say that there is life elsewhere as well. You could stretch the passage in John about Jesus saying "I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also" to mean Jesus visited some aliens. However, the Mormons also use that passage to say that Jesus went to the Native Americans, so I wouldn't be saying that there are Biblical implications of alien life.
 
I'm an agnostic with strong atheist sympathies. I find the claim of finding extra-terrestrial organic life in/on a meteorite as extraordinary a claim as a virgin birth, reincarnation, or rising from the dead. Iron octohedrite meteorites are thought to form under conditions similar to those found within the earth's core or at the core/mantle boundary. Stony meteorites have mineral compositions that suggest formation under conditions similar to those found in the earth's mantle. The common theory of meteor generation from these environments involves the destruction of planetoids or planets with these rock fragments flung into space. To suggest that rocks with these types of histories bear extra-terrestrial organic life requires a very high burden of proof.
 
what if my religion says God created science and all scientific/natural laws

so however the organic life found on meteorites got there, it was due to science, which God created

when they say "God created the heavens and the earth" , i think it means the universe and all natural laws (gravity, physics, particles, etc)
 
Which church? From the title I thought this thread was about a theory from some guy named "Church".

Also, the Bible never says anything for or against life anywhere else. "Life" is limited to creatures that have blood and a circulatory system, by the biblical definition. The modern biological definition for "life" is different, obviously, and includes microscopic organisms.
 
I think the only people in "Church" who don't accept science are the Young Earth Creationist Sarah Palin supporters. You know, the same people who are also "Birthers" and Fox News talking heads.
 
Kadarin said:
I think the only people in "Church" who don't accept science are the Young Earth Creationist Sarah Palin supporters. You know, the same people who are also "Birthers" and Fox News talking heads.
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Seriously? I used to think that, until I saw polls for the number of Americans who believe evolution. We're the laughing stock of the developed world when it comes to believing in science.
 
Fritzo said:
I have a feeling the OP thinks that all people that are religious go around knocking on people's doors and yelling GOD IS GREAT PRAISE JESUS! and think that the Earth was created in 7 days and is only 6000 years old. This bugs him, and he has little else in life to make him feel superior, so he has to keep pointing this out.
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He's a she and she's a kiwi. And AT kiwi's are known to be retards.
 
This is probably one of the most nonsensical threads I've ever read through. I honestly had no idea what this was about from the title, it's interesting though, the proposition that there is this person "Church" who has a theory about something that a broken link disproves.
 
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