Chrono Trigger Resurrection

austin316

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I never played the original SNES game, but would have purchased this in a heartbeat. Now, I understand that Square had the right to issue a cease and desist, but if these fanatics were willing to spend this much time to create this game FOR FREE, why in the world would Square not finance them and release this game? They could have offered this team like $500,000 to finish this game and could have made millions off of its sale.

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Aikouka

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Originally posted by: randay
uh, I dont see a problem with square protecting thier IP.

Square has other companies front their remakes quite often, what people don't understand is why wouldn't they let them finish it and then market it. I think the only reason is that it was being built for the PC and not consoles, so it wouldn't have much of a market.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: randay
uh, I dont see a problem with square protecting thier IP.

They had much better options. They should have bought out these guys who were making it and then sell the product to the public. They wasted an opportunity and killed what could have been an amazing game as well as a jump start on the possibility of even more future releases of the series. They gained nothing by pulling the cease and desist card and crushed what could have been a goldmine for many years to come.
 

austin316

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Originally posted by: randay
uh, I dont see a problem with square protecting thier IP.

I understand, but Square, like any company, wants to make money. This would have been a golden opportunity.
 

R Nilla

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Wow, this would have been awesome. I've never completed it, but I absolutely love Chrono Trigger.
 

RandomFool

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It's their IP and there is little point in buying them because I'm sure Square could easily recreate that but it'd be about 100x better.

That said Chrono Trigger was a great game.
 

DaveSimmons

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I just see a 3-D movie not a game.

The fact that some fans would like to make a game doesn't mean they're capable of it, especially one to be sold instead of given away.
 

VashHT

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
I just see a 3-D movie not a game.

The fact that some fans would like to make a game doesn't mean they're capable of it, especially one to be sold instead of given away.

It,s a remake I thought, that's not exactly a new game. The bulk of the material is already done (story, characters, battle system) it looks like a graphical remake of the original game. Of course I could be wrong I haven't read up on it really.
 

DaveSimmons

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That's definitely easier than designing, playtesting and balancing a game from scratch but it's still a lot of work and Sqenix has no reason to believe there people are capable of it.

For every Counter-Strilke there are hundreds of mods that are never finished, same with modules for games like Neverwinter Nights.

Also, a PC version in January 2009 could mess up plans (that I'm making up) for releasing a DS/PSP version in July 2009, especially if the PC version is given away free.
 

austin316

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Originally posted by: RandomFool
It's their IP and there is little point in buying them because I'm sure Square could easily recreate that but it'd be about 100x better.

That said Chrono Trigger was a great game.

but also 100X more expensive.
 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: austin316
Originally posted by: RandomFool
It's their IP and there is little point in buying them because I'm sure Square could easily recreate that but it'd be about 100x better.

That said Chrono Trigger was a great game.

but also 100X more expensive.

We don't know that. You really can't tell at what stage in development the remake was from that video. It could have been possible that Square would want to take a different direction with any remake or that they would require a significant amount of work to complete it or to bring it to their satisfaction. Or maybe they felt the time was not right for a remake, and it would be pointless to hold onto what had been made for a few years as it would go obsolete. A quick google shows that they closed down in 2004, Square had reissued the original Chrono Trigger on the Playstation in 2001 which might put a remake release a little too soon.
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: randay
perhaps they already have plans.

I thought of that possibility, and then I remembered what company we were talking about. This is the same company that made a high definition version of the FF7 intro for the PS3 just to generate hype but still has no FF7 remake in the works (and I'm not talking about one of their numerous crappy sequels, I'm talking about a carbon copy of FF7 with updated graphics). It's another billion-dollar idea that they just can't seem to comprehend.

Square-Enix is run by retards. Square-Enix would rather dump millions of dollars into releasing 3 versions of FFXIII (two of which sound horrible) than dump a significantly smaller sum into updating the graphics of an already completed game that would generate much larger profits. You've already cut out the guys who design a storyline and game mechanics, that's a big chunk of money right there.

The fans WANT a remake of FF7 and Crono Trigger. We WANT them. Of course we also want new games, but how hard is it to fund a small team and have them remake these two classics?
 

mlm

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Chrono Trigger is IP hell. The rights are distributed amongst the different members of the team, most of whom no longer have any affiliation with SE.

That's the biggest hurdle SE is facing with the game.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: austin316
I never played the original SNES game, but would have purchased this in a heartbeat. Now, I understand that Square had the right to issue a cease and desist, but if these fanatics were willing to spend this much time to create this game FOR FREE, why in the world would Square not finance them and release this game? They could have offered this team like $500,000 to finish this game and could have made millions off of its sale.

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Because theyre going to do it themselves eventually.

Its kinda like if you came home one day and walked in on someone else boning your wife. You were planning on making another baby, so are you going to just sit there and wait till he's finished, give him a pat on the back, and then raise the illegitimate kid?
 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: austin316
I never played the original SNES game, but would have purchased this in a heartbeat. Now, I understand that Square had the right to issue a cease and desist, but if these fanatics were willing to spend this much time to create this game FOR FREE, why in the world would Square not finance them and release this game? They could have offered this team like $500,000 to finish this game and could have made millions off of its sale.

Trailer

Because theyre going to do it themselves eventually.

Its kinda like if you came home one day and walked in on someone else boning your wife. You were planning on making another baby, so are you going to just sit there and wait till he's finished, give him a pat on the back, and then raise the illegitimate kid?

Hahah.
 
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Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: austin316
I never played the original SNES game, but would have purchased this in a heartbeat. Now, I understand that Square had the right to issue a cease and desist, but if these fanatics were willing to spend this much time to create this game FOR FREE, why in the world would Square not finance them and release this game? They could have offered this team like $500,000 to finish this game and could have made millions off of its sale.

Trailer

Because theyre going to do it themselves eventually.

Its kinda like if you came home one day and walked in on someone else boning your wife. You were planning on making another baby, so are you going to just sit there and wait till he's finished, give him a pat on the back, and then raise the illegitimate kid?

If this illegitimate kid shit $100 bills, yes.

;) :p
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: austin316
I never played the original SNES game, but would have purchased this in a heartbeat. Now, I understand that Square had the right to issue a cease and desist, but if these fanatics were willing to spend this much time to create this game FOR FREE, why in the world would Square not finance them and release this game? They could have offered this team like $500,000 to finish this game and could have made millions off of its sale.

Trailer

Because theyre going to do it themselves eventually.

Its kinda like if you came home one day and walked in on someone else boning your wife. You were planning on making another baby, so are you going to just sit there and wait till he's finished, give him a pat on the back, and then raise the illegitimate kid?

If this illegitimate kid shit $100 bills, yes.

;) :p

LOL I'd have to agree that this would be the exception, although I thought the wife boning analogy was retarded
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: austin316
I never played the original SNES game, but would have purchased this in a heartbeat. Now, I understand that Square had the right to issue a cease and desist, but if these fanatics were willing to spend this much time to create this game FOR FREE, why in the world would Square not finance them and release this game? They could have offered this team like $500,000 to finish this game and could have made millions off of its sale.

Trailer

Because theyre going to do it themselves eventually.

Its kinda like if you came home one day and walked in on someone else boning your wife. You were planning on making another baby, so are you going to just sit there and wait till he's finished, give him a pat on the back, and then raise the illegitimate kid?

If this illegitimate kid shit $100 bills, yes.

;) :p

LOL I'd have to agree that this would be the exception, although I thought the wife boning analogy was retarded

As retarded as letting a bunch of amateurs handle a remake of one of the most cherished square franchises of all time?
 

skace

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Their remake looked to have more effort put into it than most of SE's ports do. So we can stop mocking them for being a bunch of amateurs. I wouldn't hold my breath for a real remake of CT from SE, just don't see it happening.
 

erwos

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Originally posted by: skace
Their remake looked to have more effort put into it than most of SE's ports do. So we can stop mocking them for being a bunch of amateurs. I wouldn't hold my breath for a real remake of CT from SE, just don't see it happening.
Actually, I think I'll keep on calling them amateurs. Thanks for playing. I don't blame SE at all for cracking down on this - if someone tried to use my intellectual property without permission, I'd do the same.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: BD2003
As retarded as letting a bunch of amateurs handle a remake of one of the most cherished square franchises of all time?

Hah, amateurs... I guess someone forgot to read who exactly comprised the team that was making this game. Before their site shut down and stuff, they were noted as people that were already in the gaming/media business. They were professionals that liked the game and wanted to see it redone.