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Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

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Any Syndrome is diagnosed by the symptoms, because the cause hasn't been found. That's the definition of syndrome.

That applies to CFS, RLS, SARS, etc. Sometimes, even after the cause has been found, the syndrome name remains popular. Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS) is one such syndrome. It's no longer a syndrome, as the cause (HIV) has been found, but people still call it AIDS.
 
I have chronic fatigue...

But that's due to chronic sleep-deprivation 😛
 
My wife was diagnosed with cfs, along with fibromialgia. Turns out sleep apnea was the main cause- not getting enough oxygen was giving her something similar to a hangover everyday.

No she has a breathing machine she wears at night and she is feeling MUCH better.
 
Originally posted by: allisolm
Originally posted by: BeauJangles

:thumbsup: My mom has Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Crones Disease.
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:laugh:
While the diseases themselves are no laughing matter, calling your mom's illness crone's is.
She might take issue with that. Although my husband might say I have Crone's Disease. 😀

crone - a withered, witchlike old woman.
Chron's Disease - what your mother has.
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Alright well it was a typo and I guess I was tired.
 
CFS.....meh. Seems like we have a lot of illnesses that all share very common symptoms these days. Which kind of screams that the problem is still there but isn't understood - whether it be lifestyle, viral or genetic.
 
It's not a diagnosis, it's a syndrome. There are people who have chronic fatigue for a variety of reasons but the root cause is not diagnosed, only the symptoms and features (syndrome).
 
My mother-in-law (an MD, FWIW) has it though I don't know how "real" the diagnosis is. She definitely has, um, issues though, both physical and otherwise.
 
I suspect that eventually a cause will be found that explains a number of cases. I'll guess that it'll be a chronic viral infection, perhaps a virus we don't know about yet. There's been some explanation that EBV might be behind some cases (if you've ever had mono, you know how it makes you just incredibly tired), but I don't think the data supports it.

Problem at the moment is it's pretty hard to tell when someone's faking/just lazy, so how do you know?
 
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Problem at the moment is it's pretty hard to tell when someone's faking/just lazy, so how do you know?
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That's why I said that I can't get behind someone who hides behind their disease. But if the person goes out every day and does as much as they can, I have an immense amount of respect for that.
 
I think I probably have it. I'm tired all the time no matter what I do. Exercise, B12 supplements, and Caffeine doesn't seem to help. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: xSauronx

another link

this is the DMS-IV description.

kinda sounds like a catch-all diagnosis used until something else can be diagnosed as causing the problem. *shrug* whatever. some psychological disorders are really, really strange and hard to believe.
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are you surprised?

pharmaceutical companies pay big bucks for people to create diagnoses in order for them to be put in the dsm-iv... it gives big pharma the green light to make a pill for whatever bullshit diagnosis was just created in order to make more money. it's a brilliant money-making scheme and the dsm-iv and the fda are all a part of it.
 
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
It's kinda like fibromyalgia, ADHD, and autism. Yes there are people that really have these diseases, but most people were probably given the dx by a doctor who wanted to either get rid of the patient or bill a higher price for the encounter.
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uh... wow. the ignorance is strong in this post.
 
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
It's kinda like fibromyalgia, ADHD, and autism. Yes there are people that really have these diseases, but most people were probably given the dx by a doctor who wanted to either get rid of the patient or bill a higher price for the encounter.
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Yep, just like AIDS and cancer. Fucking dipshit freeloaders. From my vast experience with the subject, I would estimate that only 1 in 10 million of those diagnoised with the diseases actually have them. The rest are just passed off by lazy doctors that are desperately trying to defraud insurance companies.
 
Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
It's kinda like fibromyalgia, ADHD, and autism. Yes there are people that really have these diseases, but most people were probably given the dx by a doctor who wanted to either get rid of the patient or bill a higher price for the encounter.
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Yep, just like AIDS and cancer. Fucking dipshit freeloaders. From my vast experience with the subject, I would estimate that only 1 in 10 million of those diagnoised with the diseases actually have them. The rest are just passed off by lazy doctors that are desperately trying to defraud insurance companies.
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i wouldnt blame it on doctors. but many use it as a excuse and try to get SSDI. its something that they can claim to have yet there is no way to really disprove it.
 
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
It's kinda like fibromyalgia, ADHD, and autism. Yes there are people that really have these diseases, but most people were probably given the dx by a doctor who wanted to either get rid of the patient or bill a higher price for the encounter.
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uh... wow. the ignorance is strong in this post.
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You're a chiropractor. Your medical opinion is less than worthless.
 
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
It's kinda like fibromyalgia, ADHD, and autism. Yes there are people that really have these diseases, but most people were probably given the dx by a doctor who wanted to either get rid of the patient or bill a higher price for the encounter.
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uh... wow. the ignorance is strong in this post.
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You're a chiropractor. Your medical opinion is less than worthless.
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oh, great... you again... :roll:

i don't lie and perpetuate propaganda about your line of work, so stop doing it to mine... now, pick up your broom and dustpan and get back to work.
 
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Heh, i bet I'm the only one in here with an M.D. The rest of you are idiots 🙂
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i didn't say you were ignorant. i said your post was.
 
Thought I had it for a while, turned out I was severely depressed. Virtually identical symptoms. From what I read at the time there is one conclusive test for it, but it involves rotating you upside down slowly while measuring your blood pressure or something. Really weird.
 
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Heh, i bet I'm the only one in here with an M.D. The rest of you are idiots 🙂
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i didn't say you were ignorant. i said your post was.
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Once again, chiropractor. You're a scam artist and your opinion is worth nothing.
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i'm a scam artist? haha how the fuck would you know?

get the fuck back to work...

edit: you know what? you're right. i'm a scam artist. i scammed the pain right out of this lady's leg whenever she came in and had sciatica. i scammed my girlfriend's headaches away with my hands. i really scammed the hell out of the guy who i treated with an excruciating central disc extrusion... he couldn't even walk into the clinic he was in so much pain, but i scammed that wheelchair out from under him and made him walk under his own power back to the car. oh, and the guy who came into the clinic on friday was scammed by me whenever i shot x-rays and found a collapsed vertebra at l1 and told him to see his medical doctor. nerves don't control anything in the body. they're just there for fun. they serve no purpose, whatsoever... and whenever they are compressed, blood vessels are still able to pump the normal amounts of blood (carrying sodium, potassium, water, glucose, etc.) to the nerves, which allows for full and proper function.

oh, and since you know so much about me and how i treat my patients, maybe you can go ahead and tear up my business plan for the bank i want to get the loan from in order to open my own multi-disciplinary clinics with a medical doctor, physical therapist, and chiropractor... just tear it up, because that would actually be GOOD for patients and all i want to do is scam people out of pain.

fucking idiot...

i'm sorry your mom ran off with the chiropractor and you've been bitter ever since, but don't sit there and talk shit about me or what i do when you don't know the first thing about either.
 
Originally posted by: dennilfloss
One of the main things you go through for a diagnosis is to eliminate other illnesses with overlapping symptoms. However, there are other ailments that like to tag along with M.E., IBS for example. The illness is formally recognized in Ontario and I am declared permanently disabled by it, hence I get a provincial disability pension as I am no longer able to work.
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i've seen your pics.
you're just fat and lazy. exercise more and i bet it will go away.
 
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