Christianity has become big business...!

[shoRunner]

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Yet i read an article in Sundays local paper that was disgusted with them releasing the Da Vinci Code movie because it was just for greed.

the da vinci code will not profit any christian organization that i'm aware of

 

[Trevelyan]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Fundamentalists sure do know how to pick and choose what to take literally though.

I think its more the liberal Christianity that is prevalent in the country that is guilty of that. Things like homosexuality, creation, women's rights, etc. which are clearly spoken about in the Bible is ignored in preference to more PC views.

Of course, conversative Christianity is guilty of, like you say, getting caught up in building bigger church buildings, and nicer media equipment and building their ministry than they are actually making a difference in the world for Jesus.

But there still are those who sell all their possessions and spend all their money helping the poor... I know personally know many people who do that, and despite the hypocricy that is so prevalent, I know there are some who genuinely are selfless. That's why almost all of my tithe/offering goes to missionaries I know personally.

 

[KoopaTroopa]

Originally posted by: GeneValgene
"When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"" John 2:13-16

basically, people who were tryign to profit from religion got pwned by jesus

gandhi:

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Of course, conversative Christianity is guilty of, like you say, getting caught up in building bigger church buildings, and nicer media equipment and building their ministry than they are actually making a difference in the world for Jesus.

Links? Proof? I'm sorry but the whole point of their building their minsitry and getting better cameras and such is to reach more people!

 

[KoopaTroopa]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Of course, conversative Christianity is guilty of, like you say, getting caught up in building bigger church buildings, and nicer media equipment and building their ministry than they are actually making a difference in the world for Jesus.

Links? Proof? I'm sorry but the whole point of their building their minsitry and getting better cameras and such is to reach more people!

ideally...but you really think all of them have such pure motives? it's all pride man.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Fundamentalists sure do know how to pick and choose what to take literally though.

So I have said many many times. A literal interpretation of the Bible is similar to interpreting exactly to the letter of the law. It is simply an excuse for violating the spirit of it.

 

[nissan720]

Well I would say many people do it to help others but their are some who do it for their own reasons (money, fame, ect.). Most people have good intentions but the few how don't really make the rest look bad.

 

[ValkyrieofHouston]

Originally posted by: KoopaTroopa

Originally posted by: GeneValgene
"When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"" John 2:13-16

basically, people who were tryign to profit from religion got pwned by jesus

gandhi:

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

Wow, Gandhi said that? He was so on the money with that comment...

Personally I would rather not follow any religion... but believe in practicing some sort of spirtualism.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston

Originally posted by: KoopaTroopa

Originally posted by: GeneValgene
"When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"" John 2:13-16

basically, people who were tryign to profit from religion got pwned by jesus

gandhi:

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

Wow, Gandhi said that? He was so on the money with that comment...

Personally I would rather not follow any religion... but believe in practicing some sort of spirtualism.

Ya hippie! 😛

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: KoopaTroopa
ideally...but you really think all of them have such pure motives? it's all pride man.

There are always a few bad examples of any point, but I would say the majority of these large Christian churches are building and growing and spending lots of money to reach people and get the message out about Jesus and what He has done.

Unfortunately, the way the world works is that when someone in position of authority in the Christian church does something wrong, he is put in the spotlight and then many think that what he did wrong represents all christians when in fact, all it represents is his own infallability. It does not justify what some pastors do that is wrong, and they are supposed to live a life that reflects Jesus Christ, but unfortunately most people and many on this board are quick to judge all of Christianity based on a few peoples mistakes.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: DougK62
Isn't the Catholic church the richest organization in the world? I thought I read that somewhere...

What you heard is far from the truth of the matter!!

Just look at individual Catholic churches.....they are hardly rich!!

But if you take into account how priceless most of the art work and other items are in alot of the European Catholic churches then I would agree somewhat with that statementand the catholic being rich!!
But poor in liquid assetts!

 

[GeneValgene]

Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston

Originally posted by: KoopaTroopa

Originally posted by: GeneValgene
"When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"" John 2:13-16

basically, people who were tryign to profit from religion got pwned by jesus

gandhi:

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

Wow, Gandhi said that? He was so on the money with that comment...

Personally I would rather not follow any religion... but believe in practicing some sort of spirtualism.

gandhi quote

 

[Dunbar]

I know for a fact the high up people fly around in private jets.

 

[shoRunner]

Originally posted by: Dunbar
I know for a fact the high up people fly around in private jets.

high up like the president of christianity....

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHoustonunlike your ministers and preachers in methodist and baptist religions that are like the Jim and Tammy Bakers of the world that live in wealthy mansions and drive expensive cars.... am I wrong here? Anyone a practicing Catholic that can explain this?

Funny, my Methodist minister drives an old Chevy and lives in the small parsonage at my hometown church.

Over-generalize much?

ZV

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Dunbar
I know for a fact the high up people fly around in private jets.

And your point is? Do you have any idea how much time it takes to fly to another country commercially to hold an evangelistic campaign? These private jets help them fly to other countries and be back in time to preach on Sunday morning. I see nothing wrong with that. If you are suggesting some use their minstry jets for private vacations and such, well if they did that is completely illegal and should be dealt with.

 

[Dunbar]

Originally posted by: shoRunner

Originally posted by: Dunbar
I know for a fact the high up people fly around in private jets.

high up like the president of christianity....

No more like the people in charge of the large congregations, or those that take large amounts of money in donations. Go to the big Christian convention every year and you'd be surprised how many private jets you'll see at the local airport.

 

[GeneValgene]

Originally posted by: Dunbar

Originally posted by: shoRunner

Originally posted by: Dunbar
I know for a fact the high up people fly around in private jets.

high up like the president of christianity....

No more like the people in charge of the large congregations, or those that take large amounts of money in donations. Go to the big Christian convention every year and you'd be surprised how many private jets you'll see at the local airport.

makes baby jesus cry 🙁

 

[ValkyrieofHouston]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHoustonunlike your ministers and preachers in methodist and baptist religions that are like the Jim and Tammy Bakers of the world that live in wealthy mansions and drive expensive cars.... am I wrong here? Anyone a practicing Catholic that can explain this?

Funny, my Methodist minister drives an old Chevy and lives in the small parsonage at my hometown church.

Over-generalize much?

ZV

He does now, wait until his congregation gets a little bigger and their is more money coming through the church... give it time!

 

[Kenazo]

Christapitalism, FTW!

 

[Fenixgoon]

catholic = christian

christian != catholic

 

[Kenazo]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
catholic = christian

christian != catholic

Majority of protestants would disagree with
Catholic = Christian.

I'm just curious, what is the Catholic view of

Protestant = Christian?

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Kenazo

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
catholic = christian

christian != catholic

Majority of protestants would disagree with
Catholic = Christian.

I'm just curious, what is the Catholic view of

Protestant = Christian?

i said catholic = christian

christian != catholic

christian is a general term for anyone who believes in christ. when people say christian, though, it genereally refers to protestants/evangelists/etc, as opposed to catholic (which is a particular type of christianity, just like the above)

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHoustonunlike your ministers and preachers in methodist and baptist religions that are like the Jim and Tammy Bakers of the world that live in wealthy mansions and drive expensive cars.... am I wrong here? Anyone a practicing Catholic that can explain this?

Funny, my Methodist minister drives an old Chevy and lives in the small parsonage at my hometown church.

Over-generalize much?

ZV

He does now, wait until his congregation gets a little bigger and their is more money coming through the church... give it time!

Hasn't happened in the 187 year history of my hometown church. Appreciate your prejudice though.
ZV

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: GeneValgene
"When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"" John 2:13-16

basically, people who were tryign to profit from religion got pwned by jesus

Yeah, well I'd say those people got the last laugh. What do you think Jesus would say if he took a tour of the Vatican?