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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Steeple is finally correct in something: Violent fanaticism, in any case, on any side, needs to be destroyed.

That said, for every 1 whacko Christian, there are probably 50,000 fanatical Muslims. I would be REALLY interested in reading an accurate number in that regard. Does anyone know of a source that may have attempted to calculate a rough estimate of the number of fanatical Muslims in the entire world? if so, please link to it.


And if you invaded the south it would be the same crap from christians, luckily wealth tends to chill out fanatics, same deal, same types of people and ideaology different god.

You are so wrong man. But I guess you do think outside the box unlike most people so that is one positive thing I can say.
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: 1prophet


So atheists are free from hatred and therefore superior?


Care to show me where christians are being terrorized?

You ever hear of China? Seriously, please educate yourself if you think that Christians are not persecuted worldwide. I personally know people who have been detained for holding Bible studies in China.

I recall a quote earlier where you mocked someone saying they worship a "fairy in the sky." And yet, you believe that matter is eternal and self-exisiting, even though all logic and science attest to that being impossible.

You just can't accept that God created you. It takes too much to admit that, on your own, you are no better than anyone else, and you need God to get out of your situation.

It's easy to say you don't see God, when you're holding your hands over your eyes. It's easy to be arrogant and prideful and laugh in God's face. But don't think for a second that you can do that for any reason beyond him giving you that choice, because he loves you enough to give you free will. Free to love him, or free to hate him. We all make that choice, and people like you and I are evident to that.

It is hard to be humble, to take a narrow path. Your mockery and dedication to anti-God hatred will never change the fact that God created you, and will hold you accountable for your life. Frightening? Perhaps, but your emotions and objections are inconsequential in light of this fact.

You might have what you think is a good reason to hate God. Maybe you lost someone you loved, or someone hurt you, but this is not God's fault. He wants more than anything to help heal these hurts, and he gives you opportunity after opportunity to turn to him. The Bible says that God is patient, wishing for no one to come to destruction... and I know for a fact that is true. Please, don't waste these opportunities, or I'm afraid, in time you will regret it.

Feel free to PM me if you want to talk more.



:roll: This is exactly the type of wingnut recruitment that turns people off the xtrians so much. Assimilate, resistance is futile. You people are like leeches looking for someone down and out to cling on to to brainwash.

Thanks but if I was interested in worshipping old fairytales there are far more intersting folklore and gods out there.
 

LittleNemoNES

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Steeplerot, Why hate on a group? Aren't crazy people crazy people? There are good and bad people. You are answering to comments that many christians do not make -- that all muslims are terrorists. I gurantee you that 99 out of 100 christians will condemn that abortion clinic bomber. Do you NOT understand that point? Or are you looking to find a place to unleash your poo load.
 

1prophet

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: 1prophet


So atheists are free from hatred and therefore superior?


Care to show me where christians are being terrorized?

You ever hear of China? Seriously, please educate yourself if you think that Christians are not persecuted worldwide. I personally know people who have been detained for holding Bible studies in China.

I recall a quote earlier where you mocked someone saying they worship a "fairy in the sky." And yet, you believe that matter is eternal and self-exisiting, even though all logic and science attest to that being impossible.

You just can't accept that God created you. It takes too much to admit that, on your own, you are no better than anyone else, and you need God to get out of your situation.

It's easy to say you don't see God, when you're holding your hands over your eyes. It's easy to be arrogant and prideful and laugh in God's face. But don't think for a second that you can do that for any reason beyond him giving you that choice, because he loves you enough to give you free will. Free to love him, or free to hate him. We all make that choice, and people like you and I are evident to that.

It is hard to be humble, to take a narrow path. Your mockery and dedication to anti-God hatred will never change the fact that God created you, and will hold you accountable for your life. Frightening? Perhaps, but your emotions and objections are inconsequential in light of this fact.

You might have what you think is a good reason to hate God. Maybe you lost someone you loved, or someone hurt you, but this is not God's fault. He wants more than anything to help heal these hurts, and he gives you opportunity after opportunity to turn to him. The Bible says that God is patient, wishing for no one to come to destruction... and I know for a fact that is true. Please, don't waste these opportunities, or I'm afraid, in time you will regret it.

Feel free to PM me if you want to talk more.



:roll: This is exactly the type of wingnut recruitment that turns people off the xtrians so much. Assimilate, resistance is futile. You people are like leeches looking for someone down and out to cling on to to brainwash.

Thanks but if I was interested in worshipping old fairytales there are far more intersting folklore and gods out there.

Perhaps it would be better in this day and age for these xtrians as you call them to follow these words of Christ.

Matthew 7

6Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
 

Kerouactivist

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Jul 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: 1prophet


So atheists are free from hatred and therefore superior?


Care to show me where christians are being terrorized?

You ever hear of China? Seriously, please educate yourself if you think that Christians are not persecuted worldwide. I personally know people who have been detained for holding Bible studies in China.

I recall a quote earlier where you mocked someone saying they worship a "fairy in the sky." And yet, you believe that matter is eternal and self-exisiting, even though all logic and science attest to that being impossible.

You just can't accept that God created you. It takes too much to admit that, on your own, you are no better than anyone else, and you need God to get out of your situation.

It's easy to say you don't see God, when you're holding your hands over your eyes. It's easy to be arrogant and prideful and laugh in God's face. But don't think for a second that you can do that for any reason beyond him giving you that choice, because he loves you enough to give you free will. Free to love him, or free to hate him. We all make that choice, and people like you and I are evident to that.

It is hard to be humble, to take a narrow path. Your mockery and dedication to anti-God hatred will never change the fact that God created you, and will hold you accountable for your life. Frightening? Perhaps, but your emotions and objections are inconsequential in light of this fact.

You might have what you think is a good reason to hate God. Maybe you lost someone you loved, or someone hurt you, but this is not God's fault. He wants more than anything to help heal these hurts, and he gives you opportunity after opportunity to turn to him. The Bible says that God is patient, wishing for no one to come to destruction... and I know for a fact that is true. Please, don't waste these opportunities, or I'm afraid, in time you will regret it.

Feel free to PM me if you want to talk more.

Ca plane pour moi moi moi moi moi
HAHA you know how people talk about beer goggles....how about religous goggles...
If this type of talk is allowed here than it must be allowed to tell this guy he is a self-righteous nut bag.....enjoy the dirt.....
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: 1prophet

6Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
A book is a book, this one is badly translated, a mess of contridictions, if they followed their book they would explode, they would be going in so many directions at once.
 

1prophet

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Originally posted by: bthorny
Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: 1prophet


So atheists are free from hatred and therefore superior?


Care to show me where christians are being terrorized?

You ever hear of China? Seriously, please educate yourself if you think that Christians are not persecuted worldwide. I personally know people who have been detained for holding Bible studies in China.

I recall a quote earlier where you mocked someone saying they worship a "fairy in the sky." And yet, you believe that matter is eternal and self-exisiting, even though all logic and science attest to that being impossible.

You just can't accept that God created you. It takes too much to admit that, on your own, you are no better than anyone else, and you need God to get out of your situation.

It's easy to say you don't see God, when you're holding your hands over your eyes. It's easy to be arrogant and prideful and laugh in God's face. But don't think for a second that you can do that for any reason beyond him giving you that choice, because he loves you enough to give you free will. Free to love him, or free to hate him. We all make that choice, and people like you and I are evident to that.

It is hard to be humble, to take a narrow path. Your mockery and dedication to anti-God hatred will never change the fact that God created you, and will hold you accountable for your life. Frightening? Perhaps, but your emotions and objections are inconsequential in light of this fact.

You might have what you think is a good reason to hate God. Maybe you lost someone you loved, or someone hurt you, but this is not God's fault. He wants more than anything to help heal these hurts, and he gives you opportunity after opportunity to turn to him. The Bible says that God is patient, wishing for no one to come to destruction... and I know for a fact that is true. Please, don't waste these opportunities, or I'm afraid, in time you will regret it.

Feel free to PM me if you want to talk more.

Ca plane pour moi moi moi moi moi
HAHA you know how people talk about beer goggles....how about religous goggles...
If this type of talk is allowed here than it must be allowed to tell this guy he is a self-righteous nut bag.....enjoy the dirt.....

I believe in Freedom of Speech as long as it is acceptable to me.
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: 1prophet


I believe in Freedom of Speech as long as it is acceptable to me.

We are not allowed to hawk "free ipods" either. Same difference what this guy was trying to do.
 

1prophet

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: 1prophet

6Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
A book is a book, this one is badly translated, a mess of contridictions, if they followed their book they would explode, they would be going in so many directions at once.

To the wise, strong and intelligent of the world it most certainly is.

1 Corinthians 1

17For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

18For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

19For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

20Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

21For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

22For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

24But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

25Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

26For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

27But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

28And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

29That no flesh should glory in his presence.
 

1prophet

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: 1prophet


I believe in Freedom of Speech as long as it is acceptable to me.

We are not allowed to hawk "free ipods" either. Same difference what this guy was trying to do.

Did he violate forum rules, if so should he not be reported?
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: 1prophet

Grow up and welcome to the 21st, quotes from some old book of fiction have about as much relevancy then the toothfairy nowdays.


Do you believe in santa claus still too? Then good for you, but dont expect it to make any difference then a dr seuss book to anyone else.
 

1prophet

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: 1prophet

Grow up and welcome to the 21st, quotes from some old book of fiction have about as much relevancy then the toothfairy nowdays.

That is why we should do as we please, for as long as we are smart enough to get away with it or strong enough to overcome the weaker among us what difference does it make since we are all going to be in the grave one day and he who dies with the most toys or conquests wins.;)
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: 1prophet
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: 1prophet

Grow up and welcome to the 21st, quotes from some old book of fiction have about as much relevancy then the toothfairy nowdays.

That is why we should do as we please, for as long as we are smart enough to get away with it or strong enough to overcome the weaker among us what difference does it make since we are all going to be in the grave one day and he who dies with the most toys or conquests wins.;)


Funny, you just described organized religions followers to a T.
 

1prophet

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: 1prophet
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: 1prophet

Grow up and welcome to the 21st, quotes from some old book of fiction have about as much relevancy then the toothfairy nowdays.

That is why we should do as we please, for as long as we are smart enough to get away with it or strong enough to overcome the weaker among us what difference does it make since we are all going to be in the grave one day and he who dies with the most toys or conquests wins.;)


Funny, you just described organized religions followers to a T.

No, I just described human selfishness to a T, of which organized religion is one of the many tools used to propogate it.
 

straightalker

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Some people just take any opportunity to bash christianity whenever the word "christian" is associated with some psychopath or irrational vigilante.

"Christian terrorist." Such a person does not even exist.

A true christian is someone who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit and subject to that powerful guidance and correction.

The way to combat abortion is to properly describe exactly what it is. Films are very powerful as are photos of that macabre procedure. Have you ever seen some? I have. They make me cringe in complete horror at the activities which the typical abortion mill practices on a daily basis. We can't link to these websites here because they are just sooo incredibly powerful and graphic.

Should abortion mills be bombed? Like i say. That's indescriminant madness.

Some Supreme Court judges say abortion is ok. They should be held accountable as accomplices in the murders of 50 million children. Same for everyone involved in this ongoing heinous human hellish holocaust. There's a proper course to take towards justice. It should involve every decent human being left on the Planet. Isolated individuals acting out their rage against it is counter productive.

As is turning this debate into an opportunity to brazenly attack christianity.
 

Kerouactivist

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Originally posted by: straightalker
Some people just take any opportunity to bash christianity whenever the word "christian" is associated with some psychopath or irrational vigilante.

"Christian terrorist." Such a person does not even exist.

A true christian is someone who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit and subject to that powerful guidance and correction.

The way to combat abortion is to properly describe exactly what it is. Films are very powerful as are photos of that macabre procedure. Have you ever seen some? I have. They make me cringe in complete horror at the activities which the typical abortion mill practices on a daily basis. We can't link to these websites here because they are just sooo incredibly powerful and graphic.

Should abortion mills be bombed? Like i say. That's indescriminant madness.

Some Supreme Court judges say abortion is ok. They should be held accountable as accomplices in the murders of 50 million children. Same for everyone involved in this ongoing heinous human hellish holocaust. There's a proper course to take towards justice. It should involve every decent human being left on the Planet. Isolated individuals acting out their rage against it is counter productive.

As is turning this debate into an opportunity to brazenly attack christianity.

Wow listen to yourself
 

straightalker

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"To be hopeful in bad times is not just foolishly romantic. It is based on the fact that human history is a history not only of cruelty, but also of compassion, sacrifice, courage, kindness? And if we do act, in however small a way, we don?t have to wait for some grand utopian future. The future is an infinite succession of presents, and to live now as we think human beings should live, in defiance of all that is bad around us, is itself a marvelous victory". Howard Zinn
What is your basis for what is "good" or "bad"?

That does seem to also be part of the core question to ask a "terrorist".
 

Kerouactivist

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Originally posted by: straightalker
"To be hopeful in bad times is not just foolishly romantic. It is based on the fact that human history is a history not only of cruelty, but also of compassion, sacrifice, courage, kindness? And if we do act, in however small a way, we don?t have to wait for some grand utopian future. The future is an infinite succession of presents, and to live now as we think human beings should live, in defiance of all that is bad around us, is itself a marvelous victory". Howard Zinn
What is your basis for what is "good" or "bad"?

That does seem to also be part of the core question to ask a "terrorist".

I have no idea what your asking?




 

Kerouactivist

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Originally posted by: straightalker
A simple question dodge.
Please just elaborate on your original question....

I could write a thesis on what is good or bad that is way to general so if you want a response then ask a question that is reasonable or get to whatever point your trying to make because I'm not going to write a thesis here....if that means you win in your mind then good for you puppy gets his treat...

and mind you we are talking about my quote.....
 

runninkyle17

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I would have to agree that his question is a little hard to interpret. However, every human being has inside them an innate sense of what is good and bad (this excludes certain people that may have brain injuries or diseases that cause them to lose their understanding of good and evil).

I do not believe that people would disagree that if humans completely gave into their desires without taking into account any morals, things would turn out very bad for society. People are creatures habit as well as creatures of impulses. If we find one way that works to our advantage then we continue in that direction; however, if our habits are not allowing us to have the success in a certain situation we usually react out of impulse. Success in these situations can be measured in many different ways and also can be applied to any type of situation.

Also, be aware that the impulse I am talking about is the actual thought that is formed out of desperation because our normal "habits" are not having an advantageous effect. So if you look at it this way, the impulse to go blow up an abortion clinic may occur to more people than we would like to admit. But, the people that actually follow through on that impulse are much more rare. This causes many problems in society.

Not only because there are people that are truly horrified by the act that has been committed, but also because there are those people that have for a brief instant thought about blowing up an abortion clinic. Because they are faced with the fact that someone has actually done it, they realize that they were not alone in thinking about blowing up a clinic. This realization hits very close to home and is one of the main reasons people have such a strong reaction to events like 9/11 and abortion clinic bombings.
 

delas52

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Originally posted by: ciba
Christians terrorists are condemned by other christians.

Muslim terrorists are ...well...


Yea hate on the palestinians who have been in diaspora for many years. They got screwed over because of the world's feelings for the prosecution of the jews which wasn't their (the palestinians) fault in any way, shape or form. I am just saying most palestinian terrorism has nothing to do with islam (they just want a homeland), whereas something like this obviously is connected to christianity.
 

Red Dawn

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Not all Christians are terorists just like not all Muslims are terrorists. To label normal Christians and Muslims with their Fund A Mental Case Counterparts is doing a great disservice to them.