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- Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
True, real Conservatives want less government interference in ones life where the Fundies want more.Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
However, I do believe that the "Fundie Right" has less relevance/sway as of late which is not such a bad thing.
One could also look at it as Fundies want different gov't intereferences than liberals, not necessarily "more". Most "fundies" I know really only want the libs to stop taking God out of things and also wish to not have liberal ideals forced on society. But in general you are mostly correct.
I as a Conservative want less gov't interference and so along with that I expect less "God" by the gov't - but not a prevention of God within gov't.
I appreciate a Fundy not wanting liberal ideals "forced" on them, such as mandatory healthcare or similar gov't programs, but the basic liberal ideals are about "forcing" CHOICE on people, not taking it away.
Oh contrair Sir. Abortion? The libs want, and have federal funding of it. That's makingthose who disagree with have to fund it. Libs doen't stop at at making sure it's not illegal. Then they take away your parental rights, your kid doesn't even need you to informed if they get a gov provided aboratiopn etc.
Same with premarital sex. Gotta teach it in schools and use taxpayer funds for free condums etc.
Abortion or childbirth? Sex or abstinence? To pray or not to pray? Right to terminate your life if you suffer from a painful terminal illness or to hold on until even a machine can't support you? I'm tired of seeing the Sciavo thing misrepresented. I don't every recall it being a religious thing. The husband was portrayed as shady, possibbly having a hand in her condition. And he wanted the insurance money. Her parents wanted to support her. Many people felt bad for the parents. Particularly those of us with children of our own. To read a book or ignore it.
It's seems it's the Fundy's who want to remove the choices and force their views on me and the country. I think you've got it backwards No abortion ever. No sex before marriage. Mandatory prayer time set aside in schools. No medically assisted suicide. Suicide is a catholic no-no. Not a Protestant one. Look, if the Libs wanna outlaw teh death penalty cuz the method causes pain, how can you support the same thing for someone under different circumstances? Makes no sense. Banning "evil" books.
Of course libs aren't entirely consistent, who is? I doubt the uber left would mind seeing all guns taken away from the people, not a choice on whether or not to own a gun. But in general, the freedom to make choices is the ideal. As long as it's the choice the libs like. As we've seen time and again.
Fern
You're so off on everything here I can't bother with it. Have a good weekend.