Christian right intensifies attacks on Obama

[jpeyton]

I find Fundamentalist Christians every bit as irrelevant and laughable as the Islamic Jihadists.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I find Fundamentalist Christians every bit as irrelevant and laughable as the Islamic Jihadists.

Yup... One intolerant religion is as bad as the next. Its sad that these freaks have had our govt for the past 8 years... I blame Bill Clinton's penis. =)

 

[Lemon law]

The radical right wing charges itself up with its hatred of Islam, gays, gasp gay marriage, democrats, scientists, and everyone who is not in their camp. In return they promise to protect us from terrorists while keeping the USA the arsenal of democracy. Its a mantra the GOP has ridden fairly successfully since 1994.

But its now old and hackneyed, and worse yet, its a message that has failed to get Ossama Bin Laden, has resulted in the USA losing its allies while emboldening our enemies, its resulted in us wrecking our military,
being stuck in two bungled quagmires, drowning us in debt, while we have wrecked our own economy and perhaps the banking system of the world.

And now these same fundamentalist Christians keep pushing the same buttons they pushed so successfully before, and still do not understand that the American people are not buying their garbage anymore.
They still do not realize that they are now irrelevant failures due to their own failures.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

I think one of Obama's main visions, should he assume Presidency, is to do away with this notion of "liberal" being a dirty word. Make no mistake, he is a classic liberal in every sense of the word and the policies he wants to implement are left-leaning in nature.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: sandorski
"Do not bear false witness"

Weener's Bible only has 8 commandments (so he can avoid that and coveting his neighbor's wife).

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo

Originally posted by: sandorski
"Do not bear false witness"

Weener's Bible only has 8 commandments (so he can avoid that and coveting his neighbor's wife).

hehe

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
I think one of Obama's main visions, should he assume Presidency, is to do away with this notion of "liberal" being a dirty word. Make no mistake, he is a classic liberal in every sense of the word and the policies he wants to implement are left-leaning in nature.

You really dont know your candidates policies, now do you?

 

[miketheidiot]

there is an ad running locally about obama wanting his grandkids aborted.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
there is an ad running locally about obama wanting his grandkids aborted.

I heard he wants to slip RU486 into kid's candy.

 

[ericlp]

Still waiting for the "REAL christian's" to show up, kinda like the "REAL GIRLS" video's.

I guess if the world see's some christians doing something wrong, well, those weren't the "REAL" ones. hahaha Damn, Show me the real one then.

What a friggen twist on it all. I'll still classify them as whacked that is until the "real" ones show up and I haven't seen one yet... go figure!

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: winnar111
Kruschev was delighted that John Kennedy won and tried to take advantage of him. Al Qaeda will do the same.

Your ignorance of the political history of your own country is showing. Kennedy ran to the RIGHT of Nixon on national defense, decrying the "missile gap" with Russia and the somewhat obscure position of the Eisenhower admin NOT to go to war with mainland China if they attacked and occupied the small islands of Quemoy and Matsu.

If you have even ONE credible link that Khrushchev was delighted that Kennedy won, post it or admit your massive FAIL.

Perhaps even you remember Kennedy's inaugural speech, sport?

We dare not forget today that we are the heirs of that first revolution. Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans?born in this century, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, proud of our ancient heritage?and unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of those human rights to which this Nation has always been committed, and to which we are committed today at home and around the world.

Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

It was before your time, little buddy, when both Democrats and Republicans alike were ALL fierce cold warriors.

I really can't stand prattling ignoramuses like you who don't even know relatively recent American history, and so confidently spout unsubstantiated bullcrap.

Read this book, page 484:

http://books.google.com/books?...=4&ct=result#PPA484,M1

'In fact, he disliked Nixon intensely, regarding him as a McCarthyite cold warrior who had shown his true colors during his 1959 Soviet visit. Therefore, although he had met Kennedy only once, during their brief 1959 Senate encounter during which he told Kennedy he looked too young to be a senator, Kruschchev decided to 'vote' Democratic'

Kruschchev was so delighted by Kennedy's victory on November 4. Sergei remembered, that he positively "beamed with satisfaction. He jokingly referred to Kennedy's triump as a gift he had received for the anniversary of the revolution."'

Let's see how many times Obama talks about the Al Qaeda presence in Iraq in his inaugural speech.

Ever read any of the correspondence between Khrushchev and the Cubans during the Cuban Missile Crisis? He sure as hell wasn't beaming with satisfaction in regards to Kennedy then. Khrushchev and the rest of the Russian leadership took the huge loss of face in the world community because they regarded Kennedy as utterly ready to trade city for city in a nuclear war if they stood firm on setting up Cuba with missiles.

Kennedy actually frightened them - that's not my opinion, that's fact. And I suppose given the fact that Kennedy was apparently on speed and zero sleep for almost the entire crisis, he was probably on the mark with those fears.

 

[buck]

:thumbsup:
This thread delivers!

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Terrorist strikes on four American cities. Russia rolling into Eastern Europe. Israel hit by a nuclear bomb. Gay marriage in every state. The end of the Boy Scouts.

All are plausible scenarios if Democrat Barack Obama is elected president, according to a new addition to the campaign conversation called "Letter from 2012 in Obama's America," produced by the conservative Christian group Focus on the Family Action.

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The best thing I believe that would come out of an Obama victory is that these Moron's influence would be greatly compromised which IMO would be good for America. Maybe calling these people Christians is actually doing a disservice to real Christians , you know those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus.

I'd say they are carrying the torch for Al-Quaeda and their cohorts, keeping the fear alive.

Christian fundies are definently determined to help their Muslim brothers, that much is clear.

 

[Madwand1]

I wouldn't go as far as to agree with JohnOfSheffield's rhetoric, but in principle, I think he is correct. There is not a great deal of difference between radical Muslims and the radical right who associate their religion with the movement, betray and twist the principles at the core of the religion and denigrate those who don't follow it exactly their religion in exactly their way or don't agree with their political positions.

Everyone here should be able to see the problem; to be able to see the difference between a moderate Christian and the radical right claiming the label Christian as a part of a political movement.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Madwand1
I wouldn't go as far as to agree with JohnOfSheffield's rhetoric, but in principle, I think he is correct. There is not a great deal of difference between radical Muslims and the radical right who associate their religion with the movement, betray and twist the principles at the core of the religion and denigrate those who don't follow it exactly their religion in exactly their way or don't agree with their political positions.

Everyone here should be able to see the problem; to be able to see the difference between a moderate Christian and the radical right claiming the label Christian as a part of a political movement.

Well, for someone who disagrees and agrees you sure can't seem to even come close to my point which should be easy enough for anyone to understand, really.

The religious right inadvertly support exactly the fear and opression of the people that the terrorists were aiming for, that is my point, not the likeness of religious groups.