I don't get involved in car threads.
What I am talking about is the Asian-elitism you find here. It's an undercurrent of "you wouldn't understand <insert topic> because you aren't Asian".
germany has been paying money to survivors and their families since the end of ww2, the precidence has been set
VirtualLarry
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Somebody had to say it in this thread though... you know it's true. Normally, I'm a horribly sarcastic bastard, and I was thinking a similar thought - for only a brief split-second. Then I realized how horrible that must be, because that's no "photochop". My condolances to the family, that's really horrible. Perhaps now America will wake up, and realize the dangers and the criminal actions that our chemical and pharmecutical industry players have caused, and be willing to hold them accountable for their actions. My God... that poor kid.
The sad thing is, I have a gut feeling, that as more human genetic manupulations and experiments happen, we will be seeing much more of that sort of thing, and not less. I am afraid that our collective concious intervention and manipulation of the human species itself, is what will eventually wipe us off of the face of the planet - for good.
VirtualLarry
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Yeah, and after WWII, we chipped in for "reparations", and to help re-build. Once the war is over, we should be civil about things. I think it's racism, actually, that largely prevents the US from doing things for the Vietnamese, whereas we had no problem helping out the European nations that we helped destroy.
VirtualLarry
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My grandfather on my father's side, was involved with the military over there, and he was exposed to Agent Orange.. he spent the last of his days suffering from Parkenson's, where your body whithers away and you can't control it any more - even though your mind retains its faculties. Essentially, you become a mind-prisoner, trapped inside your own body. What a tough way to go. So I really don't think that you can call it a "win" for the US side either, for using that evil, toxic, stuff. Why didn't we just spray liquid plutonium instead? It would have had nearly the same sorts of effects on the human population. (Although I can't say how well of a de-foliant it is, I have no idea.)
I believe we should help the vietnamese recover. The less defective children, the more sweatshops that can be built.
SarcasticDwarf
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And you think the Vietnamese are going to want us over there helping out? The only thing they would accept is large sums of cash. hmm, I wonder....
I actually thought of the Coneheads
poor kid...BUT it's not like the Vietnamese were humanitarians...
poor kid...BUT it's not like the Vietnamese were humanitarians...
The Vietnamese are very cool people, imo, they are very friendly to people from other countries, including people from the US.. not much bitterness there.
We are all mass-murderers.Do you know how many civilians we killed in WWII. From the firebombing of Dresden to the firebombing of Japan and Hiroshima and Nagasaki.Did anyone in your family fight in WWII.Did anyone in your family fight in Vietnam...if so they committed the same acts my father did...perhaps not on the same scale.Do you pay taxes.If so your money is going to kill people in Iraq and to litter their beautiful country with DU.
Hey PHokus you can shove the "republican" retort .As your boy John Kerry admitted to the same things and he was running for president....
Phoenix86
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Both are making light of a bad situation, no? Again, I'm sure the cop didn't think it was funny. I see the obvious differences in the situation. It's kinda hypocritical to make fun of one person's pain, and defend anothers.
I don't think Phokus was advocating cops shooting themselves any more than NFS4 was advocating Agent Orage's use in Vietnam. Yet somehow NSF4 is "insensitive," "arrogant," and the all mighty low blow "republican (baby killer)."
Phokus,
Pot, meet kettle.
We did'nt participate in the rebuilding of Europe to be "Civil". We did it for National Security Reasons.Mainly that of limiting Soviet Influence. I feel sad for the educational system of the country when people dont understand the political climate following proabaly the most important event of this century.
TuxDave
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I'm sorry that someone said that to you but you also have to realize that there will be cases of 'culture specific' incidents. Some countries have guys who are very touchy feely. I think that's just plain weird but that's the enviroment that the culture supports and yes, I probably wouldn't understand unless I spent some time to be there. Yes, it's unfair to automatically assume people won't understand but it's also unreasonable to say you understand all cultures (unless you're a very VERY worldly person)
this happened in vietnam WHEN? some of these kids are babies. 'nam happened decades ago. i'm really confused as to why these families would remain in a highly polluted area and produce offspring that have horrible defects when they had maybe 30 years to get out of there and prevent that from happening.
VirtualLarry
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Well, that too, we were afraid of Soviet political influence growing in that area, if they "rebuilt" it instead of us. Same thing with copious amounts of american aid to various little countries around the world, esp. south-american republics, just so that they wouldn't "turn communist" on us, like their neighbors. So you're right, and I didn't think of that reason at first, I guess I wanted to believe that our "moral leaders" weren't so coldly politically calculating and actually had a slightly humanitarian side to them, but the odds of that are probably slim. Just like when BillG donates billions to Cancer research, he just wants to keep his name out there, and doesn't actually give a crap about any cancer sufferers, I guess. Thanks for setting me straight on that. (Although, I do have a hard time believing that the US invaded Iraq to "liberate the people". Fat chance.) Sorry, this is devolving to P&N here.
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