Chris Matthews Chews up Larry Thurlow on Hardball

[chess9]

351Cleveland:

I don't like Matthews' habit of interrupting everyone, BUT this allegation is so outrageous and insuperable, his incredulity and anger were justified. First of all, no one has any information that such an event occurred. It would be idle speculation and would fly in the face of the extant facts.

This would be like me saying I KNOW Bush was addicted to cocaine.

Facts are really ugly things aren't they?


-Robert

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: chess9
351Cleveland:

I don't like Matthews' habit of interrupting everyone, BUT this allegation is so outrageous and insuperable, his incredulity and anger were justified. First of all, no one has any information that such an event occurred. It would be idle speculation and would fly in the face of the extant facts.

This would be like me saying I KNOW Bush was addicted to cocaine.

Facts are really ugly things aren't they?


-Robert

I agree completely, having just now watched the interview. Thurlow seems, rather nakedly, to be a guy with a major chip on his shoulder re. Sen Kerry, and Matthews did a pretty good job of exposing that IMO. Thurlow looks even worse after today's revelations re. Rood.

 

[MrNutz]

Wow... Its amazing how liberals can completely isolate themselves from anything but their own personal opinions when there is only the few shreds of bad journalism that support them. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH and stop being such media tools. For once in your life, be rational and make an attempt to understand both sides of a story. Your lives may become a little distorted... don't worry, you're just experiencing reality.

And no, my point in the above statement had nothing to do with Kerry's stories, true or false... or the Swift boat veterans, fact or lie.... I just want you guys to make an honest attempt to understand issues before you say "I love X, so X must be right!"

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: MrNutz
Wow... Its amazing how liberals can completely isolate themselves from anything but their own personal opinions when there is only the few shreds of bad journalism that support them. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH and stop being such media tools. For once in your life, be rational and make an attempt to understand both sides of a story. Your lives may become a little distorted... don't worry, you're just experiencing reality.

And no, my point in the above statement had nothing to do with Kerry's stories, true or false... or the Swift boat veterans, fact or lie.... I just want you guys to make an honest attempt to understand issues before you say "I love X, so X must be right!"

Seems to me, the "liberals" are the only ones presenting any concrete proof of anything or at least concrete evidence of anything within threads about this subject. It's the neocons that are participating in the ugliness and immature acts within this subject.

 

[MrNutz]

In reference to the above post...

Originally posted by: bossanov
The interview clearly shows that Thurlow and company has manufactured his version of events leading up to Kerry's bronze medal. These guys have proven themselves to be "Swiftboat Veterans for Lies"

The main point that was clearly shown by this interview was that Chris Matthews did a horrible job preparing himself for the interview and Michelle was tricked into doing it. Why do I say that.... Well, they originally told Michelle she would be on to talk about her new, unrelated book. During the interview Matthews twisted what Michelle said, because he didn't read the book, and he constantly interupted her before she could give an explanation as to why she made her comment.

Originally posted by: DanJ
Transcript:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5765243/

This one is a simple factual statement with no political ties. Everyone who posted should of taken a look at this or the interview.

Originally posted by: Drift3r
and there is absolutely no evidence that Kerry wrote the report himself. Of course there is prior evidence of Bush using the same style of smear tactics of employing third parties against his political opponents. Just like he did with John McCain to attack his war experience, his adopted daughter and his wife's bout with cancer. What's to say this is nothing but the same old smear tactic from Bush.Co??? If war records are to become an issue then Bush is now fair game for his own record or lack of during the whole of that time period.

This statement is also an opinion... where is the evidence that says Kerry didn't write the report? And yes, Bush's military records where news headlines for months... but it seems like someone is getting their arm twisted when you see a story on Kerry's questionable military records in the mainstream media. Shouldn't this be as big a story... its got twice the loopholes and doubts from both sides.

Originally posted by: Drift3r
Then you must not like Bill O'Rielly's show either because they both have the same style of "interviewing".

I thought you guys hated the O'Reilly show because of his style of interviewing... and now your giving Matthews praise for using it. Also, O'Reilly does his homework before doing an interview. Chris Matthews obviously didn't.

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: villager
My mistake. I meant George Eliot wrote the citation for the bronze star for both Kerry and Eliot and the citation reports says there was intense enemy gun fire. This was just discussed on the John Oberman with someone from factcheck.org. Eliots citiation for Thurlow is here.

It is correct that Eliot wrote the citation for kerry and thurlow, however it still does not answer who wrote the action report on which the citations were based. Thrulow claims he did not. Once again this should be easy enough to prove.

Ok... this post digresses for a while on this subject...

Originally posted by: DefRef

Originally posted by: dannybin1742

She is very cute but she appears to be another wannabe Ann Coulter type of lady.

yeah but ann coulter is a right wing dumba$$ that couldn't write a book to save her life, with actual legitemate citations in it

Um, you really don't know much, do you? You just spout whatever your Democratic master tell you. Ann Coulter is a best-selling author who's books are like 20% footnotes and bibliography. I guess you haven't actually looked at one, have you? You know, they have these places called "bookstores" and "libraries" that allow you to look thru these things.
As for you guys cheering that Matthews "beat down" the Michelle Malkin, I'm sure you'll love to read her account of the ambush she walked into believing that she'd be plugging her book.
Matthews is a bully, but as long as he's YOUR bully, it's OK. Bill O'Reilly sucks, but Matthews is OK? Ho-kay...
P.S. I'm not a Bush voter and think O'Reilly is a rude bully too.

Interesting post... Check Malkin's Blog for some behind the set info.

Ok, I'm not going to repost everything here... I've already put to much... Most of this post seems to be uninformed, biased statements. Or Matthews Love You notes. And way too many BUAHAHAHAHAH!!! posts. :disgust:

I'll finish with this one... And I don't think hes one of your "liberal" brothers:

Originally posted by: DefRef
Anyone else noticing that the Kerry minions NEVER offer countering proof, preferring to only sneering that no one knows nothing and tossing the ad hominem buzzwords like "neocon" like a grenade that automatically dismisses the argument they can't/won't take on?

FACT: Kerry's been lying about being in Cambodia for Xmas 1968.

FACT: Nixon wasn't President then, so Kerry's been lying about that part of his little tale.

FACT: Damn near everyone who served with Kerry hates him except for his "Band of Brothers" - can't he be original? We should be thankful he doesn't call them his "Sopranos" - who probably expect cushy government gigs in exchange for their being used as props. Kerry certainly made a lot of enemies in his 4 months in country, didn't he? (Of course, many probably started hating him after he called them "war criminals".)

FACT: Kerry hasn't signed a SF-180 form that would release the info that could clear his name.

 

[Gaard]

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I think Thurlow is second from left.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: MrNutz

Originally posted by: Drift3r
and there is absolutely no evidence that Kerry wrote the report himself. Of course there is prior evidence of Bush using the same style of smear tactics of employing third parties against his political opponents. Just like he did with John McCain to attack his war experience, his adopted daughter and his wife's bout with cancer. What's to say this is nothing but the same old smear tactic from Bush.Co??? If war records are to become an issue then Bush is now fair game for his own record or lack of during the whole of that time period.

This statement is also an opinion... where is the evidence that says Kerry didn't write the report?

Oh boy. And where's the proof the WMDs don't exist? Where's the proof that God doesn't exist?

Typical Bush-God fanboi response. Diversion by answering questions with questions. Esp. unanswerable questions.

I'll finish with this one... And I don't think hes one of your "liberal" brothers:

Originally posted by: DefRef
Anyone else noticing that the Kerry minions NEVER offer countering proof, preferring to only sneering that no one knows nothing and tossing the ad hominem buzzwords like "neocon" like a grenade that automatically dismisses the argument they can't/won't take on?

FACT: Kerry's been lying about being in Cambodia for Xmas 1968.
Where's the proof Kerry's been lying?

FACT: Nixon wasn't President then, so Kerry's been lying about that part of his little tale.
Mistaken or misspoken but not lying.

FACT: Damn near everyone who served with Kerry hates him except for his "Band of Brothers" - can't he be original? We should be thankful he doesn't call them his "Sopranos" - who probably expect cushy government gigs in exchange for their being used as props. Kerry certainly made a lot of enemies in his 4 months in country, didn't he? (Of course, many probably started hating him after he called them "war criminals".)
Pure opinion. And, those claimed to "hate" Kerry didn't serve with him. They served in Vietnam at the same time.

FACT: Kerry hasn't signed a SF-180 form that would release the info that could clear his name.
Kerry's records are all over his website. Where are Thurlow's records? Why won't Thurlow release his records? *He's* the one making the claims. What's he hiding?

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: chess9
351Cleveland:

I don't like Matthews' habit of interrupting everyone, BUT this allegation is so outrageous and insuperable, his incredulity and anger were justified. First of all, no one has any information that such an event occurred. It would be idle speculation and would fly in the face of the extant facts.

This would be like me saying I KNOW Bush was addicted to cocaine.

Facts are really ugly things aren't they?


-Robert

Awww.. dont say that!! It is SO entertaining!

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

If anyone bothered to actually watch the show, he made a very important point. He did not want these swift boaters or Malkin to make ludicrous claims that had no factual basis whatsoever. He said flat out, if you have no evidence to back it up I will not allow you to say it on my show. It's his show, and I think he was fully justified in treating Malkin the way she was treated.

I really have no idea where Malkin gets her political ideas to be honest. It seems like she's a rich white conservative male trapped in an asian body.

 

[Vadatajs]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
If anyone bothered to actually watch the show, he made a very important point. He did not want these swift boaters or Malkin to make ludicrous claims that had no factual basis whatsoever. He said flat out, if you have no evidence to back it up I will not allow you to say it on my show. It's his show, and I think he was fully justified in treating Malkin the way she was treated.

I really have no idea where Malkin gets her political ideas to be honest. It seems like she's a rich white conservative male trapped in an asian body.

I thought asians were supposed to be smart; there goes that stereotype.