Chris Matthews Chews up Larry Thurlow on Hardball

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The interview clearly shows that Thurlow and company has manufactured his version of events leading up to Kerry's bronze medal. These guys have proven themselves to be "Swiftboat Veterans for Lies"

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Keep watching. What he does to Michelle Malkin later in the show is even better.
 

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Originally posted by: Painman
Keep watching. What he does to Michelle Malkin later in the show is even better.

Hardcore take down on by Matthews on Malkin. Maybe Matthews decided he needs to go left for his ratings. Pretty impressive job by him.
 

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The whole show was A+. Chris was really on tonight. We'll have to look at the transcript tomorrow.
 

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Originally posted by: Todd33
The whole show was A+. Chris was really on tonight. We'll have to look at the transcript tomorrow.

Thurlow is definately swinging in the wind. Now he is claiming Kerry set up both Bronze stars. Guess he thinks Kerry kicked Rasmussen off the boat intentionally. Too bad George Elliot, his fellow swift boot lie, wrote the after action report. BTW, John Oberman called Malkin a fool and seems to be piling on the damage Matthews did.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: villager
Originally posted by: Todd33
The whole show was A+. Chris was really on tonight. We'll have to look at the transcript tomorrow.

Thurlow is definately swinging in the wind. Now he is claiming Kerry set up both Bronze stars. Guess he thinks Kerry kicked Rasmussen off the boat intentionally. Too bad George Elliot, his fellow swift boot lie, wrote the after action report. BTW, John Oberman called Malkin a fool and seems to be piling on the damage Matthews did.

Elliot wrote the after action report? Has this report been posted?
 

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Matthews is quickly growing on me. He gave Thurlow a 'swift' and painful asskicking tonight.

Who is he interviewing next? Can't wait to watch him own the next liar.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
Thurlow is a freaking nutcase.

How did thurlow write the after action report, when elliot wrote it?


It does appear it is yet unknown who wrote the report.
 

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and there is absolutely no evidence that Kerry wrote the report himself. Of course there is prior evidence of Bush using the same style of smear tactics of employing third parties against his political opponents. Just like he did with John McCain to attack his war experience, his adopted daughter and his wife's bout with cancer. What's to say this is nothing but the same old smear tactic from Bush.Co??? If war records are to become an issue then Bush is now fair game for his own record or lack of during the whole of that time period.
 

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
and there is absolutely no evidence that Kerry wrote the report himself. Of course there is prior evidence of Bush using the same style of smear tactics of employing third parties against his political opponents. Just like he did with John McCain to attack his war experience, his adopted daughter and his wife's bout with cancer. What's to say this is nothing but the same old smear tactic from Bush.Co??? If war records are to become an issue then Bush is now fair game for his own record or lack of during the whole of that time period.

So who wrote the after action report?
 

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Don't get me wrong. I think the SBVFT are misguided and that Larry Thurlow is a lying POS axe grinder, but I just read the Hardball transcript, and it reinforces my dislike of this kind of "interviewing", where the host has a couple of pre-ordained rhetorical points and controls the agenda, continuously ramming them home, and not really giving his guest any fair chance to make their points whatsoever.

I don't like it when they do it to people I agree with, and I don't like it all the same when they do it to people I don't agree with.

It just ain't my cup of tea.
 

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Drift3r
and there is absolutely no evidence that Kerry wrote the report himself. Of course there is prior evidence of Bush using the same style of smear tactics of employing third parties against his political opponents. Just like he did with John McCain to attack his war experience, his adopted daughter and his wife's bout with cancer. What's to say this is nothing but the same old smear tactic from Bush.Co??? If war records are to become an issue then Bush is now fair game for his own record or lack of during the whole of that time period.

So who wrote the after action report?

Is there even a report to begin with or is that just another claim made up from Thurlow ?
 

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Don't get me wrong. I think the SBVFT are misguided and that Larry Thurlow is a lying POS axe grinder, but I just read the Hardball transcript, and it reinforces my dislike of this kind of "interviewing", where the host has a couple of pre-ordained rhetorical points and controls the agenda, continuously ramming them home, and not really giving his guest any fair chance to make their points whatsoever.

I don't like it when they do it to people I agree with, and I don't like it all the same when they do it to people I don't agree with.

It just ain't my cup of tea.


Then you must not like Bill O'Rielly's show either because they both have the same style of "interviewing".
 

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Thurlow is a freaking nutcase.

How did thurlow write the after action report, when elliot wrote it?


It does appear it is yet unknown who wrote the report.

My mistake. I meant George Eliot wrote the citation for the bronze star for both Kerry and Eliot and the citation reports says there was intense enemy gun fire. This was just discussed on the John Oberman with someone from factcheck.org. Eliots citiation for Thurlow is here.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Drift3r
and there is absolutely no evidence that Kerry wrote the report himself. Of course there is prior evidence of Bush using the same style of smear tactics of employing third parties against his political opponents. Just like he did with John McCain to attack his war experience, his adopted daughter and his wife's bout with cancer. What's to say this is nothing but the same old smear tactic from Bush.Co??? If war records are to become an issue then Bush is now fair game for his own record or lack of during the whole of that time period.

So who wrote the after action report?

Is there even a report to begin with or is that just another claim made up from Thurlow ?

If there was action, I am under the impression there would have been a report. It should be easy enough to find out who made the report and who requested the citations.

Once again the Kerry campaign is doing a poor job silencing the swift vets. Todays news only cause more questions.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: villager
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Thurlow is a freaking nutcase.

How did thurlow write the after action report, when elliot wrote it?


It does appear it is yet unknown who wrote the report.

My mistake. I meant George Eliot wrote the citation for the bronze star for both Kerry and Eliot and the citation reports says there was intense enemy gun fire. This was just discussed on the John Oberman with someone from factcheck.org. Eliots citiation for Thurlow is here.

It is correct that Eliot wrote the citation for kerry and thurlow, however it still does not answer who wrote the action report on which the citations were based. Thrulow claims he did not. Once again this should be easy enough to prove.
 

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Thurlow is a freaking nutcase.

How did thurlow write the after action report, when elliot wrote it?


It does appear it is yet unknown who wrote the report.

Thurlow is saying that Kerry sneaked in his "own" report but where is that report ?? Then again why isn't Thurlow returning his Bronze Star ? Aren't Bronze Star's award for those who have encountered the enemy and preformed admirably and heroically ?
 

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: Perknose
Don't get me wrong. I think the SBVFT are misguided and that Larry Thurlow is a lying POS axe grinder, but I just read the Hardball transcript, and it reinforces my dislike of this kind of "interviewing", where the host has a couple of pre-ordained rhetorical points and controls the agenda, continuously ramming them home, and not really giving his guest any fair chance to make their points whatsoever.

I don't like it when they do it to people I agree with, and I don't like it all the same when they do it to people I don't agree with.

It just ain't my cup of tea.


Then you must not like Bill O'Rielly's show either because they both have the same style of "interviewing".
My God! I CAN"T STAND Bill O'Reilly, the officious little prick!
 

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Thurlow is a freaking nutcase.

How did thurlow write the after action report, when elliot wrote it?


It does appear it is yet unknown who wrote the report.

Thurlow is saying that Kerry sneaked in his "own" report but where is that report ?? Then again why isn't Thurlow returning his Bronze Star ? Aren't Bronze Star's award for those who have encountered the enemy and preformed admirably and heroically ?

Kerry's spot report is here. But it is not the after action report. Washington Post says whatever is the basis for Thurlow's bronze star could not come from Kerry since his boat was not close to Thurlow and could not witness it. The post reporters think the after action report was probably a mix of the different commanders, but it is strange it has not shown up yet.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: villager
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Thurlow is a freaking nutcase.

How did thurlow write the after action report, when elliot wrote it?


It does appear it is yet unknown who wrote the report.

Thurlow is saying that Kerry sneaked in his "own" report but where is that report ?? Then again why isn't Thurlow returning his Bronze Star ? Aren't Bronze Star's award for those who have encountered the enemy and preformed admirably and heroically ?

Kerry's spot report is here. But it is not the after action report. Washington Post says whatever is the basis for Thurlow's bronze star could not come from Kerry since his boat was not close to Thurlow and could not witness it. The post reporters think the after action report was probably a mix of the different commanders, but it is strange it has not shown up yet.

If the after action report was authored by anyone of the swiftvets, their movement would be completely dead.

YOur link is dead.
 

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Originally posted by: villager
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Thurlow is a freaking nutcase.

How did thurlow write the after action report, when elliot wrote it?


It does appear it is yet unknown who wrote the report.

Thurlow is saying that Kerry sneaked in his "own" report but where is that report ?? Then again why isn't Thurlow returning his Bronze Star ? Aren't Bronze Star's award for those who have encountered the enemy and preformed admirably and heroically ?

Kerry's spot report is here. But it is not the after action report. Washington Post says whatever is the basis for Thurlow's bronze star could not come from Kerry since his boat was not close to Thurlow and could not witness it. The post reporters think the after action report was probably a mix of the different commanders, but it is strange it has not shown up yet.

Here is Thurlows Bronze Star report issued by the Navy which sites there was enemy fire which he now claims was not happening in todays show.

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Thurlow%20Citation.pdf