Choosing which OS for web hosting? Unix or NT

[gredodenda]

I'm new to this web hosting and I have to decide the operating system, but I don't know why choosing Unix or NT makes different. please someone explain to me.
Thank you

PS. My web hosting is for the church and it will be used to: forums, chat, database, FTP, pictures

 

[bigvince]

Short answer,


unix if you know how to use it

NT if you don't

 

[gredodenda]

I won't be hosting a server. It will be a paid web hosting... Is it matter whether I know Unix or not even I'm paying for hosting??

Unix or NT???
Thanks

 

[Pepsi90919]

unix!

 

[yakko]

UNIX.

 

unix

 

[nEoTeChMaN]

Unix forever!!

Say you want to run a forum where people register and it automatically send them a mail with the username/password in it..that is sendmail. It function better under Unix.

 

[StageLeft]

NT

A lot of die-hard Unix people around here...the fact of the matter is NT still dominates in the IT field, and for that reason I think its worth learning to work with it and not against it. It is fair to say there are a lot more jobs using MS-related software than Unix-related. I've heard all the pros and cons to each, but I work in IT (when I say this I don't mean to intend it to imply that "I konw what I"m talking about and you people don't", merely to show where i'm coming from) and i know a _lot_ of people who are also working in this field and not a single one of the people I know work on anything but an NT/Win2k platform. Now Unix may be "better" in many ways, but its kind of like the Apple vs PC debate, ie, Apple can be better all it likes (its not though hehe), but until it has a wide range of support it will continue to be beaten by PCs.

NT is inhertenly easier to work with. Perhaps if you're an all-star network admin it isn't, but you've just admitted that you are not. So if you want to run some dynamic web content, be it with ASP, SQL, or access or whatever NT is what you need instead of something that much less people in the real world actually use. Unix/linux whatever is catching up but has a long way to go. I won't say NT is as fast as Unix in a web hosting environment but if you really want to get some big stuff going on your webserver its going to take a real guru to do it in unix compared to what you need to know to do it on nt.

Neotech How do you mean better in unix? Its easy as heck under .asp!

gredodenda See, if you pay for an NT server there are countless books on ASP, tutorials on them, and whatever else you want to do with an NT server versus, say, cgi or PnP for unix.

 

[KarsinTheHutt]

RedHat Linux

 

<< the fact of the matter is NT still dominates in the IT field >>


The workstation field, not the server field. Not by a long shot.



<< and i know a _lot_ of people who are also working in this field and not a single one of the people I know work on anything but an NT/Win2k platform >>


What's the Brian Hook tagline? &quot;Understand you, your brother and his college roomate are not the community.&quot;



<< Unix/linux whatever is catching up but has a long way to go >>


Unix has ASP/SQL/JSP/XSP/PHP/etc...

 

[convex]

unix is catching up? are you confused here or something? anyway, NT, UNIX, with the site you want to run it doesn't really make a differnce.. you'll probably end up using a free outsourced message board and probably listbot.

 

[convex]

werd
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[NikPreviousAcct]

the only reason NT dominates anything is because of Microsoft's marketing and because of the fact that it's harder to learn a better OS (Unix).

If you're planning on arguing, I'll shut you down now:
I've worked at Intel. I've run around their IT rooms. I've talked with their help line. I've been (and currently am) a network administrator for a school.

NT sucks ass. Unix kicks NT to the curb anytime.

 

[StageLeft]

dwell

See, when I mentioned that I worked in the IT field I also added when I say this I don't mean to intend it to imply that &quot;I konw what I&quot;m talking about and you people don't&quot;, merely to show where i'm coming from

and you return with &quot;Understand you, your brother and his college roomate are not the community.&quot; And, now you're just getting childish and offensive.

Anyway, my brother is actually one of those people, recently given the position of lead developer at a major and well-known university, now leading a half million dollar project and no mention of Unix will be made anywhere.

The workstation field, not the server field. Not by a long shot.

Ok fine, but how many jobs are in workstation vs. server? I don't have the figures but its a pretty big ratio...Unix looks great on a resume but if you're looking for work and happen to have only NT-based software on your resume vs. Unix-based you are going to find many more jobs available to you.

FFMCobalt

You're missing the point. The point is as you readily admit ...NT dominates.... It doesn't matter why it does (marketing, ease of use, etc.) Just that it DOES

I have no intention right now of arguing that NT is a superior server environment to Unix from a technical and performance standpoint; its quite clear that Unix is better.

What I am saying is that learning NT can very well be a better thing to do than Unix if you plan on later getting employed in the area.

How about you try this: Next time you are in a job interview and the company relies partly on the MS visual studio suite and they host with IIS. Why don't you tell them how much better Unix is and NT sucks and all that. Do you think you'll get the job?

As I said earlier everybody I know in IT is working purely with MS products. I don't know any server admins and I bet they love their Unix, but if you have to choose a platform to master - and you don't plan on personally running a server - well NT is the platform to learn.

Regardless of which is better, NT is the one more used, and thus learning it will give you better chances of securing employment.

On top of all this Unix is harder to learn, and if a newbie really wants to get a decent website going in short-order NT will allow that done quicker. For THAT it is BETTER for this individual.

 

[nEoTeChMaN]

For example, in my new job at CPCC (technical college) we administrate 15,000+ computers using Unix servers. If you try to administrate it under NT server or even windows 2000 server..it'll crash hard.

On the workstation side, NT 4.0 or windows 2000 pro rulez!

 

[lowtech1]

It doesn't matter which OS to go for as long as they could guarantee up time, good services, and best bang/buck.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

why would you run a server OS on a workstation??

maybe I misunderstood...

 

[convex]

where'd this entire idea of NT dominating anything come up at? BTW, we run ultra's here at work and I'm kind of partial. On the other hand, NT kicks lots of ass, the problem with NT si finding people that are worth half a shlt to admin for you. Most of the Sr. NT Admins are jackasses that just got MCSE and are just learning to setup IIS..

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

<< Most of the Sr. NT Admins are jackasses >>



*ouch*
And, yes, I can be a jackass. It's kind of warrented when a studend calls me with a tech question and says &quot;I want to print, but I can't.&quot;
I say &quot;okay, show me exactly what you did so I can see where we need help.&quot;
student: &quot;okay, I clicked the print button, but the computer says there's no printer.&quot;
I check, and sure enough the printer that I installed that morning are gone.
me: &quot;What did you do??&quot;
student: &quot;Well, the printer is next to the computer. I found a printer in the computer (talking about the start menu). We don't need two, so I got rid of the one on the computer.&quot;

Strange thing is that at Intel I had adults asking me the same kinds of rediculous questions. It's hard to be nice when the people using the computers don't deserve to have them.

 

[convex]

I was trying to make a derogatory remark about the skill level of most &quot;sr.&quot; NT admins, let me have at least that.

 

[lowtech1]

FFMCobalt,

Implement mandatory user profiles, and hide/lock them icons/paths to prevent the kind of problem that you have.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

lowtech

very good. We've had to do that for more than a few.

 

[DABANSHEE]

Ah, this is the 'Off topics' forum, you or should I say your thread doesn't belong here, as it is 'On Topic'.

There are such forums as 'Operating Systems' &amp; 'Networking', that are actually designed for such threads as these.

Maybe in a few months, in which time your thread would be all green &amp; mouldy &amp; definitly 'Off', you could then bring it back here.

 

[Soybomb]

But you see NT doesn't dominate at all. Apache is the dominant webserver, and that doesn't tend to run in an NT environment. Anyway to to first poster I'd prefer unix myself since I feel it makes a much better webserver, but that can still all depend on the admins!

 

[br0wn]

NT dominates ?
Am I the only one reading convex reply ?

From that site, Apache (unix) 61.66 %
Windows NT = 19.62 %

oh...I guess 19.62 % of market share is dominate now